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User currently offlineUtilianPilot07 From Honduras, joined Jun 2004, 96 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 6 months 19 hours ago) and read 3056 times:

Hello,

I have recently posted about buying a desktop computer but my parents were wondering if Flight Simulator 2004 would work good with a laptop. The reason for this is I am planning to go to college after I graduate from High School in 2007 hopefully to Embry Riddle, so they feel I should get a laptop so when college comes and I need a computer for school I will have my laptop.

Do you have any comments on this situation or any ideas of good laptops?

Thanks


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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 19 hours ago) and read 3051 times:

I am in your situation right now, having just purchased a laptop for college next year. I was very pleased to learn that FS9 runs very well on the laptop I got, a Gateway M320. It's 1.6 GHz with 480 MB of RAM. I can fly all the high quality add-on aircraft, like the POSKY birds, but scenery and AI aircraft start to slow it down, so I stay away from that. For a laptop, though, I am very pleased.  Smile

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 18 hours ago) and read 3041 times:

I will share my laptop experience both with FS and in college.

I had a Dell Inspiron, 256MB RAM, 30GB HD, Nvidia GeForce 4 graphics card. Not too shaby for when I bought it (June 2002).

I used FS2002 and it worked very well. Then I upgraded to FS9 and it had some trouble when I went to airports whose default scenery is somewhat elaborate (ie. LHR, ORD, JFK). Now the real problem came when I installed Ultimate Traffic. The busiest airport I could fly to was MIA, and I had to have traffic between 75-80% which was not much. At that time I flew small planes so I didn't really care much, but whenever I tried going to bigger airpors (ie. LHR) my framerates would drop to around 3-4 fps!

The other problem came with freeware add-on a/c. Kitty Hawk's 737s worked rather well, not producing big declines in fps. POSKY's a/c reduced fps a little, but it was bearable. Ifdg airbuses were the problem. Not only because it dropped fps a lot but because sometimes it would decide not to load the textures and I'd be flying with a grey a/c.

As far as the experience in college with a laptop, some people recommend against it. For one, I hardly ever took it to school. Sometimes I'd take it to class, but I found taking handwritten notes was better (esp. because before a test I would type up a summary of the notes on Word which would help me memorize/study the subjects). Also, most unversities have very good computer labs. Where I go (Florida State Univ.) we have around 5 PC labs accessible to all students, as well as computer labs exclusive to the different colleges (in the College of Social Sciences we have around 5 or 6 pc labs), so the bottom line is that your laptop will not really be a necessity, esp. if you might be working with higher end programs such as R2, SPSS, SAS, etc, which licenses run in the thousands of dollars.

The other con to laptops is that they are a favorite for thiefs! So beware.

Just my   

EDIT: Forgot to mention that last October my graphics card fried and I started to get the Blue Screen of Death 10 mins after startup, every time I turned on the PC (could've been my res settings). Eventually I had to get a new PC and I just got another Dell, but a desktop this time. Not the top of the line, but close (except for the graphics card). The advantage of a desktop is the ease to be able to add or replace components.

Stefano

[Edited 2005-04-06 05:09:56]

User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 18 hours ago) and read 3031 times:

Quoting Komododx (Reply 2):
Ifdg airbuses were the problem. Not only because it dropped fps a lot but because sometimes it would decide not to load the textures and I'd be flying with a grey a/c.

This program works wonders to solve this problem. Simply open up the texture files, one at a time, and resave them as DXT3 files, as opposed to the 32 bit files they usually come as. It works for all the aircraft, and any texture file, and really speeds up texture loading for the aircraft. Copy this link and it should start the download if you want the program.

ftp://63.217.28.218/1misc/dxtbmp45.zip

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently onlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7107 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 14 hours ago) and read 3022 times:

FS works OK on a laptop, my mate has it on his lapto, seems fine  Smile

User currently offlineDreamer From Norway, joined Jul 2004, 374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 14 hours ago) and read 3018 times:

Ok,, my experience is that a laptop works fine if it is a good one. I have a Pentium M processor at 1,4 and 1 gb ram ( I used to have 512 and it still ran fine) The trick about laptops are that some use integrated graphics on the mother board and share memory with cpu up to a max of something like either 16, 32 or even 64 Mb, this then gets stolen from FS use.

Now, there are laptops with separate graphic card, some even have good cards. They are often sold as multimedia laptops but tend to be expensive. I know both HP and Compaq (same company) have them. I am sure others do to.

Another option is to get a PC builder firm to build you an ultra small form factor desktop. Take a look at this link for size of the box.
http://www.asus.com/products/desktop/pundit-r/overview.htm

-dreamer



still dreaming after all these years
User currently offlineGerry From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 14 hours ago) and read 3016 times:

I agree with Dreamer. If you are going to get a laptop do get a good one. I need a laptop but I also need (not want) Flight Sim and if there was a contest for hard disk space, MSOffice would be dumped before I considered removing FS. FS depends most on the speed of the CPU so get a fast one. I am running FS2002 with Ultimate Traffic and the PMDG 737. I have all the sliders up to the max and the laptop handles it really well. I have a new;
ACER Ferrari 3400 (yes, the red one), with 512Mb RAM, 80 Gb Hard drive an AMD Athlon 64 CPU and a RADEON Mobility 128Mb graphics engine. It flies - no more falling frame rates close to airports either. It costs but boy is it worth it if you are not going to be on MS Office all day long..


User currently offlineDreamer From Norway, joined Jul 2004, 374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 8 hours ago) and read 3000 times:

Gerry, What did you pay for that puppy? Pretty good graphics card too.


still dreaming after all these years
User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 5 hours ago) and read 2983 times:

Dreamer,

You can also get the ultimate Flight Simming machine (according to flightsim.com) and go to Alien Ware

Stefano


User currently offlineDreamer From Norway, joined Jul 2004, 374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 5 hours ago) and read 2978 times:

Stefano, I am pretty happy with my system, I might need a better video card, but everything else is great.
desktop is:
Pentium 4 3,6 Ghz HT with 1 Gb ram 2x 160 Gb disk, DVD player, and DVD burner, TV tuner, TV-out pluss, pluss. 23" monitor at 16 ms and 1920x1200 resolution. My video is ATI radeon x600 pro with 256 Mb.

Laptop as mentioned above ( I am a PC junkie and lucky to work for a big computer company)



still dreaming after all these years
User currently offlineGerry From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2952 times:

Dreamer the ACER cost me $3400 (Australian Dollars). It also included a DVD writer, 3 year warranty, 4 x USB2 ports, wireless networking, 1gb ethernet, smart card reader, docking port - you name it.

User currently offlineFutureUApilot From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1365 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2944 times:

UtilianPilot07, you sound like my twin! I'll be graduating in 2007 and am planning on going to Embry Riddle. Never thought about FS on a laptop... have to try sometime...

-Sam



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User currently offlineJerplane From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2909 times:

Quoting UtilianPilot07 (Thread starter):

I have recently posted about buying a desktop computer but my parents were wondering if Flight Simulator 2004 would work good with a laptop. The reason for this is I am planning to go to college after I graduate from High School in 2007 hopefully to Embry Riddle, so they feel I should get a laptop so when college comes and I need a computer for school I will have my laptop.


Exact same position here, same year problem and possible school!!!!


User currently offlineDreamer From Norway, joined Jul 2004, 374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2899 times:

Quoting Gerry (Reply 10):
Dreamer the ACER cost me $3400

gasp! but you get what you pay for, for sure! very nice laptop you got!



still dreaming after all these years
User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2882 times:

Utilianpilot, buy a cheap desktop and upgrade it to the specs that you want it is much cheper than buying a laptop with 512mb and 64mb graphics. As for the college issue, you don't need a laptop at all. I was woried too because my college recommended me to get a laptop and now that I am here it doesn't make the least difference. My college also offers free laptop rentals for half a day for students, I think a college such as ERAU would offer these programs as well. So why spend 1500 for a laptop when you can have all the best specs for the same price or cheaper on a desktop?

After years of struggling with my cheap laptop on fs2002, I am going to buy a 256mb card and 1gigmb desktop and finaly try fs2004.


User currently offlineLJ45 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2879 times:

It worked fine for a little bit, than it constantly started to freeze alot of the time as i put in an earlier thread.

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