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Sga Md 80 Takeoff  
User currently offlineDLa320 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 22 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5952 times:

Has anybody had any problems with tailscrapping in the sga md 80 models, everytime i attemp to takeoff the back of the plane rides the ground for a while and then starts lifting off the ground. Is it just something that im doing wrong or is it the plane?

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User currently offlinealaskamd80 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 64 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5937 times:

Hi, did you remember to set the trim? that might be your problem...


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User currently offlineDLa320 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5934 times:

Quoting alaskamd80 (Reply 1):
Hi, did you remember to set the trim? that might be your problem...

How would i set the trim


User currently offlineusair330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 830 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5933 times:

Quoting DLa320 (Reply 2):
How would i set the trim

Makes me wonder.... Did you set the flaps for takeoff as well? Rotate speed should also be @ 145 knots, with those aircraft newayz..... (Not %100 accurate)


User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2774 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5932 times:

I think I know the problem you are referring to... I guess one way would be to increase the cruise lift scalar in the aircraft.cfg by 1 or so.


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User currently offlinekcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3845 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5923 times:

I haven't had any problems.

1. stop rotating so steeply
2. check your weights, make sure youre not over weight
3. Flaps ( you should be able to take off on the 2nd-4th settings) and trim. Your trim should be fine by default, that doesn't seem to be the problem since you're getting the nose up.


User currently offlinephatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5841 times:

Quoting kcrwflyer (Reply 5):
3. Flaps ( you should be able to take off on the 2nd-4th settings) and trim. Your trim should be fine by default, that doesn't seem to be the problem since you're getting the nose up.

Actually, the SGA/Erick Cantu T-Tail models (DC-9, MD-80, MD-90, 717, 727) require setting the trim for proper takeoff. User DLa320, please go into your FS2004 / FSX commands assignment and find what keys on your keyboard or joystick are used to set the trim. If you are doing this correctly, you should see your horizontal stabilizer move up or down.

The fact that he's getting lift tells me DLa320 is setting flaps, but without the proper trim, is resulting in a very long takeoff roll. Otherwise, we'd have a NW 255 on our hands......


User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3845 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5818 times:

Quoting phatfarmlines (Reply 6):
The fact that he's getting lift tells me DLa320 is setting flaps, but without the proper trim, is resulting in a very long takeoff roll. Otherwise, we'd have a NW 255 on our hands......

If he's dragging the tail down the runway then he's more than trimmed enough.


User currently offlineDLa320 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5800 times:

i always set the flaps so i know thats not the problem, its just fustrating that on some runways it take the whole runway and then some to get up

User currently offlinejohnkrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1400 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5762 times:
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Default trim is shift+1 (pitch up) and shift+7 (pitch down) if I'm not mistaken. I never remember which so I try both until the plane does what I want  


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User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3845 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5758 times:

Quoting DLa320 (Reply 8):
i always set the flaps so i know thats not the problem, its just fustrating that on some runways it take the whole runway and then some to get up

Youve never said, how much runway are you using? Also, make sure the plane isnt over weight.


User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7242 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5749 times:

Quoting DLa320 (Reply 8):
always set the flaps so i know thats not the problem, its just fustrating that on some runways it take the whole runway and then some to get up

Make sure your not overweight. If you are flying for example DFW-MCI you dont need 100% fuel maybe just put in 40% etc.. Change the passenger numbers etc.. If you are using large 8,000ft plus runways you should have plenty of room to takeoff.



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