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QualitySim 757  
User currently onlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3244 posts, RR: 45
Posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9286 times:

What does anyone know about this new payware addon for FS9? From the looks of it, it is absolutely beautiful! Q2 2009 release date, and they seem to be really putting a good effort forward. Anyone here working with them (beta testing, designer etc...)? I can't wait to try it out, it looks like it will absolutely blow Captain Crap (sorry, Captain Sim) out of the water.

http://forum.qualitysim.com/

Cheers,
Cameron

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User currently offlineLHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9260 times:

Looks very good.

When is it out?


User currently offlineDreamsUnited From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 9193 times:

It does look very nice, too bad Captain Sim made my eye start twitching whenever I see a 757 for FS, lets hope it wont be another one of those...


Do not abort a takeoff because a cockpit window pops open!
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1405 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9139 times:

They have been developing it for quite some time now. The effort put into this product is tremendous to say the least. They're trying to get it to be perfect!


It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
User currently offlineUAL757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 806 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9136 times:

I have been following this, and trust me, it will be worth every penny!

User currently offline787seattle From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 9017 times:

The sounds and models are spectacular!


Student - KELN
User currently onlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3244 posts, RR: 45
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8957 times:

Their new website has been relaunched, www.qualitysim.com

Wow!

Looks beautiful!

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineLONGisland89 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 8657 times:

I am very impatient!

User currently offlineLONGisland89 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7922 times:

What is taking so long?!?!  hyper 

User currently offlineUltimateDelta From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2064 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7811 times:

Will the liveries and such be available for the beta version that was previously downloadable?


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User currently offlineElpinDAB From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 462 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7802 times:

Wow, that really does look great.

Does anybody what type of background the developers have? This doesn't seem like a rookie project, that's for sure.


User currently offlineYYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 7739 times:

I am really looking forward to this package. My PSS 757 is a heavy hit on frame rates, hopefully this is more frame-rate friendly.

Is there an expected release date?

Jason



If you don't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them.
User currently offlineRichM From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 796 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7677 times:

Looks quite impressive. I assume this will be payware?

I'm also keeping an eye out for the Level-D 757. It has been in the making for a longgg time now!


User currently offlineYYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7594 times:

A Level-D 757 is in the works?!?

When is the projected release date and any links you can provide?

Jason



If you don't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them.
User currently offlineRichM From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 796 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7577 times:

Quoting YYZRWY23 (Reply 13):
A Level-D 757 is in the works?!?

When is the projected release date and any links you can provide?

Jason

As far as I know, there's no release date. There's an announcement regarding the development of a 757 on the Level-D website. However, there's very little information about it as of now. It has been in development for quite some time though. No doubt it will be on par with their 767, (in terms of quality) if not better!

I would imagine the QualitySim 757 will be released before the Level-D 757. (seeing as they've got as far as releasing screenshots etc.) The 757 is my favourite aircraft in the real world, so here's hoping the QualitySim 757 will be a compliment to its real life counterpart.  

Happy simming  

- Rich

[Edited 2009-08-05 20:46:26]

User currently offlineYYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7544 times:



Quoting RichM (Reply 14):
he 757 is my favourite aircraft in the real world, so here's hoping the QualitySim 757 will be a compliment to its real life counterpart.

I certainly hope so as well. I try my best to get onto 757's whenever I can. Can't beat that powerful take-off. Which 757 addon do you currently use? I use Just Flight 757 which is good but a minor hit on frame rates.

Jason



If you don't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them.
User currently offlineRichM From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 796 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7512 times:



Quoting YYZRWY23 (Reply 15):

I certainly hope so as well. I try my best to get onto 757's whenever I can. Can't beat that powerful take-off. Which 757 addon do you currently use? I use Just Flight 757 which is good but a minor hit on frame rates.

Jason

I have the PSS 757 which was excellent, but doesn't support FSX, so I can't use that anymore. I also bought the CS 757, which I don't really like very much. When I do use FS, I pretty much only use the Level-D 767-300. (Even though my flights rarely exceed 2hrs!) I would get the PMDG 747 or the MD11 (as I know they're top notch) but I think that'd be rather silly considering I only do short flights lol.

- Rich


User currently offlineYYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7423 times:



Quoting RichM (Reply 16):
I would get the PMDG 747 or the MD11 (as I know they're top notch) but I think that'd be rather silly considering I only do short flights

Even though you only do short flights, they will still be fantastic to fly. I very recently acquired the PMDG MD-11 and did the tutorial LHR-ZRH and was astonished at how amazing it was. I could engage the a/p at 400ft AGL and leave it on with a/t until turning off the rwy in ZRH. I usually conduct manual landings, but the purpose is to teach full automation.

I also own the PMDG 747, which is excellent!

If you have the $$$, these models are terrific. I do real world ops but if your using a 763 on 2 hour legs, who says the 747 or MD-11 couldn't be a last minute equipment sub.  Silly

Happy simming.

Jason



If you don't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them.
User currently offlineLASoctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5697 times:

It seems that they are nearly done and ready to release. Awesome!

http://forum.qwsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=408



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User currently offline787seattle From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5690 times:



Quoting LASoctoberB6 (Reply 18):
It seems that they are nearly done and ready to release. Awesome!

 hyper  Exciting! I'm not gonna get it immediately so I can see what others have to say about fps and so they can review it.



Student - KELN
User currently offlineCamiloA380 From Sweden, joined Feb 2008, 486 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5665 times:

Alright, its released! I'll definitely but it.

CamiloA380  Smile  airplane 



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User currently offlineElpinDAB From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 462 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5619 times:

I bought it, and I'm pleased with it.

Like they say, it doesn't simulation certain systems as in-depth as, say PMDG or Level D, but it does a good job, overall, though I haven't played too much with anything. The visual model is superb though, as was expected after seeing all of their screenshots. I downloaded about half of the available liveries on their list, and installed them in about 10 minutes after I installed the aircraft itself, and the process was flawless. My only complaint about the installation was, when I first started FS9 after installation, I received about 10 prompts to activate the product. Upon clicking on all of them, FS9 shut down. I though this was a bad sign, but I restarted FS, and it worked perfectly, with my QS 757 present with every livery I had installed.

All I have done so far is one flight, but I'll give my impressions for this flight. I currently have the CaptainSim 757 to compare, along with add-ons from almost every reputable company, including PMDG, Level-D, Wilco/Feelthere, Eaglesoft, Flight1, Alpha, PSS, and know a fair bit about Flight Sim and aircraft handling in general. First, this gave my system a larger hit in frame rates than any other add-on I own. This was a little disappointing, although, locked at 22fps on my system, I was able to maintain about 21 fps most of the time around busy airports, except for places where I have extensive add-on scenery. Upon takeoff at one such airport, I experienced a consistent 20 fps, with occasional drops to 18 fps for a brief time, until I reached 1,000ft or so. I also recently purchased Wilco's ERJ vol2, and it gave my system a large hit too, but not quite as much as this. My initial impression is that takeoff performance was on par with what it should be, however, climb performance was probably a bit optimistic. I loaded a 752 with winglets to MTOW and took off at an airport 500ft MSL with a temp of 80F, and she climbed at around 5-6000fpm. This is probably a bit too high, which was disappointing. Then, I climbed directly to FL410, maintaining 2000fpm at 310kias until around FL340, where I transitioned to Mach hold mode on the A/P, and decelerated to .78 for the remainder of the climb, maintaining greater than 1500fpm until Fl410, which is probably unrealistic at MTOW. Cruise was more accurate, and the descent seemed reasonable. Overall, I enjoyed the flight characteristics, and they were crisp and well-tuned. My only complaint is the climb performance. I might even open my aircraft.cfg to re-tune these. Climb performance is a huge deal for me when it comes to FS aircraft. This plays a vital role in aircraft tuning, and shouldn't be overlooked. I tested the climb on a standard 757 without winglets under the same conditions, and it performed similarly. A MTOW takoff at 80F shouldn't require just 6,000ft of runway, and require 20 degrees pitch up to maintain V2+30 or 40, and then 15 degrees nose up after flaps retraction and a power reduction to approx 90% N1 to maintain 250kias! This is unreasonable. Although, I didn't read the manual beforehand, and recommended power settings might dictate more accurate takeoff performance, but this still seemed a little off the mark.

The autopilot performed ok.. It had some of the features that I like about other add-ons, and was programmed to fully replicate the real thing, although it was probably a bit too "jerky" for the real thing while leveling off at various altitudes. Otherwise, that was good. The autothrottle seemed to perpetually maintain about 5-10 kias less than programmed on climb, and about the same greater on the descent than it should have, even when the engines were producing thrust to maintain the commanded function. This could be overcome by setting 5-10kias higher/lower than desired to achieve results, but this needs to be fixed too, imo.

I'm sure Quality Wings will release a service pack when they are able to collect data on known issues and resolve them, but this is my initial reaction to the product. I like it, and it looks good. Hopefully they will be able to resolve these issues that I have mentioned. The model looks slightly better than my Captainsim model, and the liveries are perfect and abundant. All that lacks are fictitious liveries :P

Having flown transport category aircraft in person, I'd probably recommend the flight dynamics of the Captain Sim 757 (although the CS 757 has any uncanny ability to perform shot field landings...) over the Quality wings version, but the QW 757 is a nice product. I love the model, the VC, and the soundset. These are flawless, and better than any other 757 addon.

[Edited 2009-12-07 01:27:01 by elpinDAB]

User currently offlineKimberlyrj From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5196 times:

Hi

For me I am still unconvinced unless it’s PMDG or Level-D. I like the modelling of all systems, as FS is meant to be as real as it gets surely our add on’s should be as well!?

I do admit in part it comes down to cost. For example, if not all systems are modelled than the product should not cost that much – not matter how pretty it looks on the outside...

Kimberly

Happy New Year  Smile


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