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Best Video Card For FSX?  
User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 39
Posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 20030 times:

Hi,

My old video card just died today by the look of things - I'm in the market for a new one.

My current computer is (minus the dead 8800 GTX):

- Intel Core 2 Quad QX6700 Extreme 2.66ghz
- Intel Desktop Board D975XBX2 (PCI-E X16)
- 2gb RAM
- Windows XP Pro SP2
- Apple Cinema Display A1081 20" at 1680x1050
- 750W PSU

I always run FSX at top resolution at near 20-30fps, so I'd like one that lets me do the same, or much better if possible.

I've been reading about ATI Radeon HD 5870, the fastest video card ever - so some people write, is it worth the hype?

Also looking at a 1792mb Asus GTX295 - would this be better?

[Edited 2009-10-17 23:28:04 by cpd]

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User currently offlinePHBUF From Netherlands, joined Mar 2009, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 20034 times:

I personally am very biased towards NVIDIA, but that's a personal issue..I would definately go for a GTX280/285/290/295. The 285 is my favourite to be honest, just a tiny bit slower than 290/295 while costing a LOT less.

User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 39
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 20033 times:

I might also add, I also require that the video card respect my colour management (a Spider2Pro), since I do a lot of photography that ends up on this site.

I'm familiar with Nvidia, but ultimately, I'm after best value for the money, and all options appear to be much cheaper than the old 8800GTX that I purchased 4 weeks before it was released.

Budget isn't too much of a worry, I just want the best option that will run reliably.  Smile


User currently offlinePHBUF From Netherlands, joined Mar 2009, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 20026 times:



Quoting Cpd (Reply 2):
I'm after best value for the money



Quoting Cpd (Reply 2):
Budget isn't too much of a worry

well no offense but I do think these statements kinda contradict eachother..if you want the best there is, get the GTX295 or the HD5870..if you want the best value for the money, get a GTX280/285 or ATI's equivalent.

I can recommend www.anandtech.com and www.tomshardware.com for nice reviews and comparisons.


User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 39
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 20023 times:

Thanks for picking apart my post. I'll think I'll go with the GTX285, the 295 seems like plenty of complication, with no benefit for the extra cost.

If I were to go to Windows 7 Ultimate at the same time, will I be able to get uianimationcore.dll from Vista somewhere? This is required to fix an FSX issue in Windows 7.


User currently offlinePHBUF From Netherlands, joined Mar 2009, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 20021 times:

Uhhmm I don't know, I'm running Vista but I've never heard of that dll file I'm afraid..I'll check at home if I can find that file somewhere

User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 39
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 20013 times:

People have been trying FSX on the RC versions of Windows 7, and, the results weren't good - plenty of crashes.

The fix for Windows 7 RC involves copying the Vista version of that DLL to the FSX folder, and then registering the DLL in a manner so that it is recognised by FSX. Maybe, just maybe, MS will have solved the issue by the time Windows 7 is out (due in a few days in Australia).

Some people aren't affected by it however - so it could well be just people using unstable pre-release versions of Windows 7.

OKAY: I've placed the order for a Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 5870. It appears to be best value of the new cards, and really quick for everything else. I'll upgrade to Windows 7 Ultimate in a later step, once I audit all the software I've got - and work out which will work, and which ones might not.

[Edited 2009-10-18 06:46:33 by cpd]

User currently offlinePHBUF From Netherlands, joined Mar 2009, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 19997 times:

Alright, hope you enjoy the new card, let us know how things turn out  Smile

User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 15 hours ago) and read 19975 times:



Quoting PHBUF (Reply 7):
Some people aren't affected by it however - so it could well be just people using unstable pre-release versions of Windows 7.

I never had the problem neither W7 beta nor the RC...

The 5870 is a Direct X 11 card, so you have invested into the future...


User currently offlinePHBUF From Netherlands, joined Mar 2009, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 15 hours ago) and read 19975 times:

Just to be clear, that wasn't my quote  Wink

User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 14 hours ago) and read 19974 times:

Sorry yes, no idea how the software mixed these...

User currently offlineKevinL1011 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 49
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 19863 times:

Whatever card you choose, just be sure to have a sufficient power supply (especially if using multiple controls) and plenty of cooling! Even the best card will choke when it gets hot or starved for power.


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User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 19821 times:



Quoting Cpd (Thread starter):
I've been reading about ATI Radeon HD 5870



Quoting Burkhard (Reply 8):
The 5870 is a Direct X 11 card, so you have invested into the future...

I'm a loyal ATI user BUT ATI cards perform notoriously slower in FSX than compared to NVIDIA. I'm running dual 4870s (formerly the fastest video cards out there) and FSX would rarely go over 20FPS (I will confess I was fully maxed out) but still, all my other games, and much MUCH more complex ones at that, run like a dream with these two cards fully maxed out, I rarely see under 40FPS in all my other games. From what I've researched ATI cards just don't like FSX's crummy graphics engine for whatever reason and NVIDIA cards support it somewhat better. But I'm not about to change my two great cards over one poorly made game. Besides, I have FS9 so tweaked out it looks better than FSX and if I take the FPS limiter off it sometimes peaks at 400FPS  eyepopping 

Anyways, I too am considering getting a pair of 5870s once prices go down a bit, I'm hoping they'll handle FSX better. Let us know how it runs for you.


User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 39
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 19816 times:

I'm still waiting - the video card is on back-order.  

Maybe during the week I might get it...

I'm mainly not going NVidia because it seems the currently available ones will be superseded shortly and I need a video card now, rather than whenever the next-generation NVidia is released.

Speaking of those sorts of things, anyone tried the solid-state drives? I'm looking at some Intel ones that look quite interesting. Might be another way to unlock more performance. Maybe I just do an incremental upgrade of the whole lot.

Thinking of something like

Intel® Desktop Board DX58SO
Intel Core I7 - 920 2.66ghz
Corsair 6GB Twin3X 240-pin DDR3 1333Mhz PC-10600 Triple Pack (3x 2048mb sticks) w/heat spreader, 7-7-7-20
ATI Radeon HD 5870
Seasonic M12D 850w PSU (modular cable variety)

That should do for the moment. I have the Antec P180 case that does have very good cooling properties, plus I'm very skilled at cable origami, so my PC's tend to be very neat inside.

[Edited 2009-10-24 21:14:49 by cpd]

User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 19785 times:



Quoting Cpd (Reply 13):
Might be another way to unlock more performance.

According to Tom's Hardware, SSDs only give a negligible improvement in speed over normal HDDs. The only real advantage they have (so far) is in paper only. In practice, not so much.


User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 39
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 19777 times:

Thanks - decided against one of those on high cost. The rest is:

ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB, 850mhz/4800mhz
Intel Core i7 920 2.66ghz LGA1366
Intel Desktop Board DX58SO LGA-1366
6GB Corsair DDR3 ram
Corsair 1000W PSU
Thermalright Ultra 120 cooler (with 2 120mm low speed/quiet fans)
Windows 7 Ultimate


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