Dw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1252 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5484 times:
I buy block time at my club, which knocks the price down a bit. A mid 80's 152 runs around $53 an hour, wet, while the our flagship 2003 Arrow with dual Garmin 430s (not class but still cool!) runs $109/hour. CFI's are $25/hour.
Sadly, CAP has instituted new minimums for aircraft rental--when I did my Private and Instrument, I paid $21/hour dry, with a volunteer instructor!
Ryanair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5451 times:
I pay £117 per hour including instructor costs etc. for PPL flying training. Seems about the average rate in England.
Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 10): How the bloody hell are you guys getting all your planes cheap? do you have to pay extra for fuel used?
Flying training generally is cheaper in the USA, that is why so many people from the UK and Europe go over there to do the PPL or do hour building. If you look at the back of UK flying magazines and look at American flying schools and their prices and compare them to UK schools and their prices you will know what I mean.
Dw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1252 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 5338 times:
Quoting Mir (Reply 19): Landing fees for GA planes are mostly non-existant in the US.
At least at GA-centered airports. Many Bravo airports have fees, ranging from $5 to around $100 for a 172. And then the outrageous ramp fees and fuel prices. Last time I landed a 172 at BWI the bill for fuel and fees topped $200--$70 for the 10 gallons of AVGAS and the rest in fees. Of course, most of that was from Signature. The particular aircraft pays for its tie-down on the field, yet the somehow wanted to add a $100 ramp fee! Plus the $17 landing fee (which govenrment aircraft are exempted from) and a $15 handling fee.
After about half an hour of arguing I walked out paying for gas only--and they had the nerve to act like they were doing me a favor at $7/gallon.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 20466 posts, RR: 56 Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5296 times:
Quoting Dw747400 (Reply 20): Many Bravo airports have fees, ranging from $5 to around $100 for a 172. And then the outrageous ramp fees and fuel prices.
That's what you get for flying your 172 into a Class B airport. The fees are designed to keep away people who don't need to be there, and I have no problem with that - those airports are crowded enough as it is. Plus, as you say, only $17 (which I find reasonable) came from the landing fee, the rest was the FBO's charges (which I don't find as reasonable, but they have prime location, so they can charge that much and get away with it).
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SandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3402 posts, RR: 51 Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5290 times:
Provided i'll pass the final interview on november 19th (after passing all needed skill tests thus far), i'll get my PPL, ATPL and A320 typerating plus all other needed ratings for CHF25'000 ($21'470/€15'000/£10'400) self-cost. The rest kindly sponsored by LX
Bond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5240 posts, RR: 8 Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5270 times:
The 'average' going rate for a C172 or similar in the USA is around $80-120/hr (depending on age/avionics), plus $30-50/hr for an instructor.
It often works out about 1/2 price of the UK charges.
You can certainly get your Private License in the USA for around $5K-$6K or less.
If you buy 'block hours' you can get them at a discount (perhaps 10-25%).
That's why you can buy packages from the UK, that include flights to Florida/Arizona, plus accommodation, plus training, for less than the cost in the UK.... plus much better guarantee of good weather of course.
I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
25 Dw747400: Because of the cost and congestion, I try to avoid them whenever possible. But with CAP Wing HQ almost on top of BWI, they are not moving that plane,
26 Bond007: Yeah, but you didn't have to land. Could have just done missed approaches and not stopped at the FBO. Signature is famous for it's ridiculous ramp fe
27 Ryanair737: Damn I wanna be a Swiss born resident now.
28 Dw747400: Umm... what purpose does going missed at your alternate serve? I'm not talking practice approaches here!
29 Mir: Yeah, they are handy for alternates. But with LPV becoming common, soon you'll be able to get a precision approach into pretty much anywhere. Sure, t
30 Dw747400: Good point, but that $75 ramp fee doesn't look to bad compared to the cost of upgrading my G430s for LPVs! Of course, I'd rather have added flexiblit
31 Bond007: LOL ... sorry .. misinterpreted that one! I'll let you have that excuse then Jimbo
32 EDICHC: Approx $190NZ (about 68 GBP) per hour all-in (i.e. a/c hire, fuel, tuition and landing fees). Add to that when undertaking to take the full PPL course
33 Cerretaman: $103/hour for a pretty new Piper Warrior. (the Warrior III's have moving GPS and stuff..it's tight) $40/hour for my instructor.