Aww okay.. would like to hear peoples opinions about it and whether just to get the basic package or the pro package.. and what it's like since, according to airsimmer, it is not yet really finished but they were "forced" to release it due to lack of money.
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8992 posts, RR: 45 Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6663 times:
Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 4): according to airsimmer, it is not yet really finished but they were "forced" to release it due to lack of money.
They claim the bugs are not serious and that they'll be fixed in free updates. I managed to get into a "cold and dark" flight deck, get it powered up and have a look around yesterday. The little I've seen of it myself is very impressive. The quality is way better than PSS and, assuming no serious bugs, probably at least on a par with PMDG.
Meanwhile I'm reinstalling FS9, FS9.1 and the A320. So much for spending all weekend actually using it.
Luftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 957 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6610 times:
Quoting Wilax (Reply 6): Do we not have enough A320's? ...PIC, IFDG, PA....
Yes and no, the aircraft you mentioned are solely exterior models without any systems and AirSimmer aims at producing an in-depth simulation for the Airbus which nobody has achieved so far.
Quoting Wilax (Reply 6): How about an Embraer 175/195? an A321 perhaps? some winglet updates for the 733, 753, 763??? a CRJ1000? .........gimme something I can use.....
E175/E195 would be nice, I agree, it's a pity wilco/feelthere never bothered adding them to their E170-E190 addon. The A321 will eventually be featured in the AirSimmer package, and you may not have to wait for winglet updates for certain Boeings too much longer.
The B767 is being redevloped by Project Opensky while Level-D works on a B752. I assume either aircraft will be equipped with winglets. About the 737 Classic... well, it seems like nobody is targeting at them as of now. We will see.
Et là tu montes encore plus haut et ça persiste, alors on vole
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8992 posts, RR: 45 Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6575 times:
Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 7): AirSimmer aims at producing an in-depth simulation for the Airbus which nobody has achieved so far.
The AirSimmer 320 is as much "yet another 320" as PMDG's 744 is "yet another 744".
My FS9 problem is sorted. Ironically, it was caused by a PMDG file that was lying around in my (very) old "FS9 files" folder from a long since uninstalled FS9. D'oh!
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8992 posts, RR: 45 Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6513 times:
Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 11): Have anyone tried Air Simmer A320 yet?! What's your opinion about basic version?
I've tried the tutorial flight from Blagnac to NIce but the localiser isn't aligned with the runway so you have to land manually. I'll try an autoland tomorrow.
You should be aware that there is some functionality that isn't included in the Basic version, e.g. some of the MCDU functions, such as Fuel Prediction and Progress. I'm sure I'll find others. What you can do is start everything up from a cold/dark cockpit (via ground power or APU), enter a flight plan with SIDs and STARs into the FMGC, go through the correct engine start procedures and fly the route entirely on automatics (autoland is a "maybe", of course") or manually.
There's a custom pushback feature, initiated from the MCDU, but I didn't get the turn to work and the pushback didn't actually start until after the ground crew announced that it was finished. I must be doing something wrong.
Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 12): I just purchased it but looking for the liveries.. does anyone know where I can find them?
You need to use the Tablet PC, which will be installed with the A320. By default there will be an icon on your desktop for it. From the Tablet PC, you can download updates and liveries and it includes a load manager and a fuel calculator. It's pretty neat.
Cpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4813 posts, RR: 49 Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6494 times:
Quoting Wilax (Reply 6): Do we not have enough A320's? ...PIC, IFDG, PA....
No.
Airsimmer's one was intended to be a very serious simulation. I tried it years ago when I was in Seattle. Met Zoya and Nikolay. They were next to the Flight1 people (who are an interesting lot).
I'm interested to see what A320 pilots here think of this one. I've not kept up to date with how they progressed since I left the FS community due to full-time work commitments and some other events.
AirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24 Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6488 times:
Quoting David L (Reply 13): You need to use the Tablet PC, which will be installed with the A320. By default there will be an icon on your desktop for it. From the Tablet PC, you can download updates and liveries and it includes a load manager and a fuel calculator. It's pretty neat.
AirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24 Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6473 times:
I just did the tutorial flight from Toulouse to Nice, and well, it was amazing! I was able to follow the tutorial completely step by step! It's a really nice aircraft!
CPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5576 posts, RR: 4 Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6403 times:
I've been toying about with it and unless they get some bug fixes out the door fairly quickly, I'll be asking Flight1 (their distributor) for my money back.
So far I've seen some fairly annoying bugs (no external power, TabletPC load manager not updating loads/fuel, neverending pushbacks, all happening at random) as well as some cosmetic ones (startup sounds is acting very strange and occasionally you'll lose the ambient noises (such as A/C)).
All of which I could accept from a freeware group, but as something I've paid $40 for? No thanks. And then there's the whole debacle, about whether or not we will be allowed to upgrade the basic version to the advanced one, once the latter is released. Not to mention that it makes no sense at all; if they were really hard pressed for cash, you'd want as many as possible buying the advanced version - yet people are holding their wallets, since they don't want to pay for both the basic version and the advanced version further down the line.
I'll agree though, when it does work, it's a really great panel and model.
Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 19): I haven't noticed any except that my FS crashed at one point but dont know if Airsimmer is to blame for that.
There's been a fair number of reports of CTD's with the Airsimmer A320, though as everyone's setup is most likely different, tracking down the culprit isn't exactly easy.
AirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24 Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6400 times:
Quoting CPH-R (Reply 20): (no external power, TabletPC load manager not updating loads/fuel,
I do get to use external power, so that seems strange. Also if you want to update the fuel live, just reset the flight. (thats when you normally update the fuel anyway)
Quoting CPH-R (Reply 20): neverending pushbacks, all happening at random)
True, now that you're mentioning it, I've noticed that the pushback procedure seems very weird.
Quoting CPH-R (Reply 20):
There's been a fair number of reports of CTD's with the Airsimmer A320, though as everyone's setup is most likely different, tracking down the culprit isn't exactly easy.
The only thing I have installed in FS beside the airsimmer is the PMDG 747/F. Maybe that could help them...
AirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24 Reply 22, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6385 times:
Just to add to the previous:
You get external power by requesting it via the MCDU. Press the MCDU/MENU(?) button on the MCDU during cold and dark cockpit and you should see a request page. Press the request button, and there should be an option for external power. Hope this helps.
The tutorial flight is very good, and it will teach you these things.
AirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24 Reply 24, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 6373 times:
Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 23): As I've been informed it's not completed yet! True?!
Yes, true, but I thought you knew about some specific issues perhaps. All I know is they are only minor, except the FS crash that I had but which I don't know if it was caused by the Airsimmer A320
Quoting CPH-R (Reply 20): And then there's the whole debacle, about whether or not we will be allowed to upgrade the basic version to the advanced one, once the latter is released.
I went on the assumption that there would not be an upgrade path since that's what they announced. However, they've since said they'll think about it. I had the choice of waiting for a complete version or spending a bit more and getting something workable now.
Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 23): As I've been informed it's not completed yet! True?!
CPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5576 posts, RR: 4 Reply 27, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6411 times:
Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 22): You get external power by requesting it via the MCDU. Press the MCDU/MENU(?) button on the MCDU during cold and dark cockpit and you should see a request page. Press the request button, and there should be an option for external power. Hope this helps.
Which is what I've been doing, but pressing the Request External Power only seems to be working half the time
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8992 posts, RR: 45 Reply 29, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks ago) and read 6255 times:
Well, after several days I seem to have overcome many of the initial problems:
Pushback:
Seems to be fine if I start it from the 2-D cockpit view and don't change the view until the parking brake's back on. I'll experiment with some other views but I seem to recall that changing view during pushback was an issue with FS9.
Unresponsive sidestick throttle/Engine rollback:
Several days ago I said I'd try an auto-land "tommorrow". It didn't go well
About 15 miles out, I'd switched on the LS and activated Approach Mode. However, on more than one occasion the thrust reduced correctly as I neared the runway... but continued to reduce to idle and stayed there. Shoving the thrust lever all the way up to TO/GA caused the thrust levers in the sim to move and I could hear the detent clicks (nice feature) but no engine power. I lost my life several times and often had a similar problem while taxying.
However, it seems the issue can be resolved by using F3 to increase the thrust temporarily and then the joystick throttle starts working again.
Since then, I've flown MAN-GLA, PIK-KEF, KEF-YYR, YYR-YHZ, YHZ-BOS. Thanks to FS9's ATC vectoring me to join the localiser way above the glideslope, I had to take over and land manually at YHZ and BOS. All things considered, I haven't felt this good about a new sim aircraft since the PMDG 744X and some features of the AirSimmer 320 are even better thought out. Can't wait for the full FSX version.
MPDPilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 867 posts, RR: 0 Reply 30, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6162 times:
I am trying to figure out what kind of cockpit this thing before I go out and by the basic version and wish I waited for the full version. I am looking for something along the lines of a PMDG type of setup is it there yet or should I be waiting for the full version?
One mile of highway gets you one mile, one mile of runway gets you anywhere.
It's definitely going to be in the same class as PMDG... when it's finished. If they fix the major bugs by the end of this year, which they say they will, then I'll be quite happy to use it until the full version is ready.
Even the Basic version has a lot of functionality. For example, you can start from a cold, dark cockpit, switch on the batteries and APU, programme a route in the MCDU (including SIDs, STARs and airways), start the engines with the correct procedures, set auto-brake to MAX, arm the spoilers, set your flaps, check the T.O. CONFIG, taxi out to the runway and, when you're ready to go, push the thrust all the way forward for TOGA thrust. The Pushback feature seems to work if you don't change views between making the request and re-applying the parking brake - I use the 2-D cockpit view for that.
As you move the throttle lever on your yoke/joystick, you'll hear distinct clicks as each detent is passed. For example, at thrust reduction altitude, you move the lever back slowly and you'll hear the FLEX/MCT detent and then the CLB detent, which is where you want to leave it.
Landing is quite functional too. You can "activate the approach mode" in the MCDU so that the FMGS will take care of keeping you at the appropriate speeds so all you have to do is operate the flaps, gear and (if being vectored, for example) the heading. Full auto-land is supported.
The only two major problems I've had are the engine roll-backs I mentioned above and the fact that you don't seem to be able to simply reload a saved flight in the air. When you do that, you have to set everything up again, including the MCDU. There doesn't seem to be an equivalent of PMDG's "save panel".
I would assume for now that you won't be able to upgrade to the full version if you buy the Basic version. If you don't mind throwing away $40 to get an unfinished, but still pretty good, version now and forking out in full for the Advanced version later, then go for it. Bear in mind that the major bugs should be fixed in a few weeks. However, if you don't want to "waste" $40 then you should probably wait for the finished version... although who knows how long that will take.
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