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AirSimmer A320 For FS9 Released!  
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24
Posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6713 times:

Surprised I was the first to post this:

http://www.airsimmer.com/support/index.php?showtopic=4987

NICE! Big grin

35 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8992 posts, RR: 45
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6681 times:



Quoting AirPacific747 (Thread starter):
Surprised I was the first to post this:

Not as surprised as I am...

New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line? (by Kimberlyrj Sep 27 2009 in Aviation Hobby)

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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6676 times:



Quoting David L (Reply 1):

Boo! It deserves its own thread!  Wink

User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8992 posts, RR: 45
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6669 times:

Yes, I thought about starting a new thread but we'd just been discussing it and it was less effort to just post a reply.  Smile

I'd tell you all about it but my FS9 keeps throwing a wobbly.  Sad

User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6668 times:



Quoting David L (Reply 3):

Aww okay.. would like to hear peoples opinions about it and whether just to get the basic package or the pro package.. and what it's like since, according to airsimmer, it is not yet really finished but they were "forced" to release it due to lack of money.

User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8992 posts, RR: 45
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6663 times:



Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 4):
according to airsimmer, it is not yet really finished but they were "forced" to release it due to lack of money.

They claim the bugs are not serious and that they'll be fixed in free updates. I managed to get into a "cold and dark" flight deck, get it powered up and have a look around yesterday. The little I've seen of it myself is very impressive. The quality is way better than PSS and, assuming no serious bugs, probably at least on a par with PMDG.

Meanwhile I'm reinstalling FS9, FS9.1 and the A320. So much for spending all weekend actually using it.  sarcastic 

User currently offlineWilax From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 465 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6623 times:

Do we not have enough A320's? ...PIC, IFDG, PA....

How about an Embraer 175/195? an A321 perhaps? some winglet updates for the 733, 753, 763??? a CRJ1000? .........gimme something I can use.....

It's like getting socks for Christmas.... Thanks.....

User currently offlineLuftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 957 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6610 times:



Quoting Wilax (Reply 6):
Do we not have enough A320's? ...PIC, IFDG, PA....

Yes and no, the aircraft you mentioned are solely exterior models without any systems and AirSimmer aims at producing an in-depth simulation for the Airbus which nobody has achieved so far.

Quoting Wilax (Reply 6):
How about an Embraer 175/195? an A321 perhaps? some winglet updates for the 733, 753, 763??? a CRJ1000? .........gimme something I can use.....

E175/E195 would be nice, I agree, it's a pity wilco/feelthere never bothered adding them to their E170-E190 addon. The A321 will eventually be featured in the AirSimmer package, and you may not have to wait for winglet updates for certain Boeings too much longer.
The B767 is being redevloped by Project Opensky while Level-D works on a B752. I assume either aircraft will be equipped with winglets. About the 737 Classic... well, it seems like nobody is targeting at them as of now. We will see.


Et là tu montes encore plus haut et ça persiste, alors on vole
User currently onlineCamiloA380 From Sweden, joined Feb 2008, 420 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6606 times:
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Cool A320, hope that they also develop the A321 and as Wilax said, wingleted 767s wouldn't be bad.

CamiloA380  airplane 


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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6605 times:



Quoting CamiloA380 (Reply 8):
and as Wilax said, wingleted 767s wouldn't be bad.

CaptainSim has made a B767 with winglets.. it should be quite realistic.. on par with the LDS from what I've read...

User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8992 posts, RR: 45
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6575 times:



Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 7):
AirSimmer aims at producing an in-depth simulation for the Airbus which nobody has achieved so far.

 checkmark  The AirSimmer 320 is as much "yet another 320" as PMDG's 744 is "yet another 744".  Smile

My FS9 problem is sorted. Ironically, it was caused by a PMDG file that was lying around in my (very) old "FS9 files" folder from a long since uninstalled FS9. D'oh!

User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2396 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6563 times:

Have anyone tried Air Simmer A320 yet?! What's your opinion about basic version?

Fatmir


DO FLIGHTS. NOT FIGHTS.
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6539 times:

I just purchased it but looking for the liveries.. does anyone know where I can find them?

User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8992 posts, RR: 45
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6513 times:



Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 11):
Have anyone tried Air Simmer A320 yet?! What's your opinion about basic version?

I've tried the tutorial flight from Blagnac to NIce but the localiser isn't aligned with the runway so you have to land manually. I'll try an autoland tomorrow.

You should be aware that there is some functionality that isn't included in the Basic version, e.g. some of the MCDU functions, such as Fuel Prediction and Progress. I'm sure I'll find others. What you can do is start everything up from a cold/dark cockpit (via ground power or APU), enter a flight plan with SIDs and STARs into the FMGC, go through the correct engine start procedures and fly the route entirely on automatics (autoland is a "maybe", of course") or manually.

There's a custom pushback feature, initiated from the MCDU, but I didn't get the turn to work and the pushback didn't actually start until after the ground crew announced that it was finished. I must be doing something wrong.

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 12):
I just purchased it but looking for the liveries.. does anyone know where I can find them?

You need to use the Tablet PC, which will be installed with the A320. By default there will be an icon on your desktop for it. From the Tablet PC, you can download updates and liveries and it includes a load manager and a fuel calculator. It's pretty neat.

Take a look at these two documents:

A320 Basic Edition Quick Start Guide - helps with the Tablet PC http://www.airsimmer.com/products/Documentation.htm

A320 Basic Edition Flight Tutorial
(can't remember where I got that)

User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8992 posts, RR: 45
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6510 times:



Quoting David L (Reply 13):
A320 Basic Edition Flight Tutorial
(can't remember where I got that)

Ah, found it again...

http://www.airsimmer.com/downloads.htm

User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4813 posts, RR: 49
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6494 times:



Quoting Wilax (Reply 6):
Do we not have enough A320's? ...PIC, IFDG, PA....

No.

Airsimmer's one was intended to be a very serious simulation. I tried it years ago when I was in Seattle. Met Zoya and Nikolay. They were next to the Flight1 people (who are an interesting lot).

I'm interested to see what A320 pilots here think of this one. I've not kept up to date with how they progressed since I left the FS community due to full-time work commitments and some other events.


Reheat Images photography, Sydney, Australia.
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6488 times:



Quoting David L (Reply 13):
You need to use the Tablet PC, which will be installed with the A320. By default there will be an icon on your desktop for it. From the Tablet PC, you can download updates and liveries and it includes a load manager and a fuel calculator. It's pretty neat.

Thanks! I will take another look at it then.

User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6473 times:

I just did the tutorial flight from Toulouse to Nice, and well, it was amazing! I was able to follow the tutorial completely step by step! It's a really nice aircraft!

User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2396 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6447 times:

I've heard some bad issues about basic version so I'll wait for the advanced one or even for Aerosoft airbus project.


DO FLIGHTS. NOT FIGHTS.
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days ago) and read 6436 times:



Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 18):
I've heard some bad issues about basic version so I'll wait for the advanced one or even for Aerosoft airbus project.

Can you specify what issues?
I haven't noticed any except that my FS crashed at one point but dont know if Airsimmer is to blame for that.

User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5576 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6403 times:

I've been toying about with it and unless they get some bug fixes out the door fairly quickly, I'll be asking Flight1 (their distributor) for my money back.

So far I've seen some fairly annoying bugs (no external power, TabletPC load manager not updating loads/fuel, neverending pushbacks, all happening at random) as well as some cosmetic ones (startup sounds is acting very strange and occasionally you'll lose the ambient noises (such as A/C)).

All of which I could accept from a freeware group, but as something I've paid $40 for? No thanks. And then there's the whole debacle, about whether or not we will be allowed to upgrade the basic version to the advanced one, once the latter is released. Not to mention that it makes no sense at all; if they were really hard pressed for cash, you'd want as many as possible buying the advanced version - yet people are holding their wallets, since they don't want to pay for both the basic version and the advanced version further down the line.

I'll agree though, when it does work, it's a really great panel and model.

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 19):
I haven't noticed any except that my FS crashed at one point but dont know if Airsimmer is to blame for that.

There's been a fair number of reports of CTD's with the Airsimmer A320, though as everyone's setup is most likely different, tracking down the culprit isn't exactly easy.

User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6400 times:



Quoting CPH-R (Reply 20):
(no external power, TabletPC load manager not updating loads/fuel,

I do get to use external power, so that seems strange. Also if you want to update the fuel live, just reset the flight. (thats when you normally update the fuel anyway)

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 20):
neverending pushbacks, all happening at random)

True, now that you're mentioning it, I've noticed that the pushback procedure seems very weird.

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 20):

There's been a fair number of reports of CTD's with the Airsimmer A320, though as everyone's setup is most likely different, tracking down the culprit isn't exactly easy.

The only thing I have installed in FS beside the airsimmer is the PMDG 747/F. Maybe that could help them...

[Edited 2009-11-15 22:10:43]

User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6385 times:

Just to add to the previous:

You get external power by requesting it via the MCDU. Press the MCDU/MENU(?) button on the MCDU during cold and dark cockpit and you should see a request page. Press the request button, and there should be an option for external power. Hope this helps.


The tutorial flight is very good, and it will teach you these things.

User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2396 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6378 times:



Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 19):
Can you specify what issues?

As I've been informed it's not completed yet! True?!


DO FLIGHTS. NOT FIGHTS.
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 6373 times:



Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 23):
As I've been informed it's not completed yet! True?!

Yes, true, but I thought you knew about some specific issues perhaps. All I know is they are only minor, except the FS crash that I had but which I don't know if it was caused by the Airsimmer A320

25 FatmirJusufi: Well, I think I'm going to wait for the advanced version, after there's no upgrade opportunity!
26 David L: Like AirPacific747, I haven't had those issues... except no ground power at Blagnac. I got external power at several other airports I tried. Yes, me
27 CPH-R: Which is what I've been doing, but pressing the Request External Power only seems to be working half the time
28 AirPacific747: Ok.. let me know if you will request your money back.. then so will I just kidding...
29 David L: Well, after several days I seem to have overcome many of the initial problems: Pushback: Seems to be fine if I start it from the 2-D cockpit view and
30 MPDPilot: So you have the Basic version? I am trying to figure out what kind of cockpit this thing before I go out and by the basic version and wish I waited f
31 David L: It's definitely going to be in the same class as PMDG... when it's finished. If they fix the major bugs by the end of this year, which they say they
32 AirPacific747: It is missing TOC and TOD on the PFD though which is a little disappointing. Also for the same reason, you have to start the descend manually.
33 MPDPilot: Thanks, I think I am going to wait. I have gone a long time without a 320, I am sure I can wait a little longer.
34 David L: I tend to start the descent when ATC tell me to, anyway - FS isn't very flexible in that respect . I think AirSimmer has discussed the fact that the
35 AirPacific747: Then you cant do the STAR
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