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FS2004: Round The World In A Prop!  
User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 19291 times:

Hey have any of you attempted flying around the globe in a GA Propeller plane (i.e. Cessna/Baron etc).

I am currently attemting to fly it in a Baron 58. My flights so far are:

Atlanta-Denver (approx 7hrs) - (Dusk departure, night arrival)
Denver-Las Vegas (approx 5hrs) - (Mid-morning departure, midday arrival)
Las Vegas-San Francisco (Approx 2hrs) - (Mid afternoon departure, dusk arrival)
San Francisco-Seattle (Approx 4hrs) - (Early morning departure, late morning arrival)

Sounds boring i know, but i don't stay on it constantly. I even left it flying while at school today Big grin.

-Stephen

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User currently offlineMarkyboy From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 19112 times:

Not in a General Aircraft but I did do a point to point round the world trip in a Convair 580 in FS2002. Started out in Nice, France and flew clockwise round the world back to Nice. The only part I cheated on (by cheated I mean left her on autopilot with the GPS) was crossing from Russia to the Aleutian Islands. Otherwise all flights were done in real time, real weather and using conventional navaids not the GPS. If I remember correctly it took a couple of hours flying every day for about 3 weeks.
Seems a little daft but I just kinda figured that I may as well join up all my flights rather than picking random points to fly to and from.

markyboy.


User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 19087 times:

I tried it in a Beech1900D I started in New Zealand but gave up shortly.

I might try it again in the 777 or a 767.



Pershoyu Spravoyu Litaki!
User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 19014 times:

Hi, i have flown quite a bit since when i last posted

Seattle-Vancouver (Approx 1hrs) (Midday departure, early afternoon arrival)
Vancouver-Anchorage (Approx 6hrs) (07:30 departure, early afternoon arrival)
Anchorage-Anadyr (Approx 5hrs) (Early morning departure, mid morning arrival following day - time change)

I'm currently flying down the coast of Russia to Japan.

 Big thumbs up

-Stephen


User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 18991 times:

I tried in a 764 and in a DC-10, got part way and got bored with it.
But next summer when i have lotsa free time i plan to take a 732 round the world eh. But a prop sounds like fun too!


CanadianNorth



What could possibly go wrong?
User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 18984 times:

On FS2002 I went round in the 737, the Lear, and the 747 (three hops only for the Jumbo, Melbourne-Baghdad-LA-Melbourne.

Then I downloaded a Piper Navajo from Abacus, fell in love with flying it, and went round in that. Which was interesting as its theoretical max. range is only 800 miles. By leaning the mixture and keeping the revs down I discovered that over 1,000 miles was possible, but even so flight planning had to be spot-on. The longest leg was 1,120 from Port Moresby to Truk in the Marianas helped by a tailwind from the 'real-world weather'), the most visually exciting was Anchorage-Juneau in Alaska.

FS2004 was a disappointment as the Beech is not my sort of aeroplane, too unstable - so I went round in the Dakota. This has the same kind of range as the Navajo, with the additional challenge that it only has an old-fashioned autopilot, so all landings had to be visual with no help from the ILS except the visual flightpath.

I can recommend the venture to anyone bored with just flying airliners and Cessnas. Play fair, stick to the rule I made for myself. 'Safe arrivals' every time, or start again!



"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards.." - Leonardo da Vinci
User currently offlineUSAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1848 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months ago) and read 18955 times:

Me personally, no. I do have a friend who is about 1/2 of the way done with an around-the-world trip in a CRJ-200 though.

User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 18915 times:

For anyone who tries it, the fun for me lay in the takeoffs and landings. No reason why you shouldn't just plan the flights VFR and use 16X speed on the long legs. That way it's easy to get in a flight every session.

Another tip is to use 'real world' weather - but plan each flight on the same date. Avoids endless downloads. I usually picked a day with 'interesting' weather and stuck to the same day all through. The way you do it is to save your first flight, then call it up after each successful flight and use 'World/Go to Airport' to move it on to the next stop. Don't forget to set the time back to early morning, though. Then plan the next flight.



"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards.." - Leonardo da Vinci
User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 18904 times:

Currently, I'm also doing a round-the-world trip. As a matter of fact, I'm writing this here straight from the flight deck of my Learjet 45, thanks to this nice little add-on called VPN. At this moment I'm almost halfway between AYPY and WAMM. Anyway, since I thought I might get bored when using a prop, I chose the Learjet 45. I always use real weather, real time etc. Most of the navigation is done by the autpilot of course, but I always stay close to the PC just in case I need to switch to another ATC center. That way, I can do nice flights with vectors from ATC for an ILS or another approach.


Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 18906 times:

I've done it in a Twin Cessna (Flight1 Golden Eagle).
Took me a year to complete the entire trip, almost to the day.
http://www.hornet.demon.nl/tmp/roundtrip_plan1.xls for the route plan.
Currently doing another round the world in the same aircraft, but stuck in Alaska while my computer is broken and I'm anyway too busy.
http://www.hornet.demon.nl/tmp/roundtrip2003_plan1.xls

Here's the current route I've laid out: http://www.hornet.demon.nl/tmp/rtw2003.jpg (copy and paste in another browser. Don't want the huge graphic to load here...).



I wish I were flying
User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 18869 times:

Atlanta-Denver
Denver-Las Vegas
Las Vegas-San Francisco
San Francisco-Seattle
Seattle-Vancouver
Vancouver-Anchorage
Anchorage-Anadyr
Anadyr-Petropavlovsk
Petropavlovsk-New Chimose (Sapporo)
New Chimose-Tokyo Narita
Tokyo Narita-Osaka Kansai
Osaka Kansai-Fukuoka

Thats what i've done so far. I'm currently flying Fukouka-Seoul Incheon  Big thumbs up

-Stephen


User currently offlineClrd2go From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 1000 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 18812 times:


I haven't done a RTW flight yet, but did a couple Cross the USA trips..first
was in the Dreemfleet Archer..let's see if I can remember the route...

Started from my home airport I was usually limited to an hour or so per flight
(honey do lists)

MHT-ALB
ALB-BUF
BUF-BKL(burke lakefront)
BKL-CGX
CGX-DES (Des Moines)
DES-Kansas City Downtown)
KCY-ICT
ICT-SFE
SFE-DVT (Deer Valley Arizona)
DVT-SBA
SBA-SQL (San Carlos, CA)

Jim



What a long strange trip it's been
User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 18728 times:

Atlanta-Denver
Denver-Las Vegas
Las Vegas-San Francisco
San Francisco-Seattle
Seattle-Vancouver
Vancouver-Anchorage
Anchorage-Anadyr
Anadyr-Petropavlovsk
Petropavlovsk-New Chimose (Sapporo)
New Chimose-Tokyo Narita
Tokyo Narita-Osaka Kansai
Osaka Kansai-Fukuoka
Fukuoka-Incheon
Incheon-Shanghai Pudong
Pudong-Wuhan
Wuhan-Chengdu
Chengdu-Putao

I've decided to take the southern route of the Himilayas. Going through the middle would be stupid as there aren't any airports around and also the Baron 58 doesn't go much higher than 18,000ft and some of those mountains are huge. Also by going south i get to see Everest  Big thumbs up

-Stephen


User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 18725 times:

Any chance of stopping in EXT, Stephen, between 24th Dec. and 29th Dec.?  Wink/being sarcastic


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18711 times:

hehe, well i was planning to visit a lot of English cities so maybe. However, because I only usually fly it on weekends, I'm slightly behind on date. I think its still in November actually.

Some of my landings have been terrible, most are nose diving in some way as i have been at about 2000ft up at around 3 miles away! Oh well, practice makes perfect I guess  Big grin

-Stephen


User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 18711 times:

What's the problem with landings, Stephen? Can we help?

With the Beech, you shouldn't be at much more than 1,000 feet at four miles out. Do you use the ILS and the Visual Flight Path? If I were you I'd use the autopilot until about 1 mile out at first, that will let you get the hang of a proper shallow approach. Then you can move on to landing visual if you want to.

Mind you, that Beechcraft on FS2004 is pretty unstable on the landing approach anyway. The 'book' says 105 knots on final approach but I find she pitches up and down too much at that speed, 115 is better until you flare.

Tony



"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards.." - Leonardo da Vinci
User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 18691 times:

Its not a major problem. The landings are usually reasonably good, and i have always gone off the runway at the next turning to where i touch down.

My aim of this was to actually get used to flying and get better at the landings mainly. So i haven't used autopilot at all. For a good landing, i set myself to touching down straight and with the centre line of the runway between my two outside wheels. About 90% of my landings have done this successfully.

Its mainly the approaches that are annoying. From about 10 miles out it looks like a good approach about the right height but as i get closer i get, in a way, higher and higher as apposed to the runway, and i usually need to be banked down slightly to get down at a reasonable section of the runway.

This may sound completely stupid, but because i've never actually bothered using the autopilot before, i don't know how to work it. Could you possibly give me a few tips for it and how to use it because i could benifit from that a lot on other flights. I tried to use it once but it mucked up my flight. It was auto-approach and it turned me onto approach then just kept on turning etc. Also don't you have to be on IFR to use ILS?

-Stephen


User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 18681 times:

Ir would take about 5 minutes to SHOW you the autopilot and ILS, Stephen, about an hour to type it all in here!

I take my hat off to you doing RWD without the autopilot. Must admit I 'cheat' on long flights - use the autopilot on 'GPS Hold', and even jack up the speed to 4X or 8X. The interest for me is in route planning, fuel management, taking off and landing - and coping with bad weather.

Have you ever done any of the Rod Machado flying lessons? He's an entertaining bloke, and you'll find out all about landing on there, plus the auto-pilot and the ILS. I'd break off your RWD for a moment and do a couple if I were you, it's more fun when you get organised!

The reason your approaches are too high is almost certainly that you aren't getting the speed and trim right. You are probably just pointing the nose at the runway, and letting the speed run away. There's a thing called 'reversal' - on an approach you use power for height and pitch for speed. Look up the correct landing speed in the 'Learning Centre', and stick to it. And watch the Vertical Speed Indicator. Too high, reduce power - too fast, raise the nose, and so on. Start your final approach from say 4 miles and say 1,200 feet, try to hold the correct speed and a descent rate of about 500 feet per minute, and keep things steady - don't 'rush' anything.




"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards.." - Leonardo da Vinci
User currently offlineQf743intl From Australia, joined Jul 2001, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 18632 times:

Yes,

A very common interpretation is that lowering the nose is the best way to get rid of altitude, and that power increase/decrease is the way to kill Air speed. Wrong.

As NAV20 said, power controls the RoC (Rate of Climb or Descent) and that the nose pitch (or "Attitude) controls speed.

And remember, use all flaps, and always retrim for a good descent rate after each stage of flaps has been selected.

Anyway, hope this helps, and i am sure that after all the flying you are about to do your landings in the baron should be very very nice.

QF743INTL


User currently offlineCrank From Canada, joined May 2001, 1562 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 18632 times:

I have plans to do a round the world trip in the Baron, I'm starting to write down airports where I'm gonna fly to.

I also selected some cities to fly round the world in a 747, by trying to stay as close as possible to the equator.

see:

http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=UIO-HNL-SIN-LBV-UIO%0D%0A&RANGE=&PATH-COLOR=red&PATH-UNITS=km&SPEED-GROUND=&SPEED-UNITS=kts&RANGE-STYLE=best&RANGE-COLOR=navy&MAP-STYLE=


User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 18626 times:

I did RWD in a 747 - believe it or not, it only needs three 'hops'. Try Melbourne-Baghdad-LAX-Melbourne!

I agree with Stephen, though, much more fun in a prop with limited range and lots of VFR landings.



"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards.." - Leonardo da Vinci
User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1883 posts, RR: 54
Reply 21, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 18598 times:

I'M gonna do it in a T-6 texan a.k.a Harvard

Dunno where to start though

Nice seems the most likely place

Rgds
SA006



Proudly South African
User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 22, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 18554 times:

Just tried landing that Beechcraft a few times in your honour, Stephen. Found it was very unstable pitch-wise. In the end I concluded that the landing speed in the 'Flight Notes' (95 knots) is just plain wrong, 110 knots gives better results.

Best advice I can give:-

Start from 2,000 feet above runway height at 7 miles. Pitch fully fine, mixture full rich, cowl flaps closed, full flap, gear down. Set the boost to about 17 inches and trim to hold 110 knots. That should give you a descent rate of about 600 feet per minute.

Only thing is, the boost increases as you lose height - as you get lower, reduce throttle a touch to maintain about 17 inches. Use the throttle anyway to hold the correct rate of descent, and use the trim to hold 110 knots.

As you pass over the threshold, cut the throttles, keep the end of the runway just above the top of the panel, and ease the stick back to reduce the descent rate to as near 100 feet/minute as you can get.

Hope all this helps! - Tony




"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards.." - Leonardo da Vinci
User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 18543 times:

Thank you for your tips and advice. I have just landed in Kerman (Iran). The approach was perfect, if not a little too high but i was at a horizontal pitch the whole approach from when i was cleared to land. The actual landing wasn't that good, i was trying to do two things at once (Get it straight and get it down) and i endeed up with a small bounce.

Well my recent flights have all been very long and i have landed with less than 10% of fuel. Iran and Pakistan aren't very interesting, all i saw was desert. I'll be flying a lot in Europe, mainly Britain. Hopefully it'll make my landings a lot better by doing more and more flights.




Atlanta-Denver
Denver-Las Vegas
Las Vegas-San Francisco
San Francisco-Seattle
Seattle-Vancouver
Vancouver-Anchorage
Anchorage-Anadyr
Anadyr-Petropavlovsk
Petropavlovsk-New Chimose (Sapporo)
New Chimose-Tokyo Narita
Tokyo Narita-Osaka Kansai
Osaka Kansai-Fukuoka
Fukuoka-Incheon
Incheon-Shanghai Pudong
Pudong-Wuhan
Wuhan-Chengdu
Chengdu-Putao
Putao-Delhi
Delhi-Kerman

I'm currently flying from Kerman to Cyprus, however i think that is going to take the fuel to the max, so i may not get there without landing before. I estimated as opposed to the Delhi-Kerman flight and it was slightly longer and the Delhi-Kerman flight left me with 9% fuel so it is a bit close.

Does anybody know the best way to cross the Atlantic. The safest seems to be going north to Iceland and Greenland. However i had two other routes:

One was going to Portugal then flying across to the Azores and then to Bermuda and then USA

or

Going across to western Africa and crossing to South America. However I've been wondering whether the Baron would be able to make it to safety and well there's nowhere to land if i don't.

Thanks again
-Stephen


User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 18533 times:

lol the easy thing 2 do is just 2 turn up the speed of the sim,
u get around alot quicker trust me hehe


25 NAV20 : Glad it's helping, Stephen, and that the landings are working out better. About touchdown, that is one thing that is more difficult on the simulator t
26 Post contains images Planesarecool : NAV20 you have been a great help, however i'm going to stick to my objective and fly it all manually. When i've got back to Atlanta i'll start doing s
27 NAV20 : Fair enough, Stephen, admire you! Flying visual, though, I wouldn't advise the Azores/St. John's trip - not if you are using 'real weather', anyway. I
28 Planesarecool : Yes a lot of my flights have been started in the early morning (around 5am) and because i'm going from east to west i'm basically following the sun so
29 NAV20 : I'm getting 'hooked' on this, Stephen! Haven't done this much navigation for a long time! Yes - if you go via the Azores, you'd have to make one stop
30 NAV20 : PS Definitely no airport at 'Sao Paolo' (St. Paul's Rocks').
31 Post contains images Planesarecool : I haven't been using real world weather (because the computer with FS2004 on doesn't have a phone line connection - doesn't have the internet basicall
32 NAV20 : Sounds good, Stephen. Nice that you have the landings sorted. One more tip - save a favourite approach, then, when you get 'real weather', change the
33 Planesarecool : I'm having another small problem regarding landings. This is the touching down. I always seem to have a very heavy touchdown (almost as bad as some of
34 NAV20 : Just guessing from your description, Stephen, but it looks like the landing problem is centred on your own phrase - "..however high I pitch up it just
35 Planesarecool : I haven't been able to play it that often as my computer is being a bit rubbish at the moment and keeps jamming. But anyway: Atlanta-Denver Denver-Las
36 NAV20 : You've made the round-world bug bite me again, Stephen. I decided to take the Beechcraft round in the Southern Hemisphere - difficult in December weat
37 Tupozure : I did a round the world trip in a MD80. I'm going to give an ATR72 a try, I love those aircraft!
38 Planesarecool : I read that the Baron does 200kts. Yet whatever i try (full power, no flaps etc) I can only get it to around 130kts. Doesn't bother me really, but I'd
39 NAV20 : Bad about the computer, Stephen - hope those programs I recommended help to clean off the spyware. I save each flight temporarily, at intervals. I am
40 Planesarecool : I doubt there's much chance I'm going to get anything more done. I think my computer is just about finished now. We can't even get it to start up. Say
41 Lfutia : Planesarecool: Windows ME is a piece of crap! I had ME for 1.5 years and it gave a lot of trouble so my parents decided to buy a new one! I now have a
42 Planesarecool : We have had the computer just over 3 years now. It's terrible,my parents dont have a clue what there talking about and whatever i say just goes throug
43 NAV20 : Don't despair, Stephen, I think I see the problem. Do you mean the CD-ROM drive is scratching disks? Only because something similar happened to me a f
44 Planesarecool : Sounds just like mine. We'll probably get somebody in and see what they recommend. Its definately something to do with the CD Drive. Another thing i'v
45 CanadianNorth : Im about to attemp a "Round the North" tour.... I plan to start in Whitehorse with the DC-3. No real plans yet but im guessing something like the foll
46 NAV20 : Good project, CanadianNorth! I think the first leg (Whitehorse-Anchorage) could be the most difficult in a DC3, though. If you want to keep it realist
47 Planesarecool : Gave up on the Baron RTW trip, now trying it in a FlyBE. Bombardier DHC-8-Q400. First flight just completed from London Gatwick to Dresden. Going the
48 Radarbeam : I'm about to start an around the world flight, not in a prop though but in a 737-700. Here's my route. 1 Depart: Baie-Comeau [CYBC] ATC : n.a. 0 nm 00
49 Post contains images IanatSTN : Radarbeam, 1067373 Lbs fuel required A bit of luck you don't have to pay for fuel in Flight Simulator!! Cheer Ian@STN
50 Post contains images B727-200 : I tried the RTW thing - but like most, got bored and gave up. However, I was enjoying watching the itinerary grow, so hopefully you will get your PC u
51 Post contains images NAV20 : Good to hear you're back in the air, Stephen. Hope the 'puter is fixed now. Don't forget Adaware6 and Spybot, you'll be surprised what they can clean
52 B727-200 : OK, I have been inspired. On January 13th, I started an eastbound circuit of the globe in a Cessna 182RG, starting at Essendon Airport (YMED) in Melb
53 NAV20 : Bit of advice, B727 - to help you avoid disappointment! I admire your determination to do it 'the hard way'. My first RW trip was just like that - on
54 B727-200 : NAV20, LOL..... The Pacific Rim is going to become an aircraft graveyard from my failed "RTW" attempts. I may need to start looking at VOR/NDB on the
55 NAV20 : B727, done a bit of research for you. It may HAVE to be the northern route. Sorry, this is going to be long….. There is no substitute for ‘forward
56 Post contains images ScottishLaddie : Darn you've got me! I now have an urge to do a RTW flight. Some stopoffs must include Aspen, Sion, Kathmandu, Tahiti, baghdad...... going west in a...
57 B727-200 : NAV20, would it be better gaining a little more altitude and trying to capitalise on stronger tail winds? It seems as though I have wasted my time go
58 NAV20 : Welcome to the club, ScottishLaddie. I think the Baron has about the same '90 gallons per engine' setup as the Cessna - my guess is that you'd have to
59 Post contains images NAV20 : That's part of the fun, 727 - yes, the wind might be stronger higher up, but you have to spend scarce fuel to go up there and find out Obviously, as y
60 PIA777 : I usually fly my long haul flights on 777 or 747 on both FS2002 and FS2004. My longest flight was JFK to LHR. PIA777
61 NAV20 : Good for you, PIA777. Have you tried the 737, though, I find it a nicer-flying aeroplane in both versions? ScottishLaddie, suggestions for airports in
62 Post contains images ScottishLaddie : Thanks a lot NAV20! You're being a great help I have just flown the first leg. EDI-Hornafjordur(right on the SE tip of Iceland). EDI-KEF was really pu
63 Post contains images NAV20 : Pleasure, SL. After a few flights, if you keep monitoring the fuel/distance equation, you'll get a better idea of what the aeroplane can or can't do.
64 Post contains images ScottishLaddie : Don't know if anyone has ever noticed this, but while I was in the spotplane view admiring the Baron I noticed that the pilot seems to be struggling a
65 ScottishLaddie : 2 legs done now! EDI-Hornafjordur Hornafjordur-Keflavik
66 NAV20 : I'm pretty sure it does all get saved, SL - I've noticed that any flights I set up for days when I down-loaded 'real weather' show it again, even in a
67 ScottishLaddie : Lots of snow at Hornafjordur but I couldn't see it as bad at KEF. I'm about ot go off and do KEF-Greenland!
68 ScottishLaddie : Now it's: EDI-Hornafjordur Hornafjordur-KEF KEF-Narsarsuaq
69 NAV20 : Excellent going, SL - you'll be the one giving the tips soon! Not an easy airport, Narsarsauq, is it? Hope you were able to come in from the sea, the
70 ScottishLaddie : NAV20, I did choose to approach over the sea and the scenery is pretty good, not the easiest approach ever with all the high land in the area. I may c
71 Post contains images B727-200 : ****NEWSFLASH**** RTW TRAGEDY IN THE PACIFIC -------------------------- 25 January, 2004. Pieces of a Cessna 182RG were recovered just after nightfall
72 Post contains images NAV20 : Don't worry, 727 - still have a twelve-foot sailing dinghy in the garage. Twenty-four hours to caulk and paint it, then I'll be on my way. Should be t
73 ScottishLaddie : NAV20, yes I have noticed that, the baron is very unstable and twitchy on takeoff and in particular when landing, it is difficult to make a smooth app
74 Jwenting : I won't be in the Tonga area for some time in my C421 but I will keep an eye out for any survival signs. I'm currently awaiting favourable weather con
75 Post contains images Mexicana757 : I'm currently flying around the world on a 737-300. So far this is my route MDW-YUL-YQX(gander)-KEF-LHR-CDG. Right now I am stuck in CDG trying to fig
76 NAV20 : Hi, Jwenting. Thought at first you meant Kure, at the other end of Japan! Where is Kure Island, which way are you heading? If it's towards Japan, ther
77 NAV20 : SL, I'll never like the Baron, but after some experimenting I've found out how to get better landings out of it. I think that it's modelled badly - th
78 ScottishLaddie : NAV20, that's almost what I have been doing already with the Baron. Still trying to find time to do Narsarsuaq-Gander.
79 Jwenting : Kure is one of the islands in the Midway area. Not much there except a runway. I'm now heading south (though zigzagging to catch the next island all t
80 ScottishLaddie : At last, I'm currently doing Narsarsauq-Goose Bay
81 Jwenting : will land at Vanuatu in about an hour for a fuelstop, then on towards Australia.
82 NAV20 : Hope you come down to see 727 and me in Melbourne, Jwenting. After that I recommend Darwin via Alice Springs - you can detour on the way to have a loo
83 Radarbeam : I gave up the RW with the 737 simply because the automation of the aircraft made the flight less interesting. I started again in FSD new Piper Navajo
84 Post contains links Radarbeam : Here's an inspiring link for all those interrested in an around the world flight http://www.kerrlake.com/mgarratt/index.htm. She did what most of us a
85 Jwenting : Ah yes, I've read that before. It's a grand achievement. There are quite a few that have attempted in for real, many of them are no longer with us or
86 ATCT : Im on my fourth rtw trip. I flew the first time in a Boeing 777 then a Piper PA-18-180 (Super Cub 180HP) Then a Piper Cheyenne III And now im doing it
87 ScottishLaddie : Wow! ATCT how do you do that?!
88 NAV20 : What routes have you tried, ATCT? SL, the Dakota is a good choice for RW. It has the same sort of '1,200nm or so' range as other twins, and it's very
89 Post contains images Jwenting : Wow! ATCT how do you do that?! Slowly, very slowly. Especially in the Cub and Dak I am not yet sure what to take on my next grand tour. Thinking of us
90 ScottishLaddie : NAV20, i didn't realise the DC3 had autopilot. I thought it was just the Vega?
91 NAV20 : Yes, SL - top right of the panel. Like old times, won't hold the speed, and it only holds a course, not a vector. So you have to 'tweak' it a few degr
92 Hoons90 : I am doing a RTW trip on various aircraft for the Flying Tigers Group VA. With FTG VA you can fly with 17 affilate VA's plus many Star Alliance and On
93 B727-200 : I've decided to do a bit more VFR flying over land to get a better feel for the aircraft before attempting another RTW flight. B727-200.
94 Post contains images Jwenting : yes, knowing the aircraft is vital. I now have some 300 hours in the C421 and can get her into (and out again) of almost anything with 2000ft runway o
95 Post contains images Mexicana757 : I have flown to a few places from my last post on my RTW trip on the 737-300. From CDG I decided to fly to Moscow. So this is how my route looks like;
96 Jwenting : Arrived in Indonesia now. Hairy landing at an unlit airport at night. Luckily the seaglow and moon provided enough light to see the runway and my land
97 Post contains images Mandala499 : Jtwenting, Which airport is that? :p Go to WIMM/Padang Tabing... Over the VOR at 10,000ft, unless visual beforehand, jet, prop anything... it's a chal
98 NAV20 : Having once had a bad experience in Indonesia, one of my foibles is that I avoid landing there. So my trans-Oceania route is 'usually' via Borneo/East
99 Post contains images Jwenting : yes, stepclimb or cruise climb can save quite a bit of fuel in the 421. And with a nice tailwind it only gets better
100 ScottishLaddie : NAV20, arrived at Goose Bay and there wasn't much action, mainly GA. Still there, next stop BOS, when I get the chance
101 NAV20 : Time is always the problem, SL - and I probably have more of it spare than you do. I started off like you, flying every inch of the way, including gue
102 NAV20 : Finished off my westbound trip with Midway-Guam-Port Moresby-Brisbane-Moorabbin. Only problem was close to home, ceiling at Moorabbin (VFR, no aids) w
103 Cancidas : we did in college and left the moitor in the window so others could monitor our progress. it became intoxicating for the people in our dorm. we used t
104 ScottishLaddie : Managed to fly a couple more legs: Goose Bay-BOS BOS-LGA
105 NAV20 : Good going, SL- nice views landing at Logan and La Guardia, aren't there? Recommend Washington DC (Reagan National Airport) and then Norfolk, Virginia
106 Post contains images Planesarecool : Wow, i never knew this thread was still going I gave up my RTW trip ages ago when i switched to my new computer. Since then i've been more interested
107 Post contains links and images Jwenting : Sad to hear that. I started my new tour (my third in a row) yesterday. http://hornet.demon.nl/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=RTW2004 for progress and minimal trip
108 Post contains images Planesarecool : Sounds like fun! Man, i should get back to doing that. Maybe I'l try "around the world in an A340 " Either: Quick route Leg 1: Heathrow-Los Angeles Le
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