SJCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 579 posts, RR: 1 Posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4202 times:
I have never dealt at an airliners show, and was wondering if anybody out there with experience could offer me some advise on how I should set up, price items, etc. I'm dealing mostly in older ticket jackets/timetables and paper items, and some misc. stuff...anything would be appreciated!
SJC-Alien From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 919 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4131 times:
.........If you can get a copy of Richard "Dick" Wallins aviation collectible guide would be helpful(library-bookstore..)
Depending on how rare you're items are and which airlines-it varies. I'd sell a Eastern ticket jacket for $2-3.00....schedules I've sold at SEA last year varied from $2.00 to 7.00...depending on airline and year..it's a tough call ...age/wear and tear on the item...maybe look up EBAY under airlines section and cruz through those prices and then see what is selling and for what amount, then drop the price a little-use common sense that EBAY is slightly over-priced on some items...be willing to bargain-but don't trade unless you want an item....
ALSO: be aware of the 'traders'......they'll know you're new and will come up with dumb-shit items to trade with you,,,and want your best stuff...so tell them you DON'T trade....simple as that.....
SJC-Alien From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 919 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4140 times:
......Also SJCguy--are you in the SJC area,....? Our show is this weekend at SFO..10/5....airline collectible show.....if you have time....come on up and see me at the door....I'll give you a guided "tour"......just ask for me
SJCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 579 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4120 times:
Hey, thanks a lot for your advise...unfortunatly I have to work on that day and wont be able to make the show. Is it wise to price things a little lower if anything...especially since I'm not sure what they're worth? I have a ton of USAir stuff from about 1990-1997, ticket jackets and timetables in mint condition, Mark Air jackets, and lots of other paper items. Anyways thanks again and we'll see how it goes!
SJC-Alien From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 919 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4120 times:
..Put a fair price.....say $5 on an item and if they offer $3-take it,,,,if you want to get rid of the stuff.........you have to have a little working knowledge of what you're selling...some Airline stuff is more valuable than other Airlines....so don't give it away.....I'd recommend getting in as early as you can......stack your boxes on your tables and go look around...then set up as fast as you can...other dealers will see you're new and come and start looking at your stuff, because they want to buy it cheap and turn around and sell it for more than you got,,,,,,,so beware,,,,but don't turn 'em down,,,have your change ready---lots of $1's and $5's and quarters,,,if U have a quarter box(yes you should) lots of kids at the SEA show last year...They only let us in at 7am last year and security guards will make you wear a tag...it's tough to set up in 2hrs if you have a lot of stuff....( I had 30 boxes at SEA last yr....) and made almost $1,000.-but I have a huge china/glassware/silverware airline collection and it was some gooood stuff.
price range I've seen for common:
skeds- $1- $10 dollars depending on who/what it is & Yr
postcards-.50cents on up ,,depending if rare or not...
playing cards-$1- on up if opened- If new...depending on Airline $5. on up
jackets- $1 on up to rare
luggage tags(hard plastic) $5. on up if primo
twisty luggage tags- $1 on up unless rare
swizzle sticks .50 on up to rare airline
Misc paper w/ logo the older-the more desireable= higher value
china glassware silverware varies GREATLY depending on who/what...
take a 'helper' if you can............
take plastic bags for sales-- and newspaper if you have glassware to wrap
check with your local supermarket and see if you can buy 100 plastic bags from them..I do it all the time,,,,or go to a 'DollarDays" store.....
take an umbrella....if it's raining in SEA--you'll need it or take plastic tarp...if you have a hand truck- helps greatly...it's quite a ways from the parking area till you get upstairs at the show,....if you're flying up...pack accordingly....if you're driving.....it's 13-15hr drive straight up I-5 from SJC area.....
Soontobepilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 271 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4053 times:
I'll be at the show as a buyer. Is there any way to tell who is an a.net forum member while your there? It would be kinda cool to have everyone wear a nametag w/ their screenname on it. Does Mr. Mattocks use this forum? He runs the show.
You talked about some prices above. Do dealers ever sell really common things for lower prices than above? I mean, I am just a beginner, and I want to expand my collection with common stuff first in order to get a really big collection then start looking for smaller things. Like can you get ticket jackets from current America West, Alaska, or United airlines for 25 cents or 50 cents? I guess I'll just check it out at the show. To give you an idea of what I mean by beginner, I have:
162 safeties (no really rare ones)
98 ticket folders
125 paper/rubber band luggage tags
599 misc. other things
plus I have a bag of stuff from aviation stuff that it non-aviation.
ONLY 3 DAYS LEFT!!! I am quite excited for the show, it will be my first!
And a question to all you dealers: Is the stuff you sell just stuff you don't want, surplus/extras, or a combo? I have one small box of stuff I want to get rid of because it is surplus, but I want to keep everything else... I just want as many different things as possible.
SJC-Alien From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 919 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4042 times:
Soon to be Pilot:
Unk if Mr Mattocks in an A.net member--his table is usually the 1st Left table as you enter the room....a real nice guy..his wife helps him run the show..ask him.
Yes,,,,you can buy just about anything....YOU are the buyer-All you have to do is find what you want-and if it's a little higher than want you want to pay..just ask for a lessor amount, they can say yes or no..! Of course that gives you the chance to roam the room and search for other dealers who may be willing to 'deal' a little better,,,,,I do it all the time.....most dealers have a real "mix" of items...you'll see when you get there...then shop the room quick and zero in on people you want to buy from and start bartering...many dealers have many multiple items and will start high 1st..then will bargain,,believe me..!
So yes, to expand your collection-shop the room, but don't take too long as someone may buy what you really want before you get back to the table....prices will vary greatly.......it's also a way to see what your stuff is worth...many of the SEA dealers have been to our SFO show and they are very nice and will work with you......don't worry. So, you may have to spend a few hours there to 'work' the dealers down towards the end of the day, but if you get there to late...good stuff is gone..!!
I've put my SJC Alien name on my name tag and have seen a few people from A.net...........so it's not a big deal anyway-if people want to say Hi , they will...if not,,,,no biggie...
You're starting to sound like me and my collection...you have some good items and categories....keep it up.....I've been collecting Airline stuff since 1960's when we lived in Seattle above BFI.....(our house is now NB I-5 and Swift Ave)
so it is a fun hobby-just don't go overboard or you'll have toooo many items)
Enjoy the show........you luckies.....I'll be there next year .
If you have any further questions about the show/dealers/etc, feel free to ask here of contact thru profile..
Soontobepilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 271 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4028 times:
The show was cool! I got a bunch of stuff. My favorite thing that I got was a Pan Am early-70's postcard of the Boeing SST. It is really cool. Don't really know what it's worth, but I paid $10. Is this a good deal?
Anyway, it was great! I went spotting at SEA afterwards, too, and saw an AN-124!!!!! It took off AND landed within about 1/2 hour, and had to request a follow-me truck. The pilot had a heavy Russian accent. COOL!!! I also saw the NW 742 departure (flight 7) and the BA 744 arrival. Fun...
SJCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 579 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4017 times:
Show was great...I had the table at the end corner, with mostly paper items. Show went really well, good turn out and the 747er made about 2 departures and landings as we all watched in awe with our mouths pressed against the glass...hehe. Awesome site...
SJC-Alien From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 919 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4021 times:
..........DANG it............ I KNEW I should have made it up there.......
Soon to be Pilot:
Yes,,the Pan AM postcard is not too common-so $10.00 is normal...some cards are higher-so be happy with that-(most SST-Concorde stuff is VERY popular right now.) I know people who go to the shows and that's all they look for is Concorde-SST type stuff...Did you park by the water tank at SEA to photo spot at SEA....?
SJC guy: Ok,,you lucked out and got a window table..???? I would have killed to see the 747ER t/o and land....grrrrrrr I blew it..! I checked WSDOT.com yesterday AM and the weather looked good up there too...next year-I'm making the show and getting 3 tables...
Soontobepilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 271 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4016 times:
I don't know exactly where I was, as it was a new spot to me. I drove on the Burien Highway all the way around to the south end of the airport, just under the approach for RW 34R and 34L. Just before you get under the fligh path, there is an intersection. I turned left onto an access road that was being used heavily by construction vehicles (per the third runway). I kept driving up till I got to a tower that was a comm radar or something (a dish thing that is symetrical (like a wheel of cheese)that was spinning furiously). At this spot, it is directly accross from the Horizon ramp. There is just 1 fence between you and the action... And there was a sign that said "Lobby -->; passenger parking". Could this have been the old terminal? There was also this big cement pad right in front of me, and two construcion trucks. Also, parked at my nine oclock about 100M away was a World Airways MD11.
Does anyone know the history of this spot and why the sign is there? Is this where the viewing deck was?
Thanks for the feedback on the postcard. I met some really cool people there... I look forward to my next tradeshow!!!
Does anyone fly to the Airliners International show every year? This year it's in Columbus, Ohio, I think. I'd love to go, but I can't really afford airfare.