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Keeping Mr. Plane On The Runway And Wings Level  
User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3114 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1918 times:

It seems each take off I do, my plane seems to veer to the side slowly and then off the runway. My rudder is tied to my taxiing (nosewheel) and it is NOT on autorudder. The rudder is controlled by my twisting joystick's twist which I use to rudder inflight and taxi. HOw do I keep the plane straight on the runway. I always push 5 on the keypad with the NumLock off to center the nosewheel but it still happens. Power is always equal in both engines and I usually use T.O/G.A. with the autothrottle. Could it be my autopilot settings? I never have the autopilot on except for the Autothrottles.

Then second issue is on rotation/nose up my plane seems to bank. I try to keep the joystick centered but it is hard since it does not snap back to dead center after I let go. Would the Wing leveler or Yaw Damper work on takeoff?

Thanks


I'll take 100 litres a side AVGAS with Prist - C172 pilot
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User currently offlineFlymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5454 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1844 times:

what about wind? Is there a cross wind. If the plane is going to the right than add left rudder. Really dont know why she would do that.


"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3114 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1834 times:

If I add rudder the nosewheel moves and i steer off the runway.


I'll take 100 litres a side AVGAS with Prist - C172 pilot
User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4807 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1806 times:

Did you turn off the engines and restart them? If so, you'll have to sync it by E-1-2...Or you'll need to recalibrate your joystick.


Flying an aeroplane with only a single propeller to keep you in the air. Can you imagine that? -Capt. Picard
User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 8382 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1703 times:

JAGflyer, with taildraggers like the Dakota, you have to free up the tailwheel to taxi, sometimes it helps to lock it for take off. The buttons for that are 'Ctrl-G' or 'Shift-G' (I can't remember which off-hand, check the Kneeboard for the key commands for the aeroplane you're using). Maybe one of those does the same for the nosewheel.

I don't expect so, though, because in real life, with tricycle undercarts, it is normal and necessary to steer with the nosewheel at the beginning of the takeoff run, until the speed builds up, the rudder 'bites', and you can rotate the nosewheel off the ground.

In any case, as Flymia says, in any kind of wind you will need to be able to hold the aeroplane straight.

I'm guessing at how much 'flying' you've done, apologies in advance if you're an old hand. But, assuming that you are fairly new to FS, I suspect that the problem is that you are gripping the joystick too hard - and either inducing the gradual turns you mention, or over-correcting when they do happen.

Try the lightest possible grip, and apply only the very lightest of pressure to correct any swings. Take your time, no hasty movements, give the aeroplane plenty of time to react before you press harder. And keep your eyes on the far end of the runway as much as you can, don't just stare at the white line.

If you're using TOGA you're obviously flying the airliners - another idea that might help is to practice with a lighter, slower aeroplane like the Cessna until you've got the hang of things.


"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards.." - Leonardo da Vinci
User currently offlineLHR27C From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 1267 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1684 times:

Check that your joystick is correctly calibrated, it may be that when it is centred the computer things it is banking to one side. Go to Start > Settings > Control Panel > Game Controllers and if necessary re-calibrate the stick. This might be the problem.


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User currently offlineMikedlayer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 398 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1683 times:
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It seems each take off I do, my plane seems to veer to the side slowly and then off the runway.

I have the same problem. I was guessing it was a problem with my joystick configuration (it probably is). I have calibrated it, reset all settings to default, and tried everything in the book I know, still every time I start a flight on the ground my rudder is on fully to the right, and I have to move it from side to side a few times to loosen it up like they do in real life...no idea why!

Mike

User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 6691 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1670 times:

Just try it on auto rudder. Maybe your sensitivity setting may be too sensitive.

User currently offlineTbanger From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1665 times:

Check your fuel load. Make sure you have equal load on both wings. FS exagerates lopsided fuel load dramatically.

User currently offlineLeej From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 273 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1662 times:

Also - check that you don't have your autopilot on with a heading entered when you are on the ground - I have done that on a couple of occasions - doh!!

User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3114 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1654 times:

The AP is never on as in pushed so the light is green. I set my speed,heading,alt and climb but they are not pushed or activated. As soon as I am off the ground I hit SPD and TOGA clicks off and my speed starts going up to about 230 for climb adn I slowly increase it until I can go MCH and set my speed that way.

Yes, I am not an old top at FS. I have only been using it for 6-7 months. I do over react when trying to do visual approches. I find i never make the runway. Im trying to practice though.

[Edited 2004-09-29 14:01:33]


I'll take 100 litres a side AVGAS with Prist - C172 pilot
User currently offlineBeowulf From Singapore, joined Jul 2003, 701 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1650 times:

Hi,

You may accidentally "steer" with the ailerons because you're holding the joystick a certain way or put pressure on it. That's happened to me a few times.

Nick

User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 8382 posts, RR: 42
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

Have you tried any of the lessons, JAGflyer? Rod Machado does quite a good job. The landing one, especially, teaches you all you need to know........


"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards.." - Leonardo da Vinci
User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3114 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1642 times:

Yes, I liked his lessons on the landings in the Cessna. The proper approch, the flare. Hes good.

Thanks for your help everybody.


I'll take 100 litres a side AVGAS with Prist - C172 pilot
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