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User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4649 times:

I had the below in the photographers forum but was told it may be a good idea to post it here..... So if anyone can give any info that would be great.

Post was as follows.....

I have started to really get into contrail photo's.... I just love the way you can take a picture of this little dot in the sky and then work at it on PS and see what aircraft/airline it is....

One thing i was thinking about was getting one of these ACARS scanners. I have been told they pick up the reg of overflying aircraft... Is that true. And how much does this bit of kit cost....

Would sure make life easier if correct..


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User currently offlineDaren3006 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4549 times:

The problem I would see with that is.....which transmission belongs to the aircraft you see in the sky. With aircraft traveling at 30,000+ ft. you will be receiving ACARS from hundreds of miles away. Similar to listening to "center" frequencies. When I listen to center frq's on my scanner it almost never shuts up. But, going out and looking at the sky you may only see one or two aircraft.

Just my thoughts....
Daren


User currently offlineDaren3006 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4545 times:

One more thing....

You may have better luck using tracking software such as AirNav Live. The downside to AirNav and similar software is that there is at least a 10 minute delay from real world position to your computer screen. I find that it's pretty difficult to match a blip with an actual aircraft but it can be done.

Daren


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4542 times:



Quoting LHRSIMON (Thread starter):
One thing i was thinking about was getting one of these ACARS scanners. I have been told they pick up the reg of overflying aircraft... Is that true. And how much does this bit of kit cost....

Could someone explain this, though? I have not been looking at ACARS equipment, not for contrails, but for general use, but know very little about it. If anyone who can shed some light on ACARS, using it, and equipment used, it would be much appreciated.

Harry



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User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4538 times:

Seeing as i was hoping to use it from my garden which is 5 miles from LHR i think after reading the replies its going to be a problem. Seeing as there will be at any one time at least 10-20 aircraft in the air at any one time. I gather it will be pretty impossible to work out what is what.

I did think about the Air Nav system but it has three big problems. (1) I would have to keep running between my PC and the garden. (2) the 10 min delay would be a problem in such busy skies. And (3) it flippin expensive !!!!

Anyone got any other ways of finding out whats that dot in the sky ???

Simon C



Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
User currently offlineDaren3006 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4517 times:

Harry,

I am by no means an authority on ACARS but from what I understand it is basically a data transmission between aircraft and their home base or company. It stands for Aircraft Communications And Reporting System. Not exactly sure if it's used for flight ops but is more of an administrative type thing.

To monitor ACARS you need a scanner capable of receiving the frequencies and then need to feed the audio into a computer running software able to decode it. The software can be downloaded from many places. Most is for a fee. Just do a Google search for ACARS and it will give you quite a bit of info.

I know this info is sketchy but I actually haven't monitored ACARS before. I've just read about it on the net.

Daren
P.S. Check this site for more info: http://www.javaradio.com/servlet/IBM...age=67&parent_id=36&iw_language=en


User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5150 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4497 times:

Any standard aviation scanner should do fine for acars, although the better the scanners mayprovide better results. As far as software goes, there are too main choices, AirNav ACARS decoder, and ACRSD (Free). Take your pick.

ACARS will come up with many hits, but if you can identify the airline through your photo you should be able to tie up the registration, although being in london you can forget about tying up BA regs. Anything that is fairly rare should be easily identifyable, eg if you photograph an aircraft and it turns out to be Swissair, there will probably be only one swissair aircraft in the area at that time so you should find its reg easily through acars...



That'll teach you
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4492 times:

Thanks you guys for all the info! I have used ACARS websites in the past, where they post current ACARS data, but I have noticed it tends to be spotty, so I have been thinking of investing in my own equipment. Since I am an aircraft photographer and spotter, I sometimes miss the reg# of aircraft. If I was able to record the info, and then match the time the plane took off or landed with a flight number, I would be able to find the reg. That is my purpose for getting it. Thanks again everyone!

AirNav ACARS decoder, and ACRSD (Free)

Do you have a site for the ACRSD software you are talking about? I can't find it on google.

Harry

[Edited 2005-03-12 00:51:17]


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User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5150 posts, RR: 33
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4468 times:

Sorry that was a typo, it should have been ACARSD:

http://www.acarsd.org/



That'll teach you
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4445 times:

Thanks a bunch!  Smile

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineLurch From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4438 times:

1st you will need a good quality airband scanner second a PC for home use and maybe wacars go on google for this its free software!

If you are very lucky and can find one maybe you can buy an ARD-2 ACARS Decoder box that does not need a PC just a scanner plugged in to it WACARS has a moving map Display which is in real time SO you can track each individual flight.

It also has maps for many different parts of the world.

Try the Acarslinken page which has masses of ACARS links maps and software on it!


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4460 times:

Well, I just ran to Radio Shack to get a cord to connect my scanner with PC, I installed the ARARSD software, and I'm currently decoding flights! I'm so happy, thanks everyone for your help!  hyper 

Harry



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