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User currently offlineCogrady84 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 4 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 10526 times:

Hello  

I've just completed my registration to this forum, this is officially my first post (wave).

I've been an aviation enthusiast for probably going on 15 years now, I use flight sims and visit airports as often as possible!

One thing I have always wanted to get into is using "scanners" to listen to live ATC comms, I have visited Heathrow several times now and often there are people sat around listening in, it facinates me and I often listed in on liveatc.net.

I have a planned trip to London coming up at the end of the month and would LOVE to have an appropriate device which will allow me to do this whilst im there! I'm staying in a hotel across from 09 for 2 nights. As I am in the UK I dont think I have the Radio Shack option, although somebody may be able to correct me on this... Could I have some advice on exactly what I should be looking for? What radio frequencies I should be using etc? I'm TOTALLY new to this!

Is this legal practice? Is there anything I shouldn't do?

I appreciate the help!

Thanks!

[Edited 2007-05-08 01:57:07]

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User currently offlinePAHS200 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 10521 times:

Quoting Cogrady84 (Thread starter):
Is this legal practice

as I understand it it is OK to listen for your enjoyment but you CAN NOT share it like "liveatc.net"

I heard that on the liveatc.net forum.

as for the scanner part since i don't live in the UK i don't know where you can buy one you can try radioshack.com

Michael


User currently offlineWestJetYQQ From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2987 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 10519 times:

It should be legal to listen to it without sharing it.

You can listen to any of the airport frequencies. It's just a matter of looking up what they are. If you have a British flight supplement, it could be of use to you.

Quoting Cogrady84 (Thread starter):
Is there anything I shouldn't do?

Radio in and interfere with the radio communications!  duck 

Welcome to A.net, and enjoy the rest of your enthusiast carreer!

Cheers
Carson



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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9523 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10486 times:

Quoting PAHS200 (Reply 1):
it is OK to listen for your enjoyment but you CAN NOT share it



Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 2):
It should be legal to listen to it without sharing it.

In the UK, it is technically illegal to listen to broadcasts that aren't meant for you but apparently the Home Office takes a "relaxed view" provided you don't do something silly with it, like, as suggested, sharing it on the internet.

I bought my AOR AR8200 Mk II from http://www.javiation.co.uk/ - they have quite a wide range of scanners and accessories.

Quoting Cogrady84 (Thread starter):
What radio frequencies I should be using etc?

There are lists on the internet but you could start here: http://www.javiation.co.uk/vu.html . You could paste that list into a spreadsheet and sort by location.

(no, I have no connection with Javiation  Smile )


User currently offlineFlyboyseven From Canada, joined Feb 2007, 904 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10481 times:

Congrats on your first post. I have wondered where to get a scanner myself, but now i know. thanks guys.


As long as the number of take-offs equals the number of landings...you're doing fine.
User currently offlineCogrady84 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 4 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 10462 times:

Thanks for the info guys... although looking at the site, i still have NO idea what I should actually be getting? I would like something fairly compact, handheld. Range would need to be fairly good i assume. and be able to monitor frequencies at LHR and MME (Teesside/Durham Tees Valley).

User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9523 posts, RR: 42
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 10451 times:

Quoting Cogrady84 (Reply 5):
i still have NO idea what I should actually be getting?

That's tricky. What's your budget? How many frequencies do you need to store? For £70 (at Javiation), you can get the Maycom 108 which seems to be great value for money.

For £400 you can get something that stores 1000 frequencies in 20 banks, so you can store all the frequencies you're likely to need anywhere and only scan the banks that apply at your current location (you don't want to be scanning 1000 memory channels when only 50 apply). You can also connect it to your PC and use control software and save your frequencies to Excel, etc.  Smile

Quoting Cogrady84 (Reply 5):
Range would need to be fairly good i assume. and be able to monitor frequencies at LHR and MME (Teesside/Durham Tees Valley).

Depending on your location when listening to MME, you may only be able to hear transmissions from aircraft in the air (perhaps only 50 ft or so and higher) and not the tower itself... but it depends. The "official" rule is line of sight but it's usually a bit better than that. From your location, you'll also be able to hear one side of some conversations with with London Centre and/or Scottish Centre by aircraft en route nearby, e.g. north Atlantic traffic, London-Glasgow/Edinburgh traffic.

From a hotel across the runway at LHR, you'll be able to hear both sides of the conversations, assuming the windows have no metallic content - I've been blocked by hotel windows before.  Sad


User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2587 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 10443 times:

Quoting Cogrady84 (Reply 5):

Hi Craig,

Nice to hear you are from the MME area. I was brought up in the north east and lived near MME and NCL airports at different times. I worked at MME for a few years before moving to MAN and later to AUH.

Do you get to MME very often? I haven't been using it so much since EY started flying AUH-MAN - it is often easier now to fly there and get the train to Darlington than wait around LHR for a flight to MME.

When you get your scanner if you tune to 131.575, that is the company frequency used by bmi and Aviance at several UK stations including MME. I'm sure someone else can give you ATC frequencies for MME.

Let me know what the goings on are at MME if possible - it is always nice to hear about the more unusual visitors.

Regards,

Ian.


User currently offlineLHRman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 398 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10380 times:

Heathrow Frequencies:

118.500 N Tower (Primary Tower)
118.700 S Tower
121.900 N Ground (Primary Ground)
121.700 S Ground
121.975 Delivery

119.725 Heathrow N Director (Primary Director)
134.975 Heathrow S Director
120.400 Heathrow Final Director

Some London Control Frequencies of interest.

119.775 / 121.275 (NW stuff)
123.900 / 118.825 (NE stuff)
120.525 / 120.175 (SE stuff)
134.125 / 133.175 (SW stuff)

If you search around you can get more but this will definatly get you started.

Thanks..
Dave P
CAP



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User currently onlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12202 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 10365 times:
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Here in the US, a cheap handheld scanner can be had for about $100. Should be good enough for ATC, cops, fire, ambulance.


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User currently offlineCogrady84 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 4 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 10314 times:

Hey again,

I'm looking at buying the UNIDEN UBC30XLT SCANNER, which is here:

http://www.thunderpole.co.uk/uniden_bc_30.htm

Is this a good buy?

Thanks!


User currently onlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12202 posts, RR: 35
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 10266 times:
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Quoting Cogrady84 (Reply 10):
Hey again,

I'm looking at buying the UNIDEN UBC30XLT SCANNER, which is here:

http://www.thunderpole.co.uk/uniden_bc_30.htm

Is this a good buy?

Thanks!

Looks decent enough, and it is fairly cheap. You can also check Ebay



911, where is your emergency?
User currently offlineCogrady84 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 4 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10231 times:

I actually bought that one from Ebay, £36 w/ postage!  Smile

Should be here tomorrow!


User currently offlinePJFlysFast From United States of America, joined May 2006, 463 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 10216 times:

As long as you dont key the mic you will be fine! Welcome to A.net!

User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9523 posts, RR: 42
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 10209 times:

Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 13):
As long as you dont key the mic you will be fine!

Good luck trying that with a £36 scanner.  Smile


User currently offlineFighterPilot From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1370 posts, RR: 23
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 10206 times:

eBay is a good idea. That's where I got mine. It's a mint scanner, it covers almost everything. http://www.uniden.com/products/produ...cfm?product=BC246T&filter=Handheld

Cal  airplane 



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