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One Thing You Dislike About FSX  
User currently offlineJamesbaldwyn From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8951 times:

One thing you dislike about FSX.

I would like to scrap the eye candy and work on what matters... the simulation!

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User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4898 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8924 times:

The jetway and GSE. I like them there and the eye candy it provides, but it needs some serious improvement. For example, since when do jetbridges get stored in a position where it looks like a stick out of the building instead of the traditional "L"? It wastes time when I call it up! Also, the baggage loading crew needs some serious work. They only go on the right side, regardless what the aircraft.cfg says about door position (see "CRJ-700").


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User currently offlineJamesJimlb From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1023 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 8896 times:

the framerates!!!!! and that you can't put it onto ultra high settings.

btw, what is better, higher or lower framerates?



The sky is no longer the limit, but the mere minimum
User currently offlineJamesbaldwyn From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8892 times:

Quoting JamesJimlb (Reply 2):
btw, what is better, higher or lower framerates?

Whatever your pc can handle.

I was amazed as I put my pc on medium low and got around 25.
I put everything on ultra high and got 5FPS  Smile Which is almost playable


User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3509 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8875 times:

The whole thing. Can't believe that's what we were waiting for.


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User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8873 times:

Framerates...FSX looks worse on the same framerates I got with FS9. In that regard, I can almost say FS9 provided better graphics.

User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3509 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8866 times:

Quoting N231YE (Reply 5):
In that regard, I can almost say FS9 provided better graphics.

Given the fact that FS9 is infinitely more developer friendly than FSX, that's pretty much true. My tricked-out FS9 setup (though currently out of order) looks way slicker than anything I've seen from FSX...and I can fly planes in it.



Next Flight: 9/17 BFI-BFI
User currently offlineJamesJimlb From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1023 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8859 times:

Quoting Jamesbaldwyn (Reply 3):
Whatever your pc can handle.

I was amazed as I put my pc on medium low and got around 25.
I put everything on ultra high and got 5FPS   Which is almost playable

well, i'm not sure what it can, is there a program i can install to help framerates?



The sky is no longer the limit, but the mere minimum
User currently offlineQFA380 From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 2081 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8843 times:

I hate that Microsoft has made the assumption that the world is a desert, everything is sand coloured.

User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4952 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8821 times:

I don't have FSX, but from every screenshot I've ever seen of it-

Where are the photoreal ground textures around the busiest and biggest airports like they've had since at least FS2002?



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User currently offlineJamesbaldwyn From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 8805 times:

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 8):
I hate that Microsoft has made the assumption that the world is a desert, everything is sand coloured.

I'll drink to that. Its really annoying isn't it!


User currently offlineKhelmDTW From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8553 times:

Graphic Memory Hog.

Plain and simple.



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User currently offlineArniePie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8543 times:

If they hadn't tried to focus so much on eye-candy (as in autogen+ very dense landclass possibilities) but more on a leap in AI handling and ATC possibilities I would have switched to FSX in a heartbeat even knowing that I couldn't use many of my favorite addons for a while.
But they decided to invest all their developing time in eye-candy whit the current result being that in the points it should have evolved there is virtually no change with FS9 and the fields that have evolved (graphics) are with current hardware possibilities not usable.



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User currently offlineRKDflier From United States of America, joined May 2004, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8424 times:

Fuel trucks never getting to my plane. Always stop enroute and sit there forever.


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User currently offlinePMDGpilot From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8423 times:

I don't like the textures as well. But I still hate the ATC system. I don't get QNH outside the US or Metric Altitudes over Russia and China. I think that the direction Microsoft went in was nice. I just wish they made the change more gradual instead of all at once. That way it wouldn't turn into a nightmare to transition for everyone. They also could've improved the realism (ATC, Weather system, flight dynamics). If you take my current setup and addons, it's really "As Real As It Gets". I thought FSX was supposed to come like that before the addons.

User currently offlineEbs757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 758 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 8340 times:

That I have to have the display settings half what I have in FS9 and still get the same frame rates...that really sucks and is the main reason im more FS9


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User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8318 times:

Wow... guess I will be upgrading my 2002 to FS9, eh?


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User currently offlineJamesbaldwyn From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8050 times:

Quoting Ebs757 (Reply 15):
That I have to have the display settings half what I have in FS9 and still get the same frame rates...that really sucks and is the main reason im more FS9

FS9 Ultra High is the near equivelent to FSX set on Medium Low/High


User currently offlineEvers From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8038 times:

the fact the i bought a new computer for it, 7950GT, 2gb RAM, E6400 and it still runs like crap.

with all the add-ons for FS9 i cant see myself making the change in a long time.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8020 times:

Quoting PMDGpilot (Reply 14):
I don't get QNH outside the US or Metric Altitudes over Russia and China.

Not to mention that the transition altitudes are always the same ones (the US transition altitude of 18000 feet).

In retrospect, I may have bought FSX, messed around with it for a while, and then go back to FS9. I never found it here in Costa Rica, at least not in the major computer stores. What mostly pisses me off about FSX is this constant emphasis on DX10, when they don't even release a version with DX10 or even a version where you can switch from DX9 to DX10, etc. For now, I'm sticking with FS9. It's just the better sim.

Also, I'm pissed off at PMDG and Level-D. Just because FSX is out, doesn't mean everyone will start using it. Granted, Level-D at least was upfront about their intentions no to release the 757 for FS9 but for FSX, but the dirty tactics of PMDG, releasing the MD-11 for FSX only, after over 3 years of development, and along with that jacking up prices by swapping the dollar sign with a Euro sign, has definitely made me think twice about buying any PMDG product in the future.

Fact is: if I get FSX, I'll just mess around with it until there are enough addons to use it with and until I have a decent computer to run it.


User currently offlineJasond From Australia, joined Jul 2009, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 8010 times:

1) Got it bundled with a recent joystick purchase
2) Installed it
3) Set it up just like my FS9 (everything literally as high as possible)
4) Watched it die horribly at about 6-8 FPS
5) Un-installed it
6) Fired up FS9 (back to 25-30 FPS again everywhere)

Even with the very low frame rate which you tend to expect with any new version (remember going from FS98 - FS2000), graphically FSX with equivalent settings is very poor, I wouldn't even describe this as an 'update' to FS9 nevermind a full blown new product. Moving from 98 to 2000 was forgivable because of the obvious improvements, 2002 to 2004 was also a logical step without too much impact. FSX is quite simply appalling in every respect. I did however locate the new runway and taxiway textures and port them into FS9 so I didn't waste my money too much. They were at least genuinely better. I am going to try and do the same with autogen soon as well as there are a lot more different types of things in FSX.


User currently offlineBekol From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2001, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8006 times:

The thing I dislike most in FSX is - I once planned to spend some money on buying a new pc for it but then later I realised that I might had to spend a HUGE amount (some USD1K) but still couldn't fly it as joyful (w/ good graphics, fps, etc..) as in FS9.

Then what I could do is just buying a new pc for FS9 (which can run smoothly and perfectly on the new pc) and wait sometime for some hardware/software upgrades.


User currently offlineARNYEG From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7999 times:

Well the list could be long but I would say the poor framerates and ATC. Did they even improve anything with the ATC in FSX or just went with the FS9 ATC?

User currently offlineGenius12 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 197 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 7989 times:

A lack of emergency situations (eg. being able to declare an emergency/emergency landing with fire trucks etc.).

A lack of realistic damage (eg. bits breaking off!).

Only 1 airbridge per gate - some gates in real life have two, and as for A380 gates - they have three or more.

More aircraft are needed with realistic liveries - BA, Qantas, SIA etc. without the need for add-on textures.


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9097 posts, RR: 76
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 7981 times:
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ATC for sure... still the same old crap as in FS9... I mean, dudes, WORK on that for the next FS...

Btw: I am not using FSX anymore... My PC is too old and cant handle that! Max FPS I had was 10! And usually its as low as 3-5 or so... So back to good old FS9 Big grin

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25 B727-200 : The one thing i dislike it that it is unplayable with everything turned up on the latest machines. This just indicates sloppy programming in my mind.
26 Malaysia : AFcAD dont work with it yet still...... I am tired of my traffic all mixing up gate assignments. plus the more arid Earth in FSX (too many deserts)
27 Jasond : I will take you to task on that one because you are quite clearly wrong. What happens in the other games you have described is usually over much smal
28 Post contains images David L : Do you mean the AFCAD editor by Lee Swordy? That's a third party product and the last I heard was that he's not doing an FSX version. I don't think y
29 N231YE : Wow, and that's a fairly state-of-the-art computer... I wonder if FSX will only do good on dual, top of the line graphics cards.
30 Post contains images JohnKrist : Well, yes, it is kind of state of the art, but can FSX use the full force of the quad? It only has support for 2 cores by default, not 4, meaning tha
31 ARNYEG : I was under the impression that FSX didn't have support for more than one core before SP1 was released. Even with the quad core on the market, and su
32 N521na : I'm running an E6600, 2GB RAM, 8800GTS 320MB RAM, Win XP with all settings high except no AI traffic (I fly using VATSIM), and road/boat traffic set t
33 N231YE : I admit that you are correct. But a near-the-top nVidia GeForce 8800GTS can't run FSX? I guess FSX was designed for computers still four years away.
34 Post contains images B727-200 : JasonD, I take your point re smaller environment and objects on set paths as opposed to being simulated in a physical environmnt , but still very frus
35 JohnKrist : I think the Graphics board is not the problem, just that FSX can't use the multicore processors. And running a single core at 2,47GHz ought to give l
36 N231YE : I see what you're saying. Anyways, I am glad the original poster did describe his computer, since I was thinking of dropping 4 grand on a new PC with
37 B727-200 : I thought SP1 was supposed to fix the multicore problem? I reinstalled and did some more playing around with the sliders last night. I found that wit
38 Post contains images Jasond : Which is odd when you consider the reverse is true with FS2004. The trick with setting up bad weather is to appreciate that visibilities should be mu
39 Post contains images B727-200 : Very true on both versions - eg. once you enter the "ground fog" layer things speed up considerably. It was the same with my old XP machine running F
40 Dw747400 : As I see it, it fixes it as much as it can be fixed... you have some limits inherent in the fact the program was never originally written for multi-c
41 ZuluLima : There is really only one problem with FSX and that is what Micro$soft (to quote B727-200) did with the updated features. As others have mentioned, the
42 Post contains images Jasond : Its good purely for the challenge, not seeing the runway until 200 foot minimums and knowing you have nailed it
43 InnocuousFox : Coming from a game developer here... remember that the problem isn't necessarily doing the drawing, but itterating through the thousands of potential
44 Post contains images B727-200 : LOL, or experiencing an unexpected thud because you were not concentrating through short final (usually because my wife or kids will walk in just as
45 Post contains images Jasond : Yes, it's called eyes in the back of their heads
46 AirPacific747 : That's what I've concluded too! It's funny as FSX is a few years newer.. what have they been doing for the past many years??? The FPS have gotten qui
47 Post contains links InnocuousFox : Not sure. Haven't looked into it. I'm busy working on my own stuff!
48 LTU932 : Most of the default models still have panels that were created originally for FS2000, so no surprise there.
49 KevinL1011 : I can run FSX anywhere up to 30fps by eliminating or reducing certain graphic settings such as watercraft, ground vehicles and reducing mesh detail ju
50 Post contains links B727-200 : If you have a multi button controller then you can assign one to the function "Throttle Decrease Quickly", which does the same as holding the F2 key
51 Bofredrik : That Microsoft is so silent and do not want to discuss the quality of FSX. It is a shame to all us users that have bought and used FS products since m
52 Post contains images KevinL1011 : Hey! Thanks a lot for that tip! It cured the white out glare condition when the landing lights are on. It also runs alot smoother flying at night. I
53 InbarD : The FPS. You really do need a good rig to run FSX at max settings, i'm talking ultra high end. Service pack 1 did help a lot in increasing the FPS of
54 Adman737 : I dont like the fact that the A321 doesnt fly right its take too long to turn and it is very sensative to up and down. I have tryed to reset the setti
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