Gofly From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 1727 posts, RR: 46 Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8729 times:
Thanks Chris!
I have tried it, I took a short hop from DUB-LHR. It includes more than meets the eye, like for instance you can set the spacing/time between the aircraft, and the runway roll out speeds. (You need the latest version of FSUIPC)
I flew into LHR, I didn't get put into a holding pattern, but others did! It was great, I didn't have to go-around!
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I've had the last few betas of this program and think it works quite well. At present FSUIPC does not supply bank angle information so you may see aircraft at extreme angles and upside down at times. It does what it says though. There is also AI Traffic Separation (fsaisv1.1.zip on Avsim) that will slew the offending aircraft in reverse a prescribed distance to maintain separation. I have both but haven't put them in a head to head test yet. I'll give it go some time in the next few days.
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Q330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 24 Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8586 times:
Quoting FiddleSticks (Reply 7): I have both but haven't put them in a head to head test yet. I'll give it go some time in the next few days.
I look forward to hearing about that test. I've downloaded both, but haven't installed either yet. I think I'll wait until someone like you gives an actual description of the pros and cons of each.
Jamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8500 times:
i think not getting put into a holding pattern lessens the experience and i think go arounds are pretty cool so personally i think this would be a big waste of time for me
You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
FiddleSticks From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 210 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 8487 times:
I tried out AI Smooth V1 today @ LHR here are the results:
Time monitored: 0930-1030 on Friday (let sim run for one hour before monitoring to get itself sorted out)
Landings varied from 10min early to 1hr+ late.
Takeoffs: 19
Landings: 19
Crashes: 2
Oddities: 2
Go Arounds: 0
Disappearances due to holding short for too long: 0
My Settings (Default):
Oddities: This program didn't get along with the FSPainter 777 all that well. The BA plane slammed HARD into the ground about 5 miles out and went around in circles appearing at the end of the runway every 5 minutes or so.
The UA plane was to arrive at 0855 and at 1030 was still holding, just rolling and rolling. At other times I've seen such problems with other aircraft as well.
I'll get the AI Traffic Traffic Separation test done in the comming days and post my results here.
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FiddleSticks From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 210 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8436 times:
Both addons require FSUIPC (http://www.schiratti.com/dowson.html) latest version is 3.48
The biggest difference between the two programs is what they do to the AI aircraft to get them to conform. AI Smooth instructs the aircraft to do a 180 fly away from the airport three miles and turn back around. FS AI Separation slews the offending aircraft backwards until it a proper distance behind the aircraft in front of it. The biggest problem with AI Smooth is that it has no way to control bank angle so you end up with aircraft flying upside down and flying half way under ground.
My thoughts for what'd work best is FS AI Separation with a larger separation radius than I used would work quite well. Once AI Smooth gets the problem gets the bank angle issue solved I'd reduce the separation time just a bit and that should work quite well also. Bottom line, take your pick.
FS AI Separation results:
I tried it out over the time period as the last test at LHR using identical techniques. Only difference was the AI handling program.
Landings were all on time (+/- 15 min from sched).
Takeoffs: 15
Landings: 27
Crashes: 0
Oddities: 0
Go Arounds: 5
Disappearances due to holding short for too long: 0
Settings:
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UA772IAD From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 1635 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8414 times:
Fiddlesticks:
What is that scanner I see in your sceenshots? Does that come with the program, or is it a separate download, I would love to get a copy, myself.
Q330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 24 Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8409 times:
Thanks for that, FiddleSticks. I'll get around to trying one of them out some day.
Quoting UA772IAD (Reply 16): Fiddlesticks:
What is that scanner I see in your sceenshots? Does that come with the program, or is it a separate download
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the TCAS and flight info scanner come with Ultimate Traffic.
FiddleSticks From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 210 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 8388 times:
The TCAS is part of Ultimate Traffic. The flight info scanner is on avsim.com, just search for tvb_v2.1.zip.
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FiddleSticks From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 210 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8372 times:
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