KLM672 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2577 posts, RR: 3 Posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 13718 times:
I had a plenty of time to wonder about this yesterday afternoon while watching my gf at her horse show. I am just going to start typing and see where this post brings me. Maybe, if I'm lucky, someone else has been in my shoes.
Much like me and my airplanes, my gf is really into horses. To her advantage, her whole family is into horses. I am just a person with a unfulfilled dream of one day being able to fly a plane. Maybe not for work, but being able to go out there and hop into a plane and fly it. I do have a few hours under my belt but not many-- 5 or 6 within a 5 year period. I never had the money to fly. The military route it out, I'm just not interested in it. My parents have never been supportive of my love of aviation. Whenever my mom asked what I wanted to be when I grow up I would say "a pilot". She would look at me and tell me to "be serious" and think of something else that I'd want to do. I've grown accustomed to driving to the airport by myself and watching airplanes or keeping my excitement to myself when we take off on a family trip. I still remember 5 years ago when I was snapping pictures of planes and my father snapped at me stop commenting "Don'tcha have enough pictures of planes???" I put my camera down and we left shortly after due to the others being bored.
I also remember that I could never comment on Herpa coming out with new airplanes. I use to be into collecting 1:500 Herpa Wings but whenever I'd comment on the newest model, they'd quickly diminish my excitement and told me to "save your money."
All these thoughts were racing around in my head as I watched my girlfriend on her horse and her aunt, uncle and friends of the family do "horse games" at a local stable. She is able to enjoy her hobby to the fullest because she has a horse. Granted, a PPL (+ other ratings) alone cost much more than a horse.
I am not sure if I'll ever get my PPL. Cost is an issue and I know working at a flight school isn't helping. A) They don't offer a discount and B) Working here I get to see all the people that get to fly and obviously the ones that are in my shoes (can't afford it) don't come in here. C) I wokr the desk and it feels a bit embarassing when customers ask if I am a pilot and I have to say "no". I get a funny "ok why are you working here then" look.
How can I "deal" with just having aviation as a hobby?
Just spotting and going on flight sim, getting the most out of that but not becoming a pilot?
Anyone else in my shoes in regards to the parents? Yes, yes I am 23 and do my own thing but as a child it sucked.
Now, I've just learned to keep my excitement to myself and will be doing that when we fly the A380 next month. General comments.
Burkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4519 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 13626 times:
Welcome in a large club! That is what many flight sim clubs etc are around. I missed the chances too when I was your age, and now more than twice than that and it still is my passion. I've decided to combine my passion for aviation and my interest and skills in computing that make my living to become a devlopper for flight simulation products. Make your own product, buy your girl friend a horse from the first sales, and she will be happy with you doing it for the rest of your common life. Just don't change the girl friends more often than you have to change the computers you ride, but you don't have time for that anyways ....
Well, that's the root of the problem, of course. Light sport aircraft are becoming increasingly popular. They can be less expensive to fly than standard GA aircraft. You might also look into flying ultralights.
Regardless of what you fly, though, make sure you're flying regularly enough to maintain proficiency. Given a choice between going up for an hour every 3 or 4 weeks or not flying at all, I'd recommend not flying at all, for safety's sake.
YXD172 From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 13455 times:
Quoting JamesJimlb (Reply 2): I am in a way in your shoes, i have wanted to be a pilot for so long, and i took my colorblind test, "Mr. Lightbody, I'm sorry to tell you, you are colorblind, you can't fly"
This sucks, because some people told me i can, and others told me I cant, so I have NO idea!
So aviation is solely a hobby for now, but maybe some day i will fly commericially, but that's doubtful.
The above might sound a bit like little ms. sunshine, but it's true
Well, I have some good news (and bad news) for you: YES, you can get a pilot's license even if you're colourblind! Chances are that your medical will not allow you to fly at night or with colour signal control (so the airlines and military are ruled out) -- depending on the severity of your colourblindness. I'd suggest going to see an AME to find out what restrictions would apply. Worst that could happen is that you'll be restricted to flying privately (making a very expensive hobby).
Radial engines don't leak oil, they are just marking their territory!
GEG From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 13411 times:
I am in close to the same boat as you. I have a Father that served 24 years in the Air Force. I have been around planes since I was born, I however do not qualify for military service. Due to that and the cost in pursuing it privately I am relegated to flight sims and photography at the local airports. I am lucky to have a supportive wife who understands my interest in aviation and one who tolerates it well. As far as the family not understanding you, well that is their loss i guess. However you should not have to feel like you are a closet aviation lover.
Good luck and as for the A380 flight, pictures man and lots of them.
TimePilot From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 13256 times:
No one around me is as interested in aircraft as I am. If I start talking about them people get bored rather quickly. My parents aren't interested in aviation, but they never discouraged my hobby.
There are two airports in my city that I can go to. The old one has lots of spotters, but they go crazy for military aircraft (which bore me, sorry.) It's great because landing aircraft pass directly overhead. The new airport doesn't have as good a spotting area, and none of the photographers seem very friendly.
I don't fit into the aviation hobby category very well ...
I shoot film, I dislike digital (and I don't have any big zoom lenses.)
I don't carry a radio thingy to listen to radio communications.
I'm not interested in military aircraft.
I don't care about tail numbers.
I'm not interested in different liveries.
I like listening to the sounds airplanes make. The louder the better!
*sigh* I wish I could have spotted 40 years ago ...
klm672 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2577 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6392 times:
What an old post. I am thankful for all the replies. The shoes are about the same now, though, although things are about to change. I am now 2,000 miles away from home. I live next to one of the biggest airports in the world- DFW, and go to Founder's Plaza once a week. I am looking into the sport pilot license (This is how I stumbled on this post, actually).
I am going to bump this back to the top. I realize its about 5 years old, but perhaps there are new members in these shoes that may benefit from this thread.
VapourTrails From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 1996 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6246 times:
Quoting KLM672 (Thread starter): How can I "deal" with just having aviation as a hobby?
Just spotting and going on flight sim, getting the most out of that but not becoming a pilot?
Yes, welcome to the club, a large club. Yes, I can relate to what you say. This is where A.net is really good and now in this century we can interact virtually with people across the country and across the world in real time with our interest of aviation. Now we even have live ATC and Flightradar24 at our fingertips - we point our electronic device at the sky to get the information about the flight overhead, and others go and do the spotting for us and post it online, even to places we know we would never get to visit. It has to find an outlet and believe me it is a lot easier with the Internet. I have been told I take too many photos, but I draw the line at obsession, don't like that word, that is others' interpretation. There is nothing wrong with a healthy hobby and a life balance of course, this is an exciting time to be an enthusiast.
Quoting KLM672 (Thread starter): Now, I've just learned to keep my excitement to myself and will be doing that when we fly the A380 next month. General comments.
Trip reports are good for this.
Actually I am wondering these days if people are getting their feed, that there must be a lot more aviation enthusiasts out there that are not actually joining the industry, because they don't have to be directly involved in it, to be involved so to speak.
Quoting Burkhard (Reply 1): I missed the chances too when I was your age, and now more than twice than that and it still is my passion. I've decided to combine my passion for aviation and my interest and skills in computing that make my living to become a devlopper for flight simulation products.
Not everyone can be a pilot, for many reasons. Those who made it would surely know how fortunate they are, not to mention along with a lot of dedication and hard work.
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"The aeroplane has unveiled for us the true face of the earth." -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
bully707 From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1043 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6201 times:
I grew up being surrounded by fighter bases...Twente AB to the west, Hopsten AB to the north, RAF Guterloh to the east and RAF Bruggen, Laarbruch and Wildenrath to the south...
So jets were all around and jetnoise and the occasional sonic boom were common in the 50s all through the 90s to the area I am from.
I always dreamt of being a fighterpilot once and fly the Starfighter...well that didn't happen...so scale models and looking in the sky were my hobbies.
Later I would join the German Airforce and through some unbelieveble circumstances I was able to get into the NATO E-3A aircraft and fly on them for 7 years.
While transitioning from being in the military to becoming a civilian again, I was able to get a job at an airport in Germany and become an Airport Duty Manager as well as being appointed as Aviation Safety Inspector by the local Aviation Authority...to do all that the Airforce payed for my training as well as the private pilot licence.
In the years since then I tried to get the Commercial Pilot Licence with all the bells and whistles but during the training decided to join another aviation authority instead and am now living my dream at a major German airport.
So I know how it feels to be in a hobby that you seem you just can't fully enjoy...but hey...life will eventually present possibilities that you need to see and leap at.
Keep your head high and the eyes wide open....! It is worth it!
"That's the good thing about the 707...it can do anything, but read!" Joe Patroni, Airport '70
northstardc4m From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3147 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (9 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 6153 times:
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I would say a good percentage of the members of this site are simple enthusiasts with no real flying involved beyond the as a passenger type.
I'm a Flightsim "developer" and long looong time spotter, not to mention a crew member here for ages. And despite saying for about 10 years that ill get my PPL, it never happened and probably never will with my current finances (not the getting it part, the maintaining it part).
So who cares? I have friends with the airlines including pilots, ops, bagsmashers... no one has ever talked down to me except the barbs about being on the wrong side of the fence for the best action watching.
My dad was into aviation since childhood too, granted I went much further that he did but for support it was never questioned.
As for the flight school thing, just lie a tiny bit and say "saving up to be"... you'll probably get better attitudes in response.
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.