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FS9 Longhaul--too Fast? World Too Small?  
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17507 posts, RR: 45
Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8888 times:

I just flew DELIAD at Mach 0.82 at 36,000 and it took only 13 hours, when in reality the DELEWR/JFK nonstops take 1-2 hours longer on average. This is pretty consistent with most of the long haul flying in FS9--are the winds not strong enough? World too small? Flying too fast? I can't quite figure it out. On top of that it seems like the time change is almost always off by 1-2 hours. Noon westbound flights from the West Coast arrive in HKG 1-2 hours later on the clock, when it should really be 4-6 hours. I feel like it's all related--anyone else have the same issue?


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User currently offline9VSIO From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 717 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8881 times:
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What weather settings did you use? Default or real-world?


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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9032 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8860 times:
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The time zones usually are off quite often. Don't know why.

For the weather check that you use real world weather and check that winds aloft are downloaded as well.

What routing do you fly? Direct GPS? You never fly direct in real life, routing is always longer if you follow the airways.

Hope that helps a bit.

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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17507 posts, RR: 45
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8837 times:

Quoting 9VSIO (Reply 1):
What weather settings did you use? Default or real-world?
Quoting wilco737 (Reply 2):
For the weather check that you use real world weather and check that winds aloft are downloaded as well.

Active sky evolution

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 2):
What routing do you fly? Direct GPS? You never fly direct in real life, routing is always longer if you follow the airways.

I use FSNavigator to create a routing, which is probably closer to Direct GPS than in real life. I figured it looked sufficiently 'circuitous' with the FSNavigator routing rather than pointing the plane straight at the destination but perhaps not!



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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9032 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8798 times:
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Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 3):

Never heard of that active sky thing. I guess it is an add on.

FSnavigator I heard it is quite good, but never used it, so no clue.
The direct GPS is for sure off at times, as you fly shortest distance, which you usually don't do in real life. And due to winds you usually fly the minimum time track and not minimum distance track - simply saves fuel (which is irrelevant in FS)...

Do you take the flight times from the airlines' website?

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User currently offline9MMPQ From Netherlands, joined Nov 2011, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8533 times:

There's a number of variables in all of this of course.

The route FSnavigator plots for you may very well differ from the actual routes in use for the flights you are trying to mirror. If i sometimes compare my FSBuild routes to what some real life flightplans are doing they're always different.

Airways at certain times might not be available or the company might not have overflight rights for certain countries etc etc etc. Tools such as FSnavigator do not take such things into account. 1-2 hours off on what is in real life a roughly 15 hour flight then doesn't seem too bad.

I never really noticed time zones being off. I'll keep an eye on that on my next long haul  



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User currently offlinenighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5157 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8460 times:

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Quoting MaverickM11 (Thread starter):
I just flew DELIAD at Mach 0.82 at 36,000 and it took only 13 hours
www.gcmap.com quotes that DEL-IAD at Mach 0.82 should take 13:51 minutes, and bearing in mind that this is direct GPS, then this does indeed sound like FS is slightly off. In reality it should take longer than this due to wind, airport congestion and following airways rather than direct GPS.



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User currently offlinemdavies06 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 384 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 8004 times:

The default time zones for India and HKG in FS9 are off, so I always used to use UTC until I get them corrected using add on programs.

1 of the 2 examples you gave (West Coast US to HKG) the flight time varies by a wide range depending on wind condition. As you probabaly know LAX-HKG flights occasionally require an unscheduled fuel stop in the worst of times during the winter.


User currently offlinecc2314 From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 7836 times:

you can get an added program to fix the time problem in fs9,cant think of the name right now.

User currently offlinewoady From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 7819 times:

Just did a quick google, theres a prog called FS Real Time. Not used it or looked any more into it.


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