CXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2436 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 16509 times:
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Does FlightDiary offer an option where one flight with an intermediate stop can be recorded as such, rather than two separate flights?
That's my issue with FlightMemory, which I'm using at present. I couldn't work out how to put down SIN-ICN-YVR as one flight. I've yet to try FlightDiary but I might switch over, depending on its features.
hawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3153 posts, RR: 8 Reply 11, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 15309 times:
CXB77L, I don't see a way of treating flights with an intermediate stop as a single flight on FlightDiary, OpenFlights, or FlightMemory. But I'd rater list them separately anyway, since some of the ones I've been on involved changing aircraft and seats.
I've had FlightMemory for a while and am mostly happy with it. The lack of standardization of airline names, types, etc., makes their aggregation of statistics somewhat less than useful, though as long as I keep my own data consistent my individual stats are reasonable. The inability to zoom the map does make regions with multiple airports a bit hard to read; in my case LAX/LGB/ONT/SNA/CLD/SAN is a big mess and I can't really tell which lines go where.
A while back I downloaded the OpenFights source code and set up a private installation on my own server to play with. I was able to save off the FlightMemory pages as HTML, which OF was able to scrape together to import. I like OF's ability to perform all sorts of searches of the flight data. I can easily get a list of all flights operated by a particular airline or aircraft type, for instance. But the whole thing feels a bit clunky, with the map always taking up a big portion of the window and other things in small frames along the side. Entering flight details feels clunky, too. But since I'm running my own installation (which required some hacking of the source code to get to work since it has some hard coded assumptions that its running on OpenFlights.org) which I haven't kept up to date, it's possible that they've improved the UI.
I recently imported my flights from OF to FlightDiary. As with the previous import, it required some going through to clean up; notably, arrival times were omitted. It also had some issues when I was dealing with flights involving PHX and Hawaii since their non-observance of daylight saving time was causing it to incorrectly compute the flight duration when I entered the arrival time. It was also awkward to work through my flight history, since it loads 50 flights at a time with a Load More button at the bottom, like Facebook and Twitter do, rather than 50 flights per page like FM. As a result, each flight I'd edit, save, then it would bring me back to the top of the list and I'd have to keep hitting Load More to get back to where I was. FM blends you back to the page you were on after editing an old flight. The detailed statistics for airline, airport, aircraft type are nice, but it would be nice to be able to see the flight details for them as well, not just showing them on the map. Overall the UI feels nice and modern, though I don't care for not having the flight details paginated. It would also be nice if they got rid of the Flash for the graphs; the animation is pretty but ultimately unnecessary, and they have a non-Flash version that is used when I load my profile on my iPad.
My bigger concern with FD though is whether its still being actively worked on. They haven't posted on their Twitter or Facebook in several months. I sent them some feedback a couple of weeks ago regarding missing airlines and they've yet to add them or respond.
In summary, FD feels the most modem, OF has the best search capabilities, and FM is best for dealing with unusual situations where the back end database is missing your airport, airline, or aircraft type. In other words, I haven't found the perfect site yet.
SRQKEF From Iceland, joined Jun 2011, 804 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (11 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 15231 times:
Definitely flightdiary for me, as in flightmemory you can't choose Iceland as your 'domestic' country. Therefore, my maps don't look good at all as most of my domestic flying is inside Iceland or the US which is on the wrong continent.
FD, on the other hand, offer great looking maps with nice looking statistics.
B747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 16825 posts, RR: 11 Reply 13, posted (11 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 15118 times:
Quoting CXB77L (Reply 10): That's my issue with FlightMemory, which I'm using at present. I couldn't work out how to put down SIN-ICN-YVR as one flight. I've yet to try FlightDiary but I might switch over, depending on its features.
But in reality, it should be counted as two flights. A flight is the same thing as a cycle which equals a take off and a landing. Even though it is sold as a one (through) flight, it takes two cycles to complete that route, therefore it should be counted as two flights.
Scooter From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 848 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (10 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 13805 times:
Quoting hawaiian717 (Reply 11): My bigger concern with FD though is whether its still being actively worked on. They haven't posted on their Twitter or Facebook in several months. I sent them some feedback a couple of weeks ago regarding missing airlines and they've yet to add them or respond.
This is my concern as well. FD is by far my favorite flight logging tool, but it is a bit worrisome that the developers don't seem to be very active with it.
CrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1731 posts, RR: 41 Reply 17, posted (7 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 10057 times:
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I'm still loyal to Flight Memory. I don't really care for FlightDiary and the CO2 statistics really look stupid to me. FM is nice and simple. I use it as a simplified version of my actual flight log where I keep more subtypes and technical details. I just use FM for the statistics and the maps. I know a certain Anetter who has taken flight for the sole reason of getting a new line on his map!
AirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2204 posts, RR: 22 Reply 19, posted (6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9288 times:
Do it like the pro's.. LogTen app on itunes store is an electronic logbook fully capable of replacing your physical logbook if you're a pilot. You can export your flights as a .xml file and take a look at them in Google Earth I decided to make a complete backup of my physical logbook a few weeks ago and spent a few days copying everything over.
I also use FD though so my family can follow my progress. I only log flights on FD where I was the pilot.
hawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3153 posts, RR: 8 Reply 23, posted (6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8491 times:
You have to contact them and ask them to add it. And thus the problem with FlightDiary: Nobody seems to be maintaining it anymore. They've yet to add or respond to the missing airlines I reported to them 6 months ago.