LHR27C From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 1279 posts, RR: 18 Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 8426 times:
Just in case anyone hasn't noticed, PMDG's eagerly anticipated 747-400 has now been released! You can buy it (then download - your FS PC must have an internet connection by the look of it) from www.precisionmanuals.com .
Price is $54.95 (about £31) which is quite hefty for an FS add on but most likely worth it, considering this aircraft has been under development for 18 months.
Once you have tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned forever skyward
Ready4Pushback From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8342 times:
I think quite a few people are going to have to wait around for it. I've tried buying it, but the website is completely swamped. I've typed in my credit card number (took me 5 hours to get there) and got the dreaded "page cannot be displayed" error - so I don't have the plane and I think I may have been charged.
Also, Avsim.com forums seem to be completely swamped as well - running very slow and getting lots of database errors.
Having seen the pictures and read some of the manual, I can understand why everyone wants it, but I think they could have handled the release alittle better than they have to be honest.
Atco From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 277 posts, RR: 26 Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8336 times:
Quoting Ready4Pushback (Reply 4): I think they could have handled the release alittle better than they have to be honest.
Absolutely, they only had to read their own forums to see what kind of demand there was going to be for this.
I think its pretty poor to have people getting halfway through the ecommerce and not being able to complete their download while they sit and wonder "have I been billed or not?".
I will not attempt to go through the purchase again (not able to get even to the checkout for the past 2 hours) until I can be sure I can get all the way to the end without being booted out of the site.
The lack of ability to handle this release has really surprised me
V true. I think one thing they certainly could have done before the release was to tell people who intended to buy it to go off to their eCommerce site and create an account for themselves - that would have cut down on traffic to and from the server when the product was actually released.
There's going to be a lot of disappointed people today. Anyway - I cannot even look at this until the weekend so I may as well leave off until then.
Incidentally, Avsim have now taken their forums offline completely.
LFutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3195 posts, RR: 31 Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8283 times:
I quote Avsim: "AVSIM Forums Problems
Posted: Tuesday, August 2, 2005 - 18:01
Due to what appears to be extreme demand related to a recent product release, our forums service has had a few problems today.
We have now restored the service, but it remains at risk, and may go offline at any time. We have also had to disable the PMDG Support Forum due to exceptional levels of demand impacting the remainder of our forums service.
The AVSIM Technical Staff"
hmmm... wonder what was released today??? LOL... i know i know.
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Quote: Due to heavy server volume, we are temporarily preventing access to the shopping cart. Please check back soon
...so it looks as though it's stopped selling for a while. I reckon it probably is to give the folks that have sucessfully bought it a chance to install their product (since the installer also need to contact their website).
CX881 From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2003, 236 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8211 times:
Hey Guys -
Like BritPilot777 was asking, when is this thing going to be able to be purchase on CD version? I like having it that way so that I can have the CD and its easier to download onto the computer.
Erwin972 From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 499 posts, RR: 50 Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8205 times:
"Customer resonse to the release of our PMDG 747-400 Queen of the Skies has far exceeded expectations.
As a result, in order to provide the level of service we expect from our company, it is necessary to take the entire server offline for reconfiguration in order to handle the unexpected demand.
During this period you will not be able to purchase or download any products from PMDG. We regret the inconvenience, we are working quickly to resolve the problem, and do not expect it to be a lengthy upgrade.
LHR27C From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 1279 posts, RR: 18 Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8184 times:
Yep it seems this high demand really caught AVSIM and PMDG by surprise! I will steer well clear of downloading it until the demand settles down...
Don't expect a CD version for a while. The Aerosoft version for the 737NG took a long time to come out. This subject came up on the PMDG forums sometime ago, it was stated that they have no firm contract with Aerosoft for the 744.
Once you have tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned forever skyward
BA767s From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8175 times:
Ahhh crap! Was going to download this afternoon but had to go to Ikea and now look, got home and it says I have to wait! Grrr damn Ikea nd ur flat packs. Oh well jus gives me more time to read the ops manuals :P Check back to PMDG at 01:30 guys nd girls!
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9210 posts, RR: 42 Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8145 times:
How terrible am I? With all the hoohah going on about the Air France crash in Toronto and given that reports were starting to flood in that everyone had survived, it occurred to me that while half the world and his dog was on the Civil Aviation discussions, the PMDG site might be quieter. How right I was. I've downloaded the manual and some liveries!
It'll take half the night for the manual to print so I'll start reading it tomorrow and probably try to buy it early next week. I've got people coming over at the weekend and if I download it before then, there's no way I'll have the place ready for them!
JumboForever From France, joined Jul 2005, 199 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8110 times:
Well I could download and install it yesterday and I wanted to write about it but with the Air France crash I though it was a little bit displaced to write about this.
Now that we know that there are no casualties I feel a little bit more comfortable to write about the PMDG 744. But first, if there is a God out-there, whatever you call it I guess we should all pray to thank Him for the saving theses passenger.
To come back to the 744, first I guess I'm was lucky as I could download it as soon as it had been released. I just check the PMDG homepage before leaving my office yesterday night (Japan time) and I downloaded it immediately as I was expecting their server to be pretty busy later. I wouldn't imagine their server was going to overheat that much though.
As for the soft in itself, it's difficult to get an opinion on such a complex A/C as I only tried it for a couple of hours. I'm a big fan of the LSD767 and I can say that the 744 is at least equal in quality. The models are great, the panels (2D and VC) are very sharp and easy to read. I did a short flight from HND to FUK and the FMC and autopilot behaved perfectly. A truly good experience. I'll try a longer flight after work tonight.
However it's pricey! 54.99$ is a lot. I expected a price around 50$ however. Is it worth it. Well I guess it depends on people. You can guess by my login name that I'm biased for the 747 so I didn't mind paying.
Hope the PMDG website will be back online quickly so that you can enjoy it too.
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9210 posts, RR: 42 Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8032 times:
I didn't pay much less than that for their 737 and I reckon it was worth it. The 747 is supposed to be better, and looks as though it is, so I'll have no hesitation in buying it.
I don't quite understand the common comparison between the price of an add-on and the price of FS. FS provides a framework, add-ons provide features that individual users particularly want. I suppose if you want to fly every aircraft under the sun then you probably shouldn't spend much on any of them - the same with scenery. Since I bought the PMDG 737, I've hardly flown anything else. It'll probably be the same with the 747... and eventually the PSS Condorde (or equivalent)!
Justplanecrazy From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 536 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8025 times:
If PMDG's 747 is as good as their 737NG then the price is a bargain.I remember just a few years ago in 2000 when adds were laughable because they were so bad and yet people were spending the same kind of money on them. Imagine how much people in the year 2000 would have spent for todays quality add ons.I think were very lucky.
your pilots today on this 747 flight are captain oliver hardy and assisting will be FO stan laurel.Have a safe flight
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9210 posts, RR: 42 Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8024 times:
Quoting Justplanecrazy (Reply 23): just a few years ago in 2000 when adds were laughable because they were so bad
So true. There was one publisher (can't remember the name) whose installation processes were so bad that it was talked about in magazines. They threatened to sue, rather than apologising or addressing the issues. I had to install one title manually and gave up on a second. I ended up throwing all their stuff out and they didn't seem to last much longer. Their titles weren't much cheaper than PMDG's.
25 LorM: I'm going to quote Lou Betti from a very well done and insightful 4 page interview done by Joe M. Besser, published in the MAY/JUNE 2005
26 David L: Nice one, LorM. I think those who think the next FS should have far more aircraft, more detailed scenery at every airport, moving traffic on the highw
27 Ready4Pushback: I have been trying to buy and download now since it was released, and have only just managed to do it. their site seems to be much more responsive no
28 BA767s: Hoorah Its downloading! Ill keep you guys updated on how the whole process went! Laters.. John
29 Erwin972: Good news here too: downloading now! Kind regards, Erwin
30 Espion007: Holy s#$t! Im looking at the details on the site and I feel like buying this thing even though Ive only paid for payware once (cause im cheap ).All th
31 BA767s: Hey I've just flown it around a little it takes a few secs to "warm up", very impressed with the VC but am having a few lil probs that I have contacte
32 BritPilot777: Hey Gusy Couple of Q Once its been downloaded, is it possible to store it on a USB drive or something? Incase you need to format your computer or some
33 BA767s: Yep I believe its like the Level D 767 where if you have to move it to another PC you can jus use your Order Number, username and password to download
34 Erwin972: You have one EXE file... you can store it wherever you want or burn it on CD. On installing the software it askes for the e-mail, password and order I
35 Apuneger: How about the FPS compared to the 737NG? Any news on that issue? Greets, Ivan
36 JumboForever: The FPS are good. Slightly better than LDS767 using the 2D panel, and way better using the VC. The refresh rate of the gauge is impressive! Can't com
37 LHR27C: Yes now I come to think of it a question for anyone who's got it, I believe the CDUs provide some sort of ACARS functionality - have you tried it? Wha
38 David L: Looking through the manual, it looks like the ACARS features are to appear "in the future".
39 Alphafloor: Maybe a stupid question guys but how does it compares vs the PSS744 ? Yes I know it can be run under fs9 but what else ? Alphafloor
40 BA767s: My bad, there are no problems with it, I just suggest once you buy just have a good play with it! Enjoy.. John
41 Flyer737sw: FPS are looking pretty good...Getting 22-25 no problem in SFO and in LAX...The plane is absolutely awesome...The detail, procedures, and sounds for th
42 Justplanecrazy: Hopefully im going to get it today.Only negative about it is its fuel consumption.