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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17064 posts, RR: 10
Posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6514 times:

I just have a question: Why do the aircrafts in FSX have so little range. I cant for example even make LAX-JFK non stop with the 738. In the reality you can do that route easily with the 738. Why is it like this??


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User currently offlineDw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1259 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6511 times:

What altitude and cruise mode are you using? Whats your payload?


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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17064 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6510 times:



Quoting Dw747400 (Reply 1):
What altitude and cruise mode are you using?

37.000ft and 0.79m. The loads are: Full fuel load, and 22850 pounds of payload.



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6504 times:

Just click the engines stay on when out of fuel feature and you'll be fine ....  

[Edited 2008-04-12 12:28:32]


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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17064 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6498 times:



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 3):
Just click the engines stay on when out of fuel feature and you'll be fine ....

He,he. True, but you cant do that in the reality, right??  Wink



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6495 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 4):
He,he. True, but you cant do that in the reality, right??

It's a game, just don't tell anyone and no one will know ...  Wink Some things if FS are just so unrealistic that you have to cheat a bit now and then.

Also, if you're using the default 737 in FS, you may want to try an aftermarket add-on such as PMDG or POSKY for a more realistic experience. POSKY is free btw.



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17064 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6493 times:



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 5):
POSKY is free btw

Then will try POSKY. Do you know where I can find it??



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6490 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 6):
Then will try POSKY. Do you know where I can find it??

http://www.projectopensky.com/

www.avsim.com is another great site, it's free as well but you have to regisiter.



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17064 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6490 times:



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 7):

Great thank you so much. What will I need to do to get the files to work?? Where shall I install them, in which map and so on???



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6488 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 8):
What will I need to do to get the files to work?? Where shall I install them, in which map and so on???

Everything that you need is there, just download the base/model package of the aircraft you want and download the airline package you want. Download them into a designated folder, open them up and follow the instructions on where to put the files in your FS folder. Try avsim for some more realisitic engine sound files as well. The only other program you'll need is WinZip to unzip the downloaded files.



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17064 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 6485 times:



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 9):

Thank you so much for everything. Will try if it works!!



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User currently offlineDw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1259 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6463 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 2):
37.000ft and 0.79m. The loads are: Full fuel load, and 22850 pounds of payload.

I can't make any promises that the model is accurate, but you may want to slow down a bit. BBJs I work with typically do .76 on long legs. Domestically they can do .80 transcons, but they have a lot more fuel and a lot less payload than a commercial 738.



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17064 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6454 times:



Quoting Dw747400 (Reply 11):
but you may want to slow down a bit

Will try that. Hope it works.



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User currently offline9VSIO From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 713 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6438 times:
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How's your step climbing?


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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17064 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6426 times:



Quoting 9VSIO (Reply 13):
How's your step climbing?

When I climb to the cruise altitude, I climb everything between 1000-3500ft/min.



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6424 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 14):
Quoting 9VSIO (Reply 13):
How's your step climbing?

When I climb to the cruise altitude, I climb everything between 1000-3500ft/min.

A step climb is basically a climb done in steps to your cruising altitude. Let's say you want a cruising altitude of FL350, what you would do is maybe climb to FL280 and maintain that altitude until you've burned off fuel. Once the aircraft is lighter, you would climb to FL320 and maintain that altitude until you've burned more fuel. Once the aircraft has again become lighter, you continue your climb to FL350. Kind of like stairs. The idea is that this is the most fuel efficient way to climb to an altitude. Of course, it depends on your type of aircraft, weight of aircraft and atmospheric conditions.



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8994 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6421 times:
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Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 15):
A step climb is basically a climb done in steps to your cruising altitude. Let's say you want a cruising altitude of FL350, what you would do is maybe climb to FL280 and maintain that altitude until you've burned off fuel. Once the aircraft is lighter, you would climb to FL320 and maintain that altitude until you've burned more fuel. Once the aircraft has again become lighter, you continue your climb to FL350. Kind of like stairs. The idea is that this is the most fuel efficient way to climb to an altitude. Of course, it depends on your type of aircraft, weight of aircraft and atmospheric conditions.

 thumbsup  but try to stay within the semicircular rules. Westboud fly at even flightlevels and eastbound at odd flightlevels. The 737 would be able to get to FL310 with MTOW and then as ACDC8 said, do the stepclimbs. Starting FL310 (eastbound from LAX to JFK) and ending maybe 370 or so. With that high load she won't get higher.

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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6390 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 16):
but try to stay within the semicircular rules. Westboud fly at even flightlevels and eastbound at odd flightlevels.

 checkmark  Same applies to VFR cruise altitudes, for example in Canada it would be 000°-179° is odd thousand feet plus 500 feet and 180°-359° is even thousand feet plus 500 feet.



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User currently offline9VSIO From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 713 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6389 times:
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Quoting B747forever (Reply 14):
When I climb to the cruise altitude, I climb everything between 1000-3500ft/min.

That will affect fuel burn. Give it a go with step climbing. Climb to FL280, let fuel burn to 90% or so, then climb to FL320, then let fuel come down some more, then all the way up to FL390 (in increments). Don't let your speed bleed off too much in the climb, or it'll take forever to get back up to speed. It's much harder to manage this without a FMC. I've been having to judge manually on my CitationX to maximise its potential.

Also, what wind settings do you use?



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17064 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6377 times:



Quoting 9VSIO (Reply 18):
Give it a go with step climbing.

Will try that.

Thank you for all help guys. You are really professional  Wink



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