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How Much Are Your Flying Lessons?  
User currently offlineJamesbaldwyn From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5849 times:

I was wondering... Big grin

I pay £ 120 per hour for a 2 seater (Robin Hr200) which if you do the maths works out at £ 10 per 5 mins!

How much do you have to pay ?

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User currently offlineAjd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 5848 times:

Between £110 and £117 per hour for a PA-38 Traumahawk.

Damn the fuel prices, i can remember when it was 80 quid an hour!


User currently offlineAllegiantAir From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1733 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5835 times:

The WHOLE thing including flying time, ground instruction, and books, exams, etc. is roughly $4,800.

http://www.alexandriaaviation.com/instruction.htm



Live to Fly.
User currently offlineAjd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5828 times:

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 2):
The WHOLE thing including flying time, ground instruction, and books, exams, etc. is roughly $4,800.

WHAT!?!?

Here it's that in pounds.... and half again! Somewhere in the region of $12000...

God, we get ripped off.


User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 5802 times:

I pay about £130 an hour for a Cessna 152 out of Cranfield Airport.

When I have my PPL its about £65 for solo hire, not too bad really.

Rgds --James--



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User currently offlineOpso1 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 527 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5799 times:

From 56 pounds per hour (C150) hiring cost, with free landings(!!!!) at RAF Waddington flying club. Tuition is an extra 20 pounds per hour.

Website:

http://www.waddingtonflyers.org/


User currently offlineBok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5745 times:

$132.50/hour wet for a 172 Analog.

$150/hour wet for a 172 G1000.

$50/hour for an instructor.



"Reality is wrong, dreams are for real." -Tupac
User currently offlineDw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1257 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5740 times:

I buy block time at my club, which knocks the price down a bit. A mid 80's 152 runs around $53 an hour, wet, while the our flagship 2003 Arrow with dual Garmin 430s (not class but still cool!) runs $109/hour. CFI's are $25/hour.

Sadly, CAP has instituted new minimums for aircraft rental--when I did my Private and Instrument, I paid $21/hour dry, with a volunteer instructor!



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User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5721 times:

Alright Guys...don't shoot me....

$50/hr for a C-172
$13/hr for instructor


User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21520 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5712 times:

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 8):
Alright Guys...don't shoot me....

$50/hr for a C-172
$13/hr for instructor

I will shoot you unless you tell me what year that 172 is and where you're flying out of.  Smile

-Mir



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User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 6 days ago) and read 5709 times:

How the bloody hell are you guys getting all your planes cheap? do you have to pay extra for fuel used?

rgds --James--



You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
User currently offlineRyanair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5707 times:

I pay £117 per hour including instructor costs etc. for PPL flying training. Seems about the average rate in England.

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 10):
How the bloody hell are you guys getting all your planes cheap? do you have to pay extra for fuel used?

Flying training generally is cheaper in the USA, that is why so many people from the UK and Europe go over there to do the PPL or do hour building. If you look at the back of UK flying magazines and look at American flying schools and their prices and compare them to UK schools and their prices you will know what I mean.


User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5700 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 9):
I will shoot you unless you tell me what year that 172 is and where you're flying out of. Smile

-Mir

They're pretty New...2003, Analog with GPS.

Its discounted because its through a company I work for.


User currently offlineFuturecaptain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5687 times:

At the school here students pay
$160 / hr for a 152 (private, comm SEL, and CFI training)
$180 / hr for a 172R (instrument rating and CFII training)
$285 / hr for a PA-44 (comm MEL and MEI training)

If I feel like renting a plane and going up I go elsewhere on the field and it's only
$65 / hr for a 152
$90-100 / hr for a 172 depending on model. R, S, or RG.


User currently offlineHalcyon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5679 times:

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 12):

They're pretty New...2003, Analog with GPS.

Its discounted because its through a company I work for.

Yeah, it is definitely time to shoot you.  Smile

Here are the rates at Rocky:

Per Hour Rates

Piper Archer III (Basic aircraft, including glass) $120


Beechcraft Bonanza (complex aircraft) $150


Piper Seminole (multi-engine aircraft) $210


Frasca Raptor or Mentor Flight Training Device
(Raptor is round dial cockpit)
(Mentor is glass cockpit) $40


Flight / ground instruction $37


FAA Examiner fee $250


Lasergrade knowledge exams $80


The main thing is that I am enjoying classes and learning...unlike my time at PRC. Should have gone to DAB I guess, but it worked out in the end.


User currently offline9VSIO From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 708 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5674 times:
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Hmm, could a significant chunk of the difference be due to landing fees? I heard that they are minimal in the US.

I pay £150 for dual instruction in a 172, ~£190 for dual instruction in an Extra. Local landing fees are factored in, and the plane kept in top notch condition.



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User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5673 times:

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 12):
Its discounted because its through a company I work for.

Heavily discounted, is what I think you meant..  Smile



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User currently offlineDw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1257 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5646 times:

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 8):
$50/hr for a C-172

Just wondering--Is that wet or dry?



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User currently offlineRedArrows From Ireland, joined May 2007, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5607 times:

I pay 168 euro an hour including instructor fees to train in a Grob 115

User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21520 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5606 times:

Quoting 9VSIO (Reply 15):
Hmm, could a significant chunk of the difference be due to landing fees? I heard that they are minimal in the US.

Landing fees for GA planes are mostly non-existant in the US.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineDw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1257 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5594 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 19):
Landing fees for GA planes are mostly non-existant in the US.

At least at GA-centered airports. Many Bravo airports have fees, ranging from $5 to around $100 for a 172. And then the outrageous ramp fees and fuel prices. Last time I landed a 172 at BWI the bill for fuel and fees topped $200--$70 for the 10 gallons of AVGAS and the rest in fees. Of course, most of that was from Signature. The particular aircraft pays for its tie-down on the field, yet the somehow wanted to add a $100 ramp fee! Plus the $17 landing fee (which govenrment aircraft are exempted from) and a $15 handling fee.

After about half an hour of arguing I walked out paying for gas only--and they had the nerve to act like they were doing me a favor at $7/gallon.



CFI--Certfied Freakin Idiot
User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21520 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5552 times:

Quoting Dw747400 (Reply 20):
Many Bravo airports have fees, ranging from $5 to around $100 for a 172. And then the outrageous ramp fees and fuel prices.

That's what you get for flying your 172 into a Class B airport. The fees are designed to keep away people who don't need to be there, and I have no problem with that - those airports are crowded enough as it is. Plus, as you say, only $17 (which I find reasonable) came from the landing fee, the rest was the FBO's charges (which I don't find as reasonable, but they have prime location, so they can charge that much and get away with it).

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3427 posts, RR: 50
Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5546 times:

Provided i'll pass the final interview on november 19th (after passing all needed skill tests thus far), i'll get my PPL, ATPL and A320 typerating plus all other needed ratings for CHF25'000 ($21'470/€15'000/£10'400) self-cost. The rest kindly sponsored by LX Big grin

User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5537 times:

Quoting Dw747400 (Reply 17):
Just wondering--Is that wet or dry?

I think it'd be a wet lease...they pay for fuel and all that stuff..i just come in and fly the plane.


User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5397 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5526 times:

The 'average' going rate for a C172 or similar in the USA is around $80-120/hr (depending on age/avionics), plus $30-50/hr for an instructor.

It often works out about 1/2 price of the UK charges.

You can certainly get your Private License in the USA for around $5K-$6K or less.

If you buy 'block hours' you can get them at a discount (perhaps 10-25%).

That's why you can buy packages from the UK, that include flights to Florida/Arizona, plus accommodation, plus training, for less than the cost in the UK.... plus much better guarantee of good weather of course.


Jimbo



I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
25 Dw747400 : Because of the cost and congestion, I try to avoid them whenever possible. But with CAP Wing HQ almost on top of BWI, they are not moving that plane,
26 Bond007 : Yeah, but you didn't have to land. Could have just done missed approaches and not stopped at the FBO. Signature is famous for it's ridiculous ramp fe
27 Ryanair737 : Damn I wanna be a Swiss born resident now.
28 Dw747400 : Umm... what purpose does going missed at your alternate serve? I'm not talking practice approaches here!
29 Mir : Yeah, they are handy for alternates. But with LPV becoming common, soon you'll be able to get a precision approach into pretty much anywhere. Sure, t
30 Dw747400 : Good point, but that $75 ramp fee doesn't look to bad compared to the cost of upgrading my G430s for LPVs! Of course, I'd rather have added flexiblit
31 Post contains images Bond007 : LOL ... sorry .. misinterpreted that one! I'll let you have that excuse then Jimbo
32 EDICHC : Approx $190NZ (about 68 GBP) per hour all-in (i.e. a/c hire, fuel, tuition and landing fees). Add to that when undertaking to take the full PPL course
33 Cerretaman : $103/hour for a pretty new Piper Warrior. (the Warrior III's have moving GPS and stuff..it's tight) $40/hour for my instructor.
34 Post contains images AlexEU : Did you practice stall in Traumahawk ?
35 Post contains images Aviator1990 : I pay or used to pay $205/hr but now I get discounts for being LEFT HANDED. Can you believe it. I was in SHOCK. American truly is an amazing country.
36 Dw747400 : There are some bennefits for being left handed when you fly, but you are going to need to explain how that translates into cheaper lessons!
37 United757 : I fly out of ORL... $135/hr wet for a 172SP G1000 $48 for the instructor
38 Bond007 : Well, you need a discount to be in line with the average rates! What aircraft is that for?? Single Piston??? Jimbo
39 Mir : Probably one of those scholarships given out by groups of long-oppressed left-handed people (or left-handed people who think they're long-oppressed)
40 Aviator1990 : its for the C172. I got this scholarship from the my schools college counselor.
41 Bond007 : Then I hope your 'left handed' discount is 50% ... otherwise you're being taken for a ride ... in a very expenseive 172. Jimbo
42 CitationJet : Here is the best deal in the country: Cessna Employees' Flying Club, Wichita, KS 172S - $50/hr 172RG - $63.00/hr 182T - $69.00/hr T182 - $75.00/hr 206
43 Post contains links and images Futurecaptain : That is very cheap for this... But what happens if one day you need to fly this....?
44 CitationJet : I believe the flying club kept one of the "steam guage" 172s for that purpose. However everything being produced now is G1000. .
45 Post contains images Bond007 : Not really, for the company flying club, for the company that manufacturers the aircraft, where presumably you have to be an employee. Not quite repr
46 FLY2HMO : $130-ish for new 2007 NAVIII C172Ss. $160-ish if dual. Our Seminoles are $250, and are dual only (unless you're a ME-CFI for the school, in which case
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