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Cloud Cover In FS9?  
User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10756 times:

Im after a bit of advise please  Smile

I have FS9 + Flight 1's Flight Envirment. But i have noticed something very strange. (Or may be its normal ???)

I will set my weather to however i want it to show. Lets say for example thunderstorms. Now when im at ground level everything is fine. The cloud , rain and lightning is all there. Visability is also low inline with the weather... As i take off everything is still fine until i get to about 7000-10000 ft. Then all of a sudden all the clouds go and im left with clear skies,perfect visability and a perfect view of the ground below. !!!!

The same goes for landing. I will have perfect skies (with some clouds) but as i decend into an airport all of a sudden the weather will change to the correct weather for that area. It very unrealistic to say the least. Its noting like in the real world where large areas are covered in cloud as you cruise at 30000 ft... Just perfect skies until i decend and then BANG !!!

I have tried all the setting ie cloud percentage / detailed clouds etc etc etc but nothing seems to have any effect. (BTW i have it set at detailed clouds at 20%. Cloud cover 80%)

Thanks all
Simon
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Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
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User currently offlineRyanair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 10727 times:

I have noticed this too, unfortunately I think it is a limit with FS9 and cannot be altered. It is unrealistic, like you said when your at FL300+ and it is supposed to be overcast down below the ground is visable with only a few bits of lower level cloud. I'd also like to hear if anyone has solved this or has it been fixed in FSX?

737


User currently offlineGoingAround From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 10706 times:

I would try altering the Visibility altitude in the 'Advanced Weather' menu, that should help with the sudden change of visibility (I normally change mine to the altitude that the cloud cover stops anyway as this is more realistic).

Past that the only thing I can suggest is maybe shelling out for a full copy of FSUIPC that will automatically 'smooth' the cloud layers and allow them to be rendered properly. Along with the many other features it provides for FS.

Alex


User currently offlineRyanair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 10687 times:

Quoting GoingAround (Reply 2):
I would try altering the Visibility altitude in the 'Advanced Weather' menu, that should help with the sudden change of visibility (I normally change mine to the altitude that the cloud cover stops anyway as this is more realistic).

That only works if your not using Real World Weather.

737


User currently offlineGoingAround From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 10653 times:

Quoting Ryanair737 (Reply 3):

Sorry, you hadn't mentioned you were using Real World Weather.

The default Real weather does have issues about rendering weather properly, the only solution to this is to get an addon that will use its own METAR information to produce weather situations. This can be done by programmes such as ActiveSky and GroundEnvironment. I think there is a free programme out there but unfortunately I couldn't tell you where to get it as I have searched and not found anything  Sad

All the best,
Alex


User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10613 times:

Im not using the default weather im using Flight 1's Flight Envirment. ?????


Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
User currently offlineGoingAround From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 10594 times:

Quoting LHRSIMON (Reply 5):
Im not using the default weather im using Flight 1's Flight Environment. ?????

Flight environment will provide the textures for things such as clouds etc. However it will not provide weather data (cloud coverage, visibility etc.) this will be provided either by FS (real world weather or pre-defined weather) or an external programme such as ActiveSky.

Are you setting the weather in the FS menu, or are you using real weather? Either provided by FS itself, or another programme?

Alex


User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 10589 times:

So to get real weather in "REAL WORLD WEATHER" i have to have Flight Enviroment AND Active Sky ???

Thx
SIMON



Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
User currently offlineGoingAround From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 10572 times:

Quoting LHRSIMON (Reply 7):
So to get real weather in "REAL WORLD WEATHER" i have to have Flight Enviroment AND Active Sky ???

No  Wink

Both FlightEnvironment and ActiveSky provide the textures for clouds and sky colours. FS can provide real world weather. ActiveSky will produce enhanced real world weather.

You can get real world weather without either programme. FS can provide both, what FlightEnvironment and Activesky do it ENHANCE it  Smile

I answer to your original question:

In the real world, above the clouds, the visibility is usually much better then below the cloud canopy, this is due to things such as rain and lower lying cloud. So technically you would notice a dramatic difference between below the cloud and above the cloud. However, in the real world, there is very rarely only one layer of cloud, so the transition between these 2 stages is not as noticeable. In FS these many layers are not simulated in the default weather themes. To do this I would suggest making your own layers in the custom weather menu, and layering in around 3-5 different canopy's, each one with decreasing levels of cloud cover.

An example could be:

1000-4000ft - Thunderstorms (Overcast)
4000-5000ft - Thunderstorms (Scattered)
5000-6000ft - Cumulus (Scattered)
6000-6500ft - Cumulus (Few)
6500-7000ft - Stratus (Few)

Visibility:
5(km or miles, can't remember which FS uses) - 6000ft

Obviously this will differ judging on the effect you are wanting to create. This is only an example, I'm not sure how this would turn out exactly in FS however it is similar to the kinds of settings I use when creating thunderstorms.

I hope this clears things up for you,
Alex


User currently offlineWilax From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 465 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 10345 times:

The basic problem is the way FS9 renders visibility. Cloud cover is different from visibility and remains constant and varies only slightly as you move around. You see clouds at the horizon, fly past them, and then they disappear behind you. Visibility, in FS9 does not work that way. The sudden change that you observe is the visibility changing. In FS9 the degree of visibility is a fog that surrounds the user aircraft up to a certain altitude and out to a certain radius. You will never fly into or out of a different visibility. It just changes. You may notice, when you are at altitude, FL 270 or above, the weather may be clear all around you, but if you look straight down (keypad 5) you will see a fog near sea level. That fog travels with you in areas where visibility is low. As you fly into an area with unlimited vis. your fog will just disappear.

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