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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3308 posts, RR: 13
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 9166 times:
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Hey, guys.

I was flying GVA-JFK on Saturday March 10, and we had an aborted approach. We were on approach to land on 22L, and I was wondering which JFK frequency I should search on liveatc.net in order to hear that exchange between the aircraft and the controller. The pilot told us we aborted because of traffic, but we were still 2000 feet up or so and 6 nautical miles from the airport.

Thanks for your help!

TIS


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User currently offlinePILOTALLEN From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 656 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9148 times:

well if it was while approaching the airport I would try the approach freqs, but if you were in final or established in the approach then do tower, usually (at least when i have aborted) the tower hands me off to the dep/app controller so you might want to try both anyways. hope that helps./ -Josh


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21693 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9136 times:

Try both the tower and the ROBER frequencies (I think ROBER is 125.70, but don't hold me to that).

-Mir



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User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9117 times:

2000' and 6 miles out should have been tower, I would think.


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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3308 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9098 times:
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Thanks for the advice guys. There are, however, two Tower feeds on Liveatc, and I don't want to spend all my time listening to feeds, as I've got a ton of work to do. Does one of the tower frequencies control two runways and the other control the other two?

TIS



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3308 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9092 times:
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Nevermind. I found it, on ROBER. We were told to cancel approach because the flight in front of us (EOS flight from England) was below the speed he was supposed to be and we were going to come too close. So he cleared us for 3000 and heading 200, and then brought us back around for 22L. We were 6 miles out, at 2200 feet, and final approach speed when he told us to abort.

TIS



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User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9085 times:

While we're on the topic of LiveATC here, does anyone know how to listen to a single radio frequency on LiveATC.net? The scanning of about 5 different frequencies gets a little annoying and it would be great to just listen to one.


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21693 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9082 times:

Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 6):
While we're on the topic of LiveATC here, does anyone know how to listen to a single radio frequency on LiveATC.net? The scanning of about 5 different frequencies gets a little annoying and it would be great to just listen to one.

The scanning is a compromise, since you have a limited number of recievers and lots of frequencies. The only thing I can tell you is to look for a feed that only monitors one frequency.

-Mir



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User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9078 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 7):
The scanning is a compromise, since you have a limited number of receivers and lots of frequencies. The only thing I can tell you is to look for a feed that only monitors one frequency.

OK, thanks. But what about this JFK Ground recording in this thread? It sounds like it's only on one frequency, as there's no scanning involved. And it's hosted on LiveATC.net as well, which doesn't have a separate "ground only" receiver. Any ideas?



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21693 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 9047 times:

Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 8):
But what about this JFK Ground recording in this thread? It sounds like it's only on one frequency, as there's no scanning involved. And it's hosted on LiveATC.net as well, which doesn't have a separate "ground only" receiver. Any ideas?

In the LiveATC.net forums, most clips that are posted (i.e. ones in reference to a particular event) will be edited to take out the dead air and irrelevant transmissions (which would include different frequencies). You'll notice that this clip was only about 10 minutes long, one-third the length of the regular archive tapes. So I'd guess that it was edited, though I couldn't say for sure.

You will notice that about two and a half minutes in somebody calls clearance, and there are perceptible instances where things get a little cut off.

-Mir



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User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 9045 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 9):
In the LiveATC.net forums, most clips that are posted (i.e. ones in reference to a particular event) will be edited to take out the dead air and irrelevant transmissions (which would include different frequencies). You'll notice that this clip was only about 10 minutes long, one-third the length of the regular archive tapes. So I'd guess that it was edited, though I couldn't say for sure.

You will notice that about two and a half minutes in somebody calls clearance, and there are perceptible instances where things get a little cut off.

Ah, thank you. I didn't know people edited those. I'll have to check out that forum.



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