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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3305 posts, RR: 13
Posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 18399 times:
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Hello, all.

I've been using X-plane for a few months now, and my biggest complaint probably has to be ATC, and the manual's lack of completeness.

Firstly, and more importantly...
I was wondering how to use the FMS correctly. I love to do long flights across the Atlantic, but I have work every day, so normally I take off in the morning, put the destination into the FMS, put my bearing needly on the red line, and leave it on autopilot while I go to work. Then, when I come home, I'm 700 miles off course, adding an hour to the flight and just making it a dumb experience all around. I know some of the waypoints along the way, but I have two questions. On a real flight, how far apart are consecutive waypoints, and how would I use the FMS to make the aircraft fly the route I want, all on its own? Is this even possible?

In regards to ATC. They vector me in from cruise altitude, and usually I get a good ILS approach and they put me in line with the runway. But, sometimes, they make me guess. They tell me to contact the tower, and I have no idea what bearing I should be on. Sure, I could look at the charts, but shouldn't ATC be better? Also, what is a standard rate of descent for final approach? The glideslope is usually around -700 fpm, but I, very often, find myself just a hundred feet from the threshhold, 600 feet AGL, and I have to nose-dive straight down and pull up violently to get down in time. Again, would the only way to fix this be to look at approach charts?

Also, the planes I use seem to change appearance. Every time I make a flight, the fuselage gets blurrier and blurrier. On my BA777, you can no longer read the titles on the fuselage, and the tail is just a muddle of black lines (it's the Hong Kong world tail). Same with my other planes.

In regards to weather. I download Live Weather from the internet, but it doesn't seem to have it for anywhere but the USA. Or an I dreaming? Also, it seems that no matter what the weather is reported to be, I get down to 2000 feet and I can't see 5 feet in front of me. Even if I change the weather myself to be perfectly clear with 14 mile visibility, the same thing happens.

Thanks for any advice you can give me.

TIS


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User currently offlineJogales From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 18382 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Thread starter):

I was wondering how to use the FMS correctly.

To have the plane follow your desired route after you've programmed it into the FMS, switch the autopilot source selector to FMS or NAV (varies with different planes) Switch the autopilot on with the flight director switch by moving it to "auto" and turn on NAV or LOC autopilot (also depends on the model)

Quoting ANITIX87 (Thread starter):
In regards to ATC.

X-Plane's ATC is rubbish and not worth using. If you want ATC, I'd suggest connecting to IVAO or VATSIM.

Quoting ANITIX87 (Thread starter):
Also, the planes I use seem to change appearance

Go to settings/rendering options and change the texture resolution to high or very high. I'd also recommend using the 777 from XP Jets as it is much better looking and more accurately built than the default one as long as your computer can handle it. http://www.xpjets.com/

Quoting ANITIX87 (Thread starter):
In regards to weather. I download Live Weather from the internet, but it doesn't seem to have it for anywhere but the USA. Or an I dreaming? Also, it seems that no matter what the weather is reported to be, I get down to 2000 feet and I can't see 5 feet in front of me. Even if I change the weather myself to be perfectly clear with 14 mile visibility, the same thing happens.

Real weather should work outside of the US...perhaps the weather reporting system that X-Plane uses is down where you're flying. As far as not being able to see 5 feet in front of you, it's probably because you have your rendering options set too high for your computer. X-Plane will reduce visibility when the framerate dips below 19 FPS to keep an accurate flight model. There's no way around it except lowering your rendering options or getting a faster computer. Turning off objects, roads, forests and the high detail world checkbox helps FPS a lot as does lowering the world detail distance to low.

Josh



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3305 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 18367 times:
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Quoting Jogales (Reply 1):
To have the plane follow your desired route after you've programmed it into the FMS, switch the autopilot source selector to FMS or NAV (varies with different planes) Switch the autopilot on with the flight director switch by moving it to "auto" and turn on NAV or LOC autopilot (also depends on the model)

On the 777 I usually use, the SOURCE knob has NAV1, NAV2, and GPS as options. The autopilot has HDG and LOC. I assume I should be using NAV1 and LOC, right? Or should I use GPS for the source?

Along similar lines, I plan on flying DXB-ATL this weekend. Would this be a good route? All I did was look at a map of waypoints, and pick ones that look like they could be a realistic flight path.

GRD J209 RDU J209 ORF AR9 ZIBUT LARGE
JOBOC NATY MUDOS NATY STG UN725 BCN
UM601 ALG UM603 ROTUN UM728 VENTO UM601
GILOS UM601 BALMA R655 CAK J222 BASEM
R785 ZELAF UR785 RASLI UP559 BOTEP UP559
LOTIT A791 DESDI



Thanks.

TIS



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User currently offlineJogales From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 18354 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 2):
On the 777 I usually use, the SOURCE knob has NAV1, NAV2, and GPS as options. The autopilot has HDG and LOC. I assume I should be using NAV1 and LOC, right? Or should I use GPS for the source?

GPS and LOC

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 2):
Would this be a good route?

I'd fly:

GRD J209 RDU J209 ORF AR9 ZIBUT LARGE
JOBOC NATY MUDOS NATY STG UN725 BCN
UM601 ALG UM603 ROTUN UM728 VENTO UM601
GILOS UM601 BALMA R655 CAK J222 BASEM
R785 ZELAF UR785 RASLI UP559 BOTEP UP559
LOTIT A791 DESDI

as that is the route flown by a DL 772 operating DAL8 yesterday.

Josh



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3305 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 18341 times:
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Thanks! Also, out of curiosity, is there a place I can go, online or elsewhere, to find a map of waypoints? I'd like to fly WAW-TLV, since I'm in WAW right now, but I don't know the waypoints on the way or anything like that.

TIS



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User currently offlineJogales From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 18333 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 4):
is there a place I can go, online or elsewhere, to find a map of waypoints?

Try here: http://www.flightsimaviation.com/_flight_planner.html

Josh



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3305 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 18332 times:
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Thanks. I'll check that out.

Also, I downloaded a bunch of 777 from xpjets.com, and x-plane can't find them. It says the file is corrupt when I try to open it. Should I be doing anything particular with the folders that it gives me when I unzip the file? All I did was drag them into the Heavy Metal folder in the Aircraft directory of x-plane. What's going wrong?

TIS



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User currently offlineJogales From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 18319 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 6):
Also, I downloaded a bunch of 777 from xpjets.com, and x-plane can't find them. It says the file is corrupt when I try to open it. Should I be doing anything particular with the folders that it gives me when I unzip the file? All I did was drag them into the Heavy Metal folder in the Aircraft directory of x-plane. What's going wrong?

What version of X-Plane are you using? The XPJ 777 is made for 8.60, so make sure you have the latest version. Download the updater at X-Plane.com.

Josh



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3305 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 18288 times:
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Hey, Josh.

I downloaded the update and I'm having a mass of problems. It's infinitely slower. The detail is good, but the plane doesn't respond. I put it on autopilot, and the autothrottle just stays at 101 percent, even when I'm at the speed I want. The heading hold doesn't work in HDG or LOC mode. And when I press the HDG or LOC button, the Altitude Hold comes up, but the number on the altitude turns into my present altitude. When I try to change it, the plane goes into oscillations, going up at +3000 fpm, losing speed until stalls, and then going to -3000 fpm. Once it hits the speed I had in the autothrottle, it starts to climb again, at 3000 fpm. And the cycle continues.

The plane won't follow the flight plan I give it, even at GPS and LOC, as you suggested.

If it matters, this is all with the BA 772 that comes in X-plane.

Also, when I try to enter a flightplan, it refuses to recognize some of the waypoints. The standard fixes like GITLA, KAROL, and the like are fine, but others, like three-letter ones or ones with numbers (J209, for example) don't show up on the flight plan. I also can't open the en-route map using CTRL-T anymore, and some of the other keyboard commands don't work either.

Any tips?

TIS



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User currently offlineAabFlyer From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2007, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 18285 times:

! was having some problems with X-Plane and a member kindly pointed me at X-Plane forums for help. Maybe you use the forums already but anyway here's the link:

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?act=idx

Cheers.


User currently offlineChksix From Sweden, joined Sep 2005, 345 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 18284 times:

I have to recommend the aircraft I'm co author on since it has a realistic Boeing autopilot simulation.
http://www.stratmann-web.net/xplane/Home.html
Check the BBJ's out : http://www.stratmann-web.net/xplane/Boeing_737-BBJ_v8.html

Also, whenever you update the sim or start having troubles, delete the contents of the Prefernces folder. New prefs will be created on restart.

[Edited 2007-06-22 19:36:08]


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User currently offlineJogales From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 18276 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 8):

Try looking at this page for help with the autopilot. It changed significantly in 8.60. http://home.earthlink.net/~x-plane/FAQ-Autopilot-V86.html

Josh



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3305 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 18267 times:
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According to the Circle Mapper, JFK-GVA is 3863 nm.

I went to that flight planner site you linked me to and it gives me a route literally twice that length. It vectors me, instead of a bearing along the lines of 060, which is the direction in which GVA is located, along a vector of 160 degrees. It does that for about 4000 nm, until suddenly vectoring me at 40 degrees for another 1000nm, then 60 degrees for the last 1000nm. This is, obviously, a completely unrealistic route, and while I have figures out how to fly such a flight plan now, I am wondering what I should do? Anywhere else I can get a flight plan that will actually be realistic? A free on? Can I change my parameters on the site I've used already to get a better route?



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User currently offlineChksix From Sweden, joined Sep 2005, 345 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 18256 times:

Did you try the free Route planner http://rfinder.asalink.net/free/ ? It sometimes builds strange routes too. You have to enable NATS to get correct atlantic tracks.


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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3305 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 18237 times:
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Quoting Chksix (Reply 13):
Did you try the free Route planner http://rfinder.asalink.net/free/ ? It sometimes builds strange routes too. You have to enable NATS to get correct atlantic tracks.

I tried this site and it wouldn't load. So I decided to use the other one. But that wouldn't load either. And then I meant to go back to the one you recommended and I got to the one I'd previously used. Or so I thought. They are, believe it or not, the same thing. If you go to the site Jogales recommended, and you look at the HTML source code, you'll see they just use the site you recommended and insert it into the webpage as an iFrame.

So, I'm still having a problem with routing, until one of the sites will load correctly.

TIS



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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4943 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 18222 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 8):
Also, when I try to enter a flightplan, it refuses to recognize some of the waypoints. The standard fixes like GITLA, KAROL, and the like are fine, but others, like three-letter ones or ones with numbers (J209, for example) don't show up on the flight plan. I also can't open the en-route map using CTRL-T anymore, and some of the other keyboard commands don't work either.

For the record (and I didn't even realize this until a few months ago), three letter waypoints are always VORs and waypoint starting with J isn't actually a waypoint at all. It's a jet airway. Therefore, if the flightplan calls for J209, just add in all the fixes ALONG that jet airway.

The only reason it's listed as J209 in the flightplan is to abbreviate. Otherwise, you'd have to list all the individual fixes when filing a flightplan to ATC...



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3305 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 17 hours ago) and read 18208 times:
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Thanks.

Where can I find all the waypoints along a given Jetway? I've been using FlightAware to get plans of real flights, but, as you said, they always use the abbreviations, and I wouldn't know where to get the appropriate waypoints.

TIS



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3305 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 18086 times:
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Ok, so I'm using GoodWay, along with the site you guys recommended, and it's working quite well.

More questions...

1) How do I use autoland? I'm curious to see how well it will work, but I can't get my plane to intercept the G/S.

2) It seems like every flight I make, at some point, I'll be cruising at FL330, IAS mach .87, and all of a sudden, my engine thrust will disappear, though the levers still indicate 99%. My IAS will go down to like 80kts and the stall warning goes off. It happens EVERY flight about 3 hours in.

Thanks!

TIS



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User currently offlineJogales From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 18076 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 17):
1) How do I use autoland? I'm curious to see how well it will work, but I can't get my plane to intercept the G/S.

2) It seems like every flight I make, at some point, I'll be cruising at FL330, IAS mach .87, and all of a sudden, my engine thrust will disappear, though the levers still indicate 99%. My IAS will go down to like 80kts and the stall warning goes off. It happens EVERY flight about 3 hours in.

1: Look at the local map in sectional mode with the "show all ILS" button checked to get the correct frequency if you don't already have it. Put that frequency into your nav1 radio and make sure the autopilot selector knob is set to nav1 and flight director switch is set to auto. Turn on LOC and G/S autopilot modes.

2: Mach .87 is a bit fast. Normal cruise for an airliner is somewhere between 0.79 and 0.85. About 3 hours into your flight sounds like you might be running out of fuel. Make sure you have enough to complete your flight before you take off. Fuel loads can be adjusted in the settings/weight&balance&fuel menu. 99% throttle is high. 90% or less should be all that's needed depending on weight. You'll use a lot more fuel down low at FL330 with 99% power than you will at FL390 with ~90% power.

Josh



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3305 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 18075 times:
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Quoting Jogales (Reply 18):
1: Look at the local map in sectional mode with the "show all ILS" button checked to get the correct frequency if you don't already have it. Put that frequency into your nav1 radio and make sure the autopilot selector knob is set to nav1 and flight director switch is set to auto. Turn on LOC and G/S autopilot modes.


Thanks. Will try when I get home! I have to approach the G/S from below, correct? Will the plane and and apply braking, speed brakes, and reverse all on its own?

[quote=Jogales,reply=18]2: Mach .87 is a bit fast. Normal cruise for an airliner is somewhere between 0.79 and 0.85. About 3 hours into your flight sounds like you might be running out of fuel. Make sure you have enough to complete your flight before you take off. Fuel loads can be adjusted in the settings/weight&balance&fuel menu. 99% throttle is high. 90% or less should be all that's needed depending on weight. You'll use a lot more fuel down low at FL330 with 99% power than you will at FL390 with ~90% power.

I always make sure I have enough fuel. The other day, for example, flying HNL-IAH, it happened 3 hrs in, and I still had 7.2 hrs of fuel left at FL330 and 84% thrust. Normally, if I go to Fail Equipment and click "Reset Operational" or whatever it says, nothing changes. The only thing I have found effective is dropping to a lower altitude at full thrust to get my speed back, and then things seem to go back to normal. I also notice that, when it happens, the horizontal stabilizer goes to the full UP position, I assume to avoid a stall, though I can't be sure.

Any other ideas?

TIS

[Edited 2007-07-06 20:54:45]

[Edited 2007-07-06 20:57:24]


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User currently offlineChksix From Sweden, joined Sep 2005, 345 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 18057 times:

The problem with the dropping thrust could depend on the aircraft or the new busted xplane autopilot.
I forgot to mention that you should turn off all AI flown aircraft in the aircraft & situations screen to allow the cpu to use all it's power to fly your plane and draw the environment.

Also set your MTBF time to 99.9999999 etc to avoid inflight problems caused by unrealistic faults. (parts of aircraft falling off)

What plane and version of the sim do you use?



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3305 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 18053 times:
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Quoting Chksix (Reply 20):

What plane and version of the sim do you use?

8.40, I almost always fly the 772 that's provided. I tried upgrading to 860, but it didn't work at all, and I didn't like some of the changes. So I'm sticking to 840.

TIS



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User currently offlineChksix From Sweden, joined Sep 2005, 345 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 18030 times:

Take a look at this forum for free aircraft that are compatible with older versions of xplane:
http://www.xplanefreeware.net/forums/index.php?act=idx



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User currently offlineMdodd From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 17941 times:

Funny I fly in the 777 provided with X-Plane, version 8.6 and seem to have no issues like your describing. Possibly something on your end? Have you tried doing some simple maintenance to X-Plane? What are you running?

User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3305 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 17923 times:
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Quoting Mdodd (Reply 23):
Funny I fly in the 777 provided with X-Plane, version 8.6

Version 8.6 was a big update, with completely changed AP. I tried running it, and found that for some reason, my computer complained even more. I'm using a G4 iBook (15") with OS 10.3 1.07GHz Power PC and 512MB DDR SDRAM.

TIS



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