A 747-8i and -8F model that will use the same flight characteristics as the -400 (for the time being) released before the end of the month, the NGX 737, the Dash-8 and what I've been waiting for for a very very long time, a PMDG 777!!!
Unfortunately it looks like they are steering away from FS9 so I'm going to have to "get with the times" and make the switch to FSX.
FlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5668 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 14 hours ago) and read 9187 times:
Seems like the Dash-8 will be like the J-41 too bad I love the D-8 but I am not a fan of no 2D Panel. Cant wait for the 737 and 777 though! Anyone know what type of 737ng are going to be included in base pack? Please say the 738!
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Lemmy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 251 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9046 times:
I've been out of the loop: Didn't PMDG announce an A320 a while back? If so, what happened to that?
After PMDG NGX will not be available for FS9 (AFAIK) I'm looking forward to switch into FSX!!!
Any information related FS9 compatibility for the next PMDG projects?
Csturdiv From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1254 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8856 times:
Quoting Cpd (Reply 7): You know exactly what plane I mean. It holds the airliner transatlantic speed records.
You didn't read my message well enough. I deliberately worded it because I knew that someone would say SR-71, and that someone else would say TU-144 - so I deliberately worded my message to exclude them.
Anyhow, it's Concorde. Good that we have the computer power to run FSX fast now - because otherwise, it would have been very difficult to fly such a fast plane (and have graphics redrawing keep up).
I'm really liking the line-up of quality addons that are coming soon.
YWGfarmer From Canada, joined May 2007, 38 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8793 times:
Actually it sounds like it will be the 747-8, apparently before the end of the month, then the 737 NG, then the Bombardier Dash-8 then the 777.
At first notice of this announcement I installed FSX and spent the last few days reading up on it and tweaking it. FSDreamteam KORD, 80% Ultimate Traffic 2 traffic, no settings below "high" and I get about 20 to 25 fps on approach using the 747-400X, which is apparently terribly hard on framerates. (I have them limited to 30 and with the default 744 it just stays at 30) They said the 747-8 has had tweaking done to it to get better FPS, so here's hoping.
My system is nothing to scream about either, Core 2 Quad Q6600, 4GB of PC-6400 (DDR2 800) and a GTS 250 1gb vid card.
I'm just very happy it works. Plus after installing REX2, FSX looks gooooooooooooooood.
Hmmm.... I wonder what the 2 unannounced projects are????
Can't wait for the 777 now the 737NGX is up and running, i'm guessing that they will at least do the 777-300ER as that is the "Newest" bird of the family, as they did with the 737 and 747 series!
Brendan03 From Australia, joined Aug 2005, 951 posts, RR: 4 Reply 20, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4875 times:
Quoting steffenbn (Reply 19): Hmmm.... I wonder what the 2 unannounced projects are????
I seem to recall back in 2005 or 2006, I'm sure I heard something about PMDG doing an A320 with people speculating that the A330 (or A340) would follow. I think I went to follow that up about a year or two later and the information had vanished.
It could also be a case of me getting my wires crossed as 2005 was a long time ago for me now, but I have to say, I have been wanting for as long as I can remember, a PMDG Quality (or even something that came close) Airbus package.
flymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5668 posts, RR: 6 Reply 21, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4871 times:
Quoting Brendan03 (Reply 20): It could also be a case of me getting my wires crossed as 2005 was a long time ago for me now, but I have to say, I have been wanting for as long as I can remember, a PMDG Quality (or even something that came close) Airbus package
Not 100% sure of the publishers name but I think it is simslab is doing a good A320. A good quality Airbus would be nice but I would rather see A) a 787. B) A classic by PMDG which they say they are not going to do since they dont sell well but man would I love a classic 742 or 727 or DC-10 from PMDG. C) Something like FSPAX, I think that would be #1 on my list. FSPassengers has really gone down with little to no support. It is a great idea and just imagine what the folks at PMDG could do with that.
Quoting steffenbn (Reply 19): Can't wait for the 777 now the 737NGX is up and running, i'm guessing that they will at least do the 777-300ER as that is the "Newest" bird of the family, as they did with the 737 and 747 series!
Since all the 777s are new I would imagine they will do just about them all, maybe not the 777-200 but. 300ER, 200F, 200LR, 200ER maybe even the plain 200 and 300 models. Looks like they will do just about all the NG's variants even including the rare 700ER
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Fabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 826 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (7 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4835 times:
Quoting flymia (Reply 21): I think it is simslab is doing a good A320.
If you are thinking FlightSimLabs, they are actually the PMDG people who left PMDG to pursue (among others) A320 as a different entity. Now I am not sure how much this is true, or if there exists a shared knowledge base between FSLabs and PMDG, but I will not put my money on anyone, not even PMDG, to make a really worthy A320 rendition, especially after AirSimmer fiasco.
Which is a shame, really, since A320 Family is the only one in the short-medium range jet family without a decent rendition. 737NG is of course the best covered with PMDG NGX and iFly currently dividing business, MD80 by Leonardo is more than good, and the Russian workhorse Tu-154 by Project Tupolev is often called the best freeware of all time (AND certified by OKB Tupolev - so you are in fact simming, not playing games)
But it seems that Airbus systems are hard, if not impossible to model properly, add to that rather dismissive attitude to simming by Airbus Industrie, and I am not really surprised by the fact.
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wilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 7997 posts, RR: 84 Reply 23, posted (7 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4816 times:
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Quoting Fabo (Reply 22): But it seems that Airbus systems are hard, if not impossible to model properly,
Indeed. With so many computers on board and so many things which work side by side and being checked and observed by the computers it is a very hard job. Even in real life the pilots don't always know what's going on or where did the famous Airbus quite came from: "What is he doing now? He never did that before!"
steffenbn From Denmark, joined Apr 2010, 220 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4810 times:
Quoting flymia (Reply 21): Looks like they will do just about all the NG's variants even including the rare 700ER
What i ment with "Newest" is that the did the 747-400 first, in the NGX they did the 738/739 - first and so on, so i surely hope that the first PMDG 777 is the 300ER version!
Brendan03 From Australia, joined Aug 2005, 951 posts, RR: 4 Reply 26, posted (7 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4813 times:
Quoting flymia (Reply 21): Not 100% sure of the publishers name but I think it is simslab is doing a good A320. A good quality Airbus would be nice
Admittedly, I lost most of my interest in FlightSim a few years ago due to the lack of decent Airbus addons. My style of FlightSim flying tends to be more Commercial Real-World Route Imitation.
For (rough) example: Qantas QF5 SYD-SIN-FRA - Boeing 747-400.
DEP SYD 1715
ARR SIN 0630
This means (Given I'm in the same timezone as Sydney) I'll be on the computer at 1530, Creating FlightPlans in FSBuild, Generating a load I suspect the flight might be taking (Usually 75% to 90% PAX/Cargo capacity) - Getting everything in order so that once my clock hits 1715, I shut the doors, Push back, start up and taxi to runway with real weather and what not, Take off, get into the Air.
The following day, I may do something like a Cathay Pacific flight to Hong Kong, or Continue the flight onto Frankfurt, Departing at Real time again.
Not having an Airbus package really restricts what flights I can do because I almost never 'substitute' with another Aircraft that isn't timetabled/scheduled on that route.
Back in my earlier days, I was actually quite fond of the PSS Airbus, despite it not being fantastic, I learned to make-do, but this was back before the days of the PMDG 747 or LevelD 767.
FriendlySkiesUK From UK - England, joined Jul 2011, 25 posts, RR: 0 Reply 28, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4779 times:
Quoting Brendan03 (Reply 26): Admittedly, I lost most of my interest in FlightSim a few years ago due to the lack of decent Airbus addons. My style of FlightSim flying tends to be more Commercial Real-World Route Imitation.
While I LOVE the PMDG products (Boeing & MD) I wish that PMDG would produce Airbus software for FS – I would not mind if that was the A320 family or the A330 family.
From what I understand a major problem with companies trying to develop Airbus products is that Airbus (EADS) does not assist in surrendering data/information to anyone in the FS community – unlike Boeing whom positively assist PMDG in their development of the Boeing 737 NGX etc.
If someone could produce an Airbus produce for FS which was to the high standards of PMDG I would buy it in seconds!!!!
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8992 posts, RR: 45 Reply 30, posted (7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4538 times:
With the delays AirSimmer have had, I'm sure they'd have mentioned problems getting the information when responsing to the complaints from impatient customers. Instead they cite difficulties in getting that information to work with FS as being the hold-up. I don't know how difficult it is to get information from Airbus but the commercial developers seem to receive it faster than they can implement it in FS.
The main problem with implementing a FBW Airbus seems to be that it behaves so differently from what FS was designed to expect. As a result, much more of it has to be done outside the FS framework.
AirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24 Reply 31, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3625 times:
Quoting wilco737 (Reply 27): only in the sim... and I stalled it intentionally
Must have been a crappy sim then.. not possible in the real aircraft in normal law
I prefer the Airbus as a pilot.. cockpit is much nicer and modern, and more oriented towards a high level of comfort for the pilots. It is much appreciated when you work a lot.
Quoting wilco737 (Reply 23): Even in real life the pilots don't always know what's going on or where did the famous Airbus quite came from: "What is he doing now? He never did that before!"
That's an old myth amongst Boeing pilots. Either that or the pilots got their license in a toy store. The matter of fact is that both the 777 and 787 use FBW technology as well, so Boeing is soon no different. So get used to the computers
Many MANY Airbus pilots tell me this thing. Basically everybody.
Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 31): The matter of fact is that both the 777 and 787 use FBW technology as well, so Boeing is soon no different. So get used to the computers
Good that I am "stuck" on the 744 for several years. So I can enjoy the real flying
AirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24 Reply 34, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3381 times:
Quoting wilco737 (Reply 32): No, was the LH sim. So no crap. If you know how, then you can stall it.
What did you do to stall it then? As far as I am aware of, it is only possible to get the stall warning. Big difference.
Quoting wilco737 (Reply 32): Many MANY Airbus pilots tell me this thing. Basically everybody.
Funny, I've not heard it from a single Airbus pilot. Only from friends flying the Boeings. Must be selective hearing :P
Quoting wilco737 (Reply 32): Good that I am "stuck" on the 744 for several years. So I can enjoy the real flying
With autopilot on? And with the hydraulic systems helping you to control the aircraft? There's not much 'real' flying over it no matter which commercial aircraft you are flying these days.
Also, I wonder why fighter jets use FBW technology and sidesticks if there wasn't any advantage using this.
AirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 24 Reply 35, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3367 times:
Just to clarify. I love both Airbus and Boeing and would also love to fly a Boeing some day. But I am convinced that the Airbus cockpit is the best. However I love the 747. It is the best looking civil aircraft in my opinion. But it is never a good idea to be so biased towards a certain manufacturer.
flymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5668 posts, RR: 6 Reply 36, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3352 times:
Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 34): What did you do to stall it then? As far as I am aware of, it is only possible to get the stall warning. Big difference.
Well AF has done it twice so.....
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wilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 7997 posts, RR: 84 Reply 37, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3365 times:
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Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 34): What did you do to stall it then? As far as I am aware of, it is only possible to get the stall warning. Big difference.
Can't remember exactly what we did, but we ended up in a stall and as we were at 100' we crashed :S
Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 34): Funny, I've not heard it from a single Airbus pilot. Only from friends flying the Boeings. Must be selective hearing :P
Don't know. Heard it many many times.
Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 34): With autopilot on? And with the hydraulic systems helping you to control the aircraft? There's not much 'real' flying over it no matter which commercial aircraft you are flying these days.
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