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User currently offlineAeroplaneFreak From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 541 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12895 times:
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I was wondering if Air Crash Investigations had been renewed for a seventh series? I have heard no announcement?

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User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2441 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 12848 times:

I hope they'll not stop! Maybe they'll announce later coming next year.


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User currently offlineKimberlyrj From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 12624 times:

Hi

On National Geographic & National Geographic HD in the UK they announced that we would be seeing series brand new “still in production” series in mid 2010, they did not confirm what investigations would be produced though...

If I hear anything else I will post it on here

Kimberly


User currently offlineFerengi80 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12193 times:
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Quoting Kimberlyrj (Reply 2):
new “still in production” series in mid 2010

Thanks, Kimberly, look forward to seeing this new series! This is by far the best programme on NatGeo!

As for investigations I'd like to see covered, I'm very interested in Pam Am flight 845, which, although thankfully no fatalities, suffered serious damage on take-off at SFO on 30th July 1971. http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19710730-2

Also, the Lauda Air NG004 crash on 26 May 1991 is a very interesting case. http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19910526-0



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User currently offlineYYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12071 times:

I live in Canada so Air Crash Investigations is called "Mayday" and is aired on the Discovery Channel. Wikipedia says there will be a season 7 here starting on March 1, 2010.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mayday_episodes

7 episodes are listed with the specific event, and the 8th is still TBA

Episode 1: British Airtours Flight 28M
Episode 2: Air France 296
Episode 3: Northwest Airlines 255
Episode 4: USAir 1493/Skywest 5569
Episode 5: Korean Airlines 007
Episode 6: Chalk Ocean Airways 101
Episode 7: Air inter 148
Episode 8: TBA

They all look good, but I am really looking forward to 3-6.

YYZRWY23



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User currently offlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2915 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 11900 times:

Speaking of this show does anybody know if any other seasons are planned to be released on dvd?

season 1 already came out a while ago:

http://www.amazon.com/Mayday-Air-Dis...e=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1265920088&sr=8-2



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User currently offlinekimberlyrj From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 11879 times:

Hello all

To confirm for people in the United Kingdom we will also get our favourite show back on 01st March...

The new series (seven) will be available to Virgin Media & SKY customers.

The first showing will be on Mondays at 21:00 as of 1st March. It will be repeated on Tuesday morning at 00:00 and again at 16:00.

For Virgin Media users Nat Geo can be found on channel 230, plus one hour 231 and HD 232. The series will be added to Virgin Media’s ‘catch up on demand’ feature with in 24 (it can take anything from ten minutes to 48 hours) of its first showing. It will be uploaded to the on demand system in both standard and HD versions and will be available for seven days (from the day it was uploaded). It is unclear if the new series will be added episode by episode onto Virgin Media’s ‘TV Choice on Demand’ (you can find it by selecting TV choice on demand then list by channel and finally find the National Geographic channel. For those of you who have the ‘Plus’ box you can series link the show (press yellow) and it will automatically record (and save until you delete the programme) the entire series, even if the times are changed the box will adjust its recording time so you won’t miss a thing.

For SKY customers your channels are Nat Geo 526, plus one hour 527 and HD 543. Unlike Virgin Media you won’t have the catch up on demand feature, however if you have a ‘SKY Box’ you can record the show and series link it (be warned if the time of the programme is changed the ‘SKY box’ won’t automatically update the recording schedule like the Virgin Media Plus box does).

So series seven (and information such as time are subject to change and the accuracy of the information listed below may not be 100%)

Monday 1st March at 21:00
Air Crash Investigation: Manchester Runway Disaster - British Airtours 28M
How did a minor fire on the runway at Manchester Airport turn into a major disaster in which 55 people died? Investigate the 1985 catastrophe.

Monday 8th March at 21:00
Air Crash Investigation: Pilot vs. Plane - Air France 296
After colossal investment, the Airbus A320 crashed on its maiden publicity flight in 1988. Was it the fault of the pilot or the plane?

Monday 15th March at 21:00
Air Crash Investigation: Cockpit Chaos - Northwest 255
In the second-deadliest airplane disaster in US history, Northwest Airlines Flight 255 crashed on take-off. Could the tragedy have been avoided?

Monday 22nd March at 21:00
Air Crash Investigation: Cleared For Disaster - USAir 1493 and SkyWest 5569
On a busy night at LA International Airport in 1991, a Boeing 737 crashed into a building – leaving investigators with a grim recovery operation.

Monday 29th March at 21:00
Air Crash Investigation: Target Is Destroyed - Korean Air Lines 007
After a Korean Airlines flight fell into the sea in 1983, Soviet officials claimed responsibility – sparking an international controversy.

Monday 5th April at 21:00
Air Crash Investigation: name not known - Chalk's 101
As a Chalk's Grumman Mallard aircraft just takes off, the right wing explodes and the seaplane plunges into the sea. All 20 people on board die, now investigators have to find out what caused the catastrophic structural failure

Monday 12th April at 21:00
Air Crash Investigation: name not known - Air Inter 148
A French passenger airline crashes into the Vosges Mountains while circling to land at Strasbourg Airport. The crash kills 87 of the 96 passengers and crew on board.

Monday 19th April at 21:00
Air Crash Investigation: name not known -
Very little info about this one, however rumour has it that could be about one of three incidents
1. Britannia Airways – Boeing 757-200 BY226A - no one killed, aircraft skidded off runway while landing in heavy rain
2. British Airways – Boeing 777-200ER BA38 – no one killed, aircraft had engines fail on final approach, final report only released this week, so it could make sense that the final episode in the series is a good one
3. A total surprise....  

For people living in England here is a link for the series - information will be added in more detail shortly (I e-mailed and asked)

So looking forward to this series, I hope the graphics have improved!!! And having it in high definition through cable (so no weather interference) will make this series once to remember (and record on the Plus box)

There are a few pics here and some info, http://natgeotv.com/uk/air-crash-investigation.

Can't wait

Kimberly


User currently offlineYYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 11754 times:

Quoting kimberlyrj (Reply 6):
2. British Airways – Boeing 777-200ER BA38 – no one killed, aircraft had engines fail on final approach, final report only released this week, so it could make sense that the final episode in the series is a good one

I as well hope it is this incident, as it is relatively recent and an interesting one at that.

Quoting kimberlyrj (Reply 6):
I hope the graphics have improved!!!

Graphics have always been excellent here in Canada, must be because of different providers and channels.

New season in only 2 weeks, CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!

YYZRWY23

Cool note: I don't know where filimg for this show is done, but it appears Episode One (British Airtours) was filmed in Canada, province of Ontario (where I live). In one of the photos in the provided link above, it shows a firemen holding a child and the back of the fire truck is in the background, and you can fainly make out an Ontario license plate and its first 3-digits. Just a cool find, photo attached.

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User currently offlinekimberlyrj From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 11721 times:

Quoting YYZRWY23 (Reply 7):
Graphics have always been excellent here in Canada, must be because of different providers and channels.

I tend to find that the strobe and beacons were in the past put in the wrong place (strobes on the top of a Airbus A333) for the type of aircraft, the aircraft it’s self would look good – just the lights were in the wrong place and colours etc.

Kimberly


User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2826 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11710 times:

Quoting kimberlyrj (Reply 6):
The new series (seven) will be available to Virgin Media & SKY customers.

Thanks for all that info. Just need to pay the old Sky bill now...ah screw it I'll find it on youtube or something!



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User currently offlineYYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11709 times:

Quoting kimberlyrj (Reply 8):
I tend to find that the strobe and beacons were in the past put in the wrong place (strobes on the top of a Airbus A333) for the type of aircraft,

I still have a few episodes of the previous season on my PVR so I will go back and look. But I never noticed this personally.......

YYZRWY23



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User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2826 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 11683 times:

Quoting kimberlyrj (Reply 8):
I tend to find that the strobe and beacons were in the past put in the wrong place (strobes on the top of a Airbus A333) for the type of aircraft

Mmm, yeah, remember frowing at this once. I think it was the TS glider one. The graphics seem to have def improved though. Slightly off topic, but sometimes I wonder is there a subliminal tobacco advertisement in it    ...the investigators are always smoking in it! Watch the AA & TK DC10 episode, it's ridiculous! OK, I am just joking. It's generally an unobjective, interesting programme.



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User currently offlinekimberlyrj From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 11652 times:

Quoting YYZRWY23 (Reply 10):
I still have a few episodes of the previous season on my PVR so I will go back and look. But I never noticed this personally.......

YYZRWY23

It was the Air Transat series and there have been a few others for example the other one I can think of is the Swiss Air MD11 but as ‘aerdingus’ said over the years the graphics and the more technical issues (lights, where and each aircraft they go and what colour they are) have got better.

One other item that disappoints me is the flight decks and cabins. You can clearly see the cabin looks to be airbus on all the episodes. The flight decks are often totally wrong and have, in the earlier days look horrid at time – but once again this can depend on what type of aircraft they are in. For example on the Delta L1011 DFW the flight deck must have been from a Boeing 747, as there were four throttles (and gauges). It varies greatly but the ‘fact’ part of the show is always sound and to me that is the most important thing.

I am really excited about the new series, my Virgin Media Plus box (its a cable box which has a hard drive in it which can record any programme shown on any network) as long as it’s on Virgin Media had tons of channels! Yay

Kimberly


User currently offlineFabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11643 times:

Quoting kimberlyrj (Reply 12):
One other item that disappoints me is the flight decks and cabins.

This part was VERY disappointing for me in IFO-21 crash in Dubrovnik episode I watched recently. While outside graphics showed 732, interior was a widebody one, and flightdeck was quite impossible to identify. Add to that "listening" to NDBs and I was pretty disappointed.



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User currently offlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2915 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11641 times:

Quoting Fabo (Reply 13):
This part was VERY disappointing for me in IFO-21 crash in Dubrovnik episode I watched recently. While outside graphics showed 732, interior was a widebody one, and flightdeck was quite impossible to identify. Add to that "listening" to NDBs and I was pretty disappointed.

If you notice carefully the first few seasons has excellent production values in regards to cockpit detail and realism ( the United 747 decompression episode, and Air Transat flight 236) but lately they are using cheap generic cockpits and cabins to cut down costs. I hope that trend dosen't continue.



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User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4964 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11607 times:

Quoting YYZRWY23 (Reply 4):
Episode 5: Korean Airlines 007

I must have seen a few documentaries and read so much about that I though I has already seen it 

cant't wait for the new episodes!



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User currently offlineKimberlyRJ From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 11585 times:

HI there

Quoting Fabo (Reply 13):
This part was VERY disappointing for me in IFO-21 crash in Dubrovnik episode I watched recently. While outside graphics showed 732, interior was a widebody one, and flightdeck was quite impossible to identify.

Oh yes, that was HORRID - I know it can be hard but they sell the series to most of the western world and it would be a shame if they don't improve such important matters.

Looking at the preview for the first in the latest season, the British Air tours Boeing 737-200, I think I noticed the beacon on top of the fuselage flashed white, not red... I hope I am mistaken!

Kimberly


User currently offlineFlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 11415 times:

Well there was a period when the quality of graphics and the sets dropped (I think it was series 3), for instance they started using cockpits which were composed of screens behind plywood so "steam" gauges are clearly digital images. Look at the 757 cockpit on the DHL611 midair, which was series 2 strange considering I'm sure they had the 757 cockpit nailed during season one's Aero Peru episode.

On the plus side the production values are far better than seconds from disaster, which has always been way too melodramatic. Unfortunately ACI started to go a touch over the top drama wise in one of the later seasons, I hope they knock that off because it's one of the best shows out there.

As for the generic interior, well I think that they do an OK enough job if you overlook the standard United seats and the layout of the hat-racks.

Remember it's the media, expect gaffes just try to let the small ones slide.

Quoting YYZRWY23 (Reply 7):
Cool note: I don't know where filimg for this show is done, but it appears Episode One (British Airtours) was filmed in Canada, province of Ontario (where I live). In one of the photos in the provided link above, it shows a firemen holding a child and the back of the fire truck is in the background, and you can fainly make out an Ontario license plate and its first 3-digits. Just a cool find, photo attached

Great, though in the UK the fire brigade have a distinct uniform which doesn't look like that used elsewhere and in the 1980s it was even more distinct. Still not the end of the world though, I'm just glad they are doing this one   (though I really do hope they get it right).

With regards to the mystery episode, I hope that it's the Britannia 757 one, considering what happened I think it is important though it would most probably be the BA777 since it happened at LHR with mass media coverage etc...

Phil
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User currently offlineYYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11351 times:

Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 17):
though in the UK the fire brigade have a distinct uniform which doesn't look like that

See these are the standard for firefighters in Canada effectively. I think the ARFF at Canadian airports have different 'uniforms', and obviously crash trucks instead of the standard fire truck.

YYZRWY23



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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12428 posts, RR: 37
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 11310 times:

Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 17):
Well there was a period when the quality of graphics and the sets dropped (I think it was series 3), for instance they started using cockpits which were composed of screens behind plywood so "steam" gauges are clearly digital images. Look at the 757 cockpit on the DHL611 midair, which was series 2 strange considering I'm sure they had the 757 cockpit nailed during season one's Aero Peru episode.

I agree that the initial series had much more effort put into attention to detail, but I can only imagine that this contributed to the cost. I'm actually watching the Kazakh/Saudi mid-air collision episode and while it would be nice if both aircraft had more accurate cockpits, it doesn't really detract from the interest and the quality of the explanation given, which is very good. I think that this series is a landmark and provides excellent, amenable details - useful to the professional or the layman (like myself); if they have to cut costs in some way, without compromising on quality of the overall product, I think it's forgivable. I'd much rather see them continue this excellent series.


User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 11217 times:

Anyone know when the new series is airing in the US? I've been digging through Natgeo and Discovery and from what I gather it's called "Air Emergency" being aired on Natgeo. But all I could find were some old episodes being aired Monday morning with no info on the new episodes.

And why they opted for a pic of a parachutist for their "Falling from the Sky" (BA 009) episode is beyond me, lol.

natgeo


Quoting kaitak (Reply 19):
if they have to cut costs in some way, without compromising on quality of the overall product, I think it's forgivable. I'd much rather see them continue this excellent series.

  


User currently offlineYYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11157 times:

Quoting flood (Reply 20):
Anyone know when the new series is airing in the US?

Or in Canada on Discovery?

YYZRWY23



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User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10671 times:

Quoting YYZRWY23 (Reply 21):


at least it's on youtube already, quality is quite good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoi57MqZ6XA


User currently offlineCysafan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 10649 times:

I am looking forward to the mystery of recent tragedy of AF447 and ET407 that have not been solved!!

User currently offlinealwaysontherun From Netherlands Antilles, joined Jan 2010, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 5 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 10258 times:

Quoting Cysafan (Reply 23):
I am looking forward to the mystery of recent tragedy of AF447 and ET407 that have not been solved!!

Mmmm, the solution I don´t have, but there´s an episode on AF447.

For all who didn´t know this yet:

http://aci.110mb.com/

A great site run by a nice guy who gets his fair share of hassle from certain people that have $$$$ in broadcast rights!
More than once he had his links interrupted but the continues and he deserves our support!
A lot of Air Crash Investigation and aviation documentaries downloadable for "nowt"……..FREE!!!!
"New" episodes (can be old, but new on the site) are being added almost weekly!!!

And if I may add: http://www.planecrashinfo.com/
Another good site on crashes etc.

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User currently offlinephatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1353 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (4 years 5 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10207 times:

Just saw the first three season 7 episodes:

-British Airtours @ MAN: Should pilots be better alerted if there's a serious fire and they are not aware? It seemed the pilots were following protocol by following their checklist. Would a life-threatening situation override this procedure?

-Air France 296 @ Mulhouse: Nothing really new here. This has been well-documented in the past.

-Northwest 255 @ DTW: By far the ugliest of the three accidents shown so far. Has the airspace "imaginary boundary" been extended since this incident? It seems the pilots could have recovered from the stall had the lighting post not existed in its path. I wonder what the people inside the Avis rental car building were thinking when the right wing sliced through the roof. Also, I didn't know the plane slid partially upside-down in full take-off power down Middlebelt Road in Romulus, before impacting the railroad overpass.


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