Intothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2 Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
I have had fs2004 since about 1 month now, and I am curious what the most challenging airport is, to land on?
For me, it would be St. Barthelemy in Guadeloupe, I haven't managed to land it there yet, has anyone, I guess so.
Any harder airports to land on?
Any replies would be helpful.
Ianatstn From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 577 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Give SABA, a go, you can probably hit the runway without too many problems, just try and stop on the 1000ft runway before rolling off the edge into the sea! You can fly there in 10/15mins from SXM or indeed St. Barthelemy, just check your GPS.
Intothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Haha, yeah, Saba, I've heard of it, I'll try landing it with a Cessna, with 2%fuel and no payload, maybe then I've got a chance.
I'll try Innsbruck as well, sure it'll be challenging taking off and landing in the Alps.
Thanks for that Justplanecrazy and Ianatstn
Hope to hear some more replies.
AR1300 From Argentina, joined Feb 2005, 1740 posts, RR: 3 Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Try taking off from SFO 1R and landing in Oackland with a fully laden 744...I tried, but in the turn around to one of the runways I ended up back in SFO, And I was happy thinking that I landed in Oackland, when I realized, ''xxxxx contact San Fransisco ground at xxx.xxxx'' ....LOL.
SFO is not a hard one, but I ''harded it up''.
Komododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Try Couchrevel (or however you spell, too lazy to look it up). Also, in real life MZL or SKMZ (Manizales - La Nubia, Colombia) is very hard. Only ATR-42's and F-50's can make it there, but they must circle through the mountains to get on final. Of course, I have noticed FS in Colombia has all the mountains at 1/3 of the original altitude, so it might not be as hard.
Arniepie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
I know there is a difficult one in Norway way up north not far from the Northcape, it's in a bay and has a short runway with an offset approach.
I believe ENHV is the code for it.
If you want to fly to it in MSFS there is some good freeware scenery available for all of the interesting Norwegian airstrips(+50 locations), there are a lot of difficult airports in Norway (fsnordic.net or norwegianairports.com, I believe)
FlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6788 posts, RR: 6 Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 32767 times:
SBH is hard I done it a few times in a Cessna 411! A Cessna Caravan is a piece of cake after landing a twin turbo prop there.
Inburnswick is good for a big jet. At night it is very difficult.
Couchrevel It very hard since one runway is right after a huge mountain and the other is blocked by a tree.
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
Phatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1332 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
If you want to spice up your approaches, may I recommend:
KASE- Aspen/Pitkin Co. Airport
Runway 33 Left Base (HINT: Using the backcourse & DBL VOR will make you a good neighbor and avoid noise-sensitive areas, in addition to providing some stability before the final turns)
TNCM- St. Maarten/Princess Juliana International Airport
Runway 27 Left Base (No straight-ins!!!! Kai-Tak did not have a straight-in to Runway 13, and neither should the approach to this runway. Utilizing the SXM VOR prior to the final turns may provide some stability before the final turns). Try this in the heavies!
I wouldn't mind seeing some people try this and post screenshots.
Intothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Thanks a lot for that info.
I'll try these airports over the next couple of days.
An airport located in a volcano, mmmm, didn't know that existed, but it does, super!!!!!
Any more comments are welcome!!!!!
TrijetFan1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 8 Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Well this one may not be really hard, but Scatsta in the Orkney Inslands(i think) is a challenging approach but a really fun one too. Theres a tall hill right infront of the runway. Theres a 5550 ft runway. I love doing Wick-Scatsta, a nice short flight on a BA A320.
Intothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
i'll try all these over the next couple of weeks, i'm sure they will be challenging, i've just tried SESM, hard, almost impossible to get out of the volcano. I've also tried Innsbruck, amazing scenery.
Thanks for all the replies, looks like i'll be busy with fs2004 for the next weeks to try out these airports.
More replies are very welcome.
Oh yes, i recommend Saba as well. St. Barthelemy is also hard to land on.
I'll try to find some more challenging airports.
Antiuser From Italy, joined May 2004, 657 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
SDU (SBRJ) is a tough one... you have to get the touchdown just right or you end up in the water. It's especially challenging when you make the approach from the South, as you have to go around the Sugar Loaf mountain.
Oh, and there's no ILS.
Azzurri Campioni del Mondo!
25 777DadandJr: Tried SESM last night. Geez! What a ride. I tried with the Cessna. Couldn't get out of the hole. Kept stalling. More Power! Managed to climb out with
26 Mighluss: anybody tried Girdwood (AQY), in Alaska? it's a long time since I tried last, but I remember that is sorrounded by mountains very close to the rwy. It
27 UA772IAD: I think Kahului, Maui (OGG/PHOG) is pretty difficult to manever a 777 into. Espeically if you do the "real approach", downwind U-Turn. I also think DC
28 BAW716: I've done the NDB02 approach at SBRJ, downwind leg 1000ft, heading 200, start your turn just after the hill. You should be at 800ft going over the bea
29 Intothinair: I've tried most of these airports now, for me the hardest: Taking off: SESM by way, almost impossible getting out of the volcano. Landing: Still St. B
30 Komododx: Konstantin, Ok, here is the easy way to post screenies without editing too much. 1. Go to Avsim or FlightSim and look for a program called FSScreen an
31 FLY2HMO: SESM and other airports like that aren't in "volcanoes" in real life. Those airports are scenery glitches, where the airport's altitude (or sorroundin
32 PlaneMad: I have just flown a 737 out of MDCZ at light weight. I was feet away from mountains!! Sam D.
33 JAM747: It depends on which type of aircraft you fly . I have flown the B747-400 around the world. the most difficult landings were: ASIA : Japan Narita with
34 Eduardo Lepe: Try this airports: LOWI MMMX TNCM LPMA LICR (Kai Tak Style) SLLP landing runway 10 in a hot day with a B727 or take off 50% fuel with a B727 YPAD with
35 DeltaWings: NOTHING- is worse then landing in Shell Mera, Ecuador. The airport is basicly this hole in the ground, about 1000 feet down. ~DeltaWings
36 Demoose: Just done a visual approach into Funchal r/w 5 (LPMA) with a Thomas Cook 752, great challenge and thankfully i managed to pull off one of my best land
37 Dba4U: You defiently have to check out Paro (VQPR, i guess...), Bhutan. It was a stop on the 2004A worldtour of the IVAO organisation and it simply rocked...
38 Lemmy: I've been trying to get a 737 in and out of Paro (without doing anything really wacky) for a while now, but no luck. I read an account of some test fl
39 Theredbaron: Request a precision radar aproach on Katmandu at night in a storm, with a 737-800.....enough to keep you busy like the energizer bunny
40 Intothinair: Thanks for all these replies Try landing a plane at any airport with 0.1 km visibility, that is hard. Cheers, Konstantin
41 ZKSUJ: I did a 744 flight to McMurdo Base in Anartica, very interesting approach
42 Trekster: SESM is easy. AFTER 10 crashes. u take off with full flaps asap from the runway, get some height, then do a sharp right (i think)turn and spiral up, f
43 ZKSUJ: Ok, Try taking the 744 into McMurdoch Base in Antartica, I mentioned above it was an interesting approach, but I did not mention that if you are not c
44 Intothinair: Exactly the way I get out of SESM. Thanks for that extra feedback TREKSTER and ZKSUJ. Cheers, Konstantin G.
45 Fuffla: Give ZQN a go, Flew there (in real life) in an ANZ 733 and we weaved through the valley in our descent. It is quite scary to look out both sides of th
46 Mandargb: I will suggest Innsbruck (LOWI) in Austria. The default atc will give you a pretty baad approach on IFR. It will bring you down to 11000 and then will
47 Phatfarmlines: A new freeware scenery for Libreville International Airport in Gabon has been recently released. There is a mountain in front of runway 16, but there
48 QANTASforever: You guys should give Gibraltar a try. Remember, you can't just fly over Spain to the west to land on the runway. You have to go through the straights,
49 UAL747: La Paz is horrible taking off or landing even in a narrowbody jet due to the fact that it is over 13,000Ft above sea level and you have to fly in reaa
50 Intothinair: You're spot on. landing at 13,000 feet certainly is NOT easy. I'll give that one a go soon, gotaa be hard! One of my favourite airports. Amazing to l
51 FlyMIA: I did SESM for the first time in the King Air 350 with not much problem. Put the plane at the end of the runway and set full power with Parking brake
52 JAGflyer: Sint Maarten is very easy. RWY 09 is the runway used for landings. I suck at visual approaches (and cannot figure out how to do a VOR approach well) a
53 Intothinair: JAGflyer SXM is relatively easy, true, even 747's can land there. However try landing in Saba or ST. Barthelemy, a lot harder! give those a go, a good
54 Jeffry747: Kai Tak is my favorite challenging airport to fly into. Approach the city parallel to the mountains, with your aircraft fully configured for landing.
55 UPS707: I just did this one yesterday in a DC3 and it was awesome. Between the challenge of the approach and also the acft, it was definately a fun flight to
56 Spark: I just flew from Tromso (ENTC) to Longyearbyen (ENSB), which is the most northerly airport that I have AI traffic (and I believe the most northerly ai
57 Freedomtofly: Funchal/Madiera can be somewhat tricky, Telluride, CO (KTEX) can also be tricky. Obvioulsy Innsbruck has been mentioned many times. You could also try
58 RODOL: All landings are hard for me, that's why I don't take out the AP till i'm over the numbers !
59 Espion007: through my google-fu, I found a pic that shows that SESM isnt as kick-ass and flight sim 2004 makes it http://thehoffmanfamily.com/ipw-web/gallery/ri
60 HighFlyer9790: O yea! ive landed there with an aerodesign machine...it was truely challenging!
61 KL671: While not actually landing at an airport, the most challenging landing and take off I have found is in Arkansas. Take off from Glen Winchester (2AR6)
62 EK156: LOWI and the old Hong Kong Airport!!! They are the toughest for me!
63 N908AW: This is gonna be kinda weird, but FS9 lists the wrong course headings for CRW's 03/21. It's something like 035/217. Yeah that ILS screwed me up real b