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User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9977 times:

Just heard that Airways Magazine changed hands and has a new publisher. Anybody an idea about who the new publisher is -- and whether there will be changes ?

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User currently offlinesk736 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 479 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9951 times:
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I still can't find the March issue in the UK - I hope the new publisher can work out how to ship the magazine to the UK more quickly than the previous publisher could manage.

User currently offlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2824 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9862 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Thread starter):

Just heard that Airways Magazine changed hands and has a new publisher. Anybody an idea about who the new publisher is -- and whether there will be changes ?

Where did you hear that ? Can you please tell us who the new publisher is ? I hope they don't start screwing around with the format.

Combat Aircraft monthly and Air Forces monthly now have the same ownership as of a few months ago and so far there have been no major changes.



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User currently offlinepsa188 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 494 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 9207 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Thread starter):
Anybody an idea about who the new publisher is

I think it's a rumor. The May issue, which I just got, still says it's published by Airways International in Sandpoint ID.

I don't see anything on the website either:
http://www.airwaysmag.com/


User currently onlineUA767400 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 9080 times:

I think they meant Airliners. Airliners has had some issues in delivering the latest issues

Nothing has changed at Airways


User currently offlinepsa188 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 494 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8980 times:

Quoting UA767400 (Reply 4):
Airliners has had some issues in delivering the latest issues


For the record, the publication "recently" renamed itself "Airliners & Airports," although use of the name was inconsistent as you can see at their website.

At last check, in mid-December, Airliners & Airports reportedly had an issue printed but held up "on the loading dock" for unspecified reasons. A quick check of http://www.airliners.tv/ shows the site still up showing the LH 747-8 issue as "current.

I have no inside information on this, but absent any response to sporadic emails in early 2013, I must conclude Airliners & Airports has most likely ceased publication.


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3034 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7675 times:

Quoting psa188 (Reply 5):
At last check, in mid-December, Airliners & Airports reportedly had an issue printed but held up "on the loading dock" for unspecified reasons. A quick check of http://www.airliners.tv/ shows the site still up showing the LH 747-8 issue as "current.

I have no inside information on this, but absent any response to sporadic emails in early 2013, I must conclude Airliners & Airports has most likely ceased publication.

I was about to call my credit card to get refunded for my subscription, but I figured I should call the magazine first to make sure they are in fact officially T.U.

To my surprise the call was answered, and I was told the same thing about a 'new' issue being held up on the loading dock. Probably missed some payments to the shipper. It was acknowledged the magazine is in default to its subscribers but I was told they are still officially in production. He then rambled on about how the publishing industry has changed since the launch of Airliners... even though there are actually more airline enthusiast magazines in print now than back then.



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User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2179 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (11 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7428 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 6):
He then rambled on about how the publishing industry has changed since the launch of Airliners... even though there are actually more airline enthusiast magazines in print now than back then.

I think this is the reason Airliners is struggling.

When Airliners launched in 1988, the only magazines targeted at airline enthusiasts were World Airline Fleets and Propliner, both of which were targeted at small subsets of the airline enthusiast community.

Now, Airliners competes with Airways and Airliner World, as well as this website. Very few airline enthusiasts want (or can afford) to subscribe to all three of the "general interest" airline magazines. Too many of Airliners' articles recently have seemed to be written by the magazine's advertisers, and Airliners' publication schedule has become more erratic, so I think when enthusiasts have to decide which magazines to continue getting, and which magazines to drop, many are choosing to drop Airliners and keep Airways or Airliner World.

Although Propliner is the most expensive of the airline enthusiast magazines, I think the reason it has survived is because it has stayed narrowly focused on piston and turboprop aircraft, and articles about the subjects it covers are almost impossible to find elsewhere.



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3034 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7401 times:

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 7):
Too many of Airliners' articles recently have seemed to be written by the magazine's advertisers, and Airliners' publication schedule has become more erratic, so I think when enthusiasts have to decide which magazines to continue getting, and which magazines to drop, many are choosing to drop Airliners and keep Airways or Airliner World.

Exactly and I think this is the reason Airliners is failing. Its not the digital revolution, but poor internal decisions relating to the magazine's content which has alienated its readers.

Airliners was the first of the current bunch, so if they stayed true to their purpose then I don't see why they couldn't have defended their market share and be as successful as Airways and Airliner World.



FLYi
User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (10 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7162 times:

Airliners just seems to be dead. Their Facebook page has been all but abandoned. Their website, as pointed out, is also out of date. I think its one of those situations where they just need to pack it in and call it good. Airways seems to be mostly stable right but that is probably thanks to their growing web properties. I finally decided to cut them loose this year. I normally always renew for 3 years but the value is gone. I get the news and stories much quicker online through various sources, that they really aren't needed anymore. I also find that they take too many liberties in push a bias, although subtle most of the time, in their storytelling that it is just a turn off. In one of the last couple issues I got, I got a chuckle of them saying Tom Horton is getting a promotion in the US/AA merger when we all know he's getting kicked to the curb - with a golden parachute of some sort of course (depending what they can get approved).


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User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2179 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (10 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7036 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 8):
Airliners was the first of the current bunch, so if they stayed true to their purpose then I don't see why they couldn't have defended their market share and be as successful as Airways and Airliner World.

Airways was launched after a disagreement among the founding owners / writers of Airliners over the magazine's strategic direction. Had the people responsible for Airliners' launch been able to agree on how the magazine would evolve, Airways would not exist.

Airliners' quality declined after Airways was launched, because many of Airliners' best writers started writing for Airways instead, and Airliners had to publish some weaker articles just to fill up space in the magazine.



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User currently offlinepsa188 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 494 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5987 times:

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 10):
Airliners' quality declined after Airways was launched, because many of Airliners' best writers started writing for Airways instead, and Airliners had to publish some weaker articles just to fill up space in the magazine.

That happened initially, but then Airliners regained its footing, especially after Jon Proctor became editor sometime in the 1990s. The magazine stayed strong under subsequent editors David Kaufman and Jay Selman but ownership changes after that turned off some long time readers. Unfortunately, the current ownership couldn't make things work and that issue with the LH 747-8 on the cover probably will be the last. If the one supposedly on the loading dock last December ever appears, it will be a collector's item.

It's really a shame as I used to write for them.


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