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User currently offlineDash8King From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2743 posts, RR: 10
Posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3400 times:

I thought that when using IFR rules that the ATC were supposed to tell me when to lower flaps, what speed to go etc... but when I use IFR it just tells me what heading and altitude and then when I get close to the Airport it switches me to Visual rules. Is there anyway to change that? What am I doing wrong, can anyone help me?

Thanks

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User currently offlineNormalSpeed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

Dash8King,

There isn't really any way to change that, because ATC doesn't tell you when to lower your flaps - not even in real life. That's up to you, the pilot. ATC will sometimes issue speed restrictions, or tell you to slow to a certain speed. That is for spacing between other you and other aircraft.

However, IFR ATC clearances should include a clearance for an instrument approach. ("Cleared for the ILS, VOR, etc.. approach...")

'Speed


User currently offlineDash8King From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2743 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3319 times:

Yeah thats what I mean, don't know how flaps got in there. Because I like to play with low visibility and stuff like that and when I get to 4000 feet they clear me for a visual, so by the time I can see the runway I overshoot it and have to do a go around.

User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3320 times:

In real life ATC might give you a specific speed, but no more.
A controller does not have to know when you need to extend flaps. He IS supposed to know the limitations (more or less) of the type of aircraft you fly so he doesn't order a C172 to fly at FL250 and 300 knots indicated.

The code for speed restrictions was probably planned for FS2002 (people have found sound files with speed restrictions...) but not implemented because of time problems.
Maybe in the next version (or in an update, if and when that comes).



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineNormalSpeed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3313 times:

Try setting the visability around one mile, and then see what happens. When the visability is good enough, it's pretty common for ATC to clear you for a visual approach, even though you are on an instrument flight plan. It helps traffic flow a lot.

'Speed


User currently offlineSharpnfuzzy From Canada, joined Jun 2001, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3306 times:

What airports do your flight plans end at? Because not all airports have ILS enabled runways. Even large airports (schiphol for one) can have a runway or 2 that doesn't use ILS, and if the wind is blowing from the right direction, then that runway just happens to be the active.



User currently offlineDash8King From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2743 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3295 times:

lots of places but around YSCB and YMML lately. I have my visibility at 5 miles.

User currently offlineN139j From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3289 times:

5 miles is within VFR minimums. Lower it below that and they should clear you IFR.
-Jason
N139J


User currently offlineKALB From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 573 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3286 times:

If I'm on an IFR flight plan I get cleared for an instrument approach regardless of visibility unless I request a visual approach. For non ILS equipped runways you may have to do non-precision approaches using VOR or NBD. Get out those Jep or NOAA approach plates. Jeppesen does sell Approach and Departure charts on CD for flight sim. I have the charts for eastern USA.

User currently offline9V-SVA From Singapore, joined Aug 2001, 1860 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3278 times:

I always get cleared to ILS-equipped runways on my flights. The thing is, I always land SHORT.

9V-SVA



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