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Is The PSS A320 The Best 320 Available?  
User currently offlineAak777 From Qatar, joined Apr 2001, 284 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 28390 times:

I would like to buy a new payware and it has to be an A320, i know the PSS model is a good one but I think its a little bit old now.
So is there a newer A320 payware available on the net. by the way my main considieration is to have the max amownt of system switches to be working.

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User currently offlineA3204eva From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1060 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 28404 times:

PSS are crap and HIGHLY unrealistic both in looks and controls.

I would look towards the EuroWings A320 which I have found to be the best so far. Although some freewares do look better.

Save you're money and get a decent A320 or a freeware model.



"They have lady pilots......... they're not that good, but they have 'em"
User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 28385 times:

Yep - the IFDG A320 is great:

http://www.ifdg.net

DC-10


User currently offlineAC21365 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 402 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 28340 times:

Quoting DC-10 Levo (Reply 2):
Yep - the IFDG A320 is great:

http://www.ifdg.net

DC-10

I second that. All of their A3XX series planes are awsome!


User currently offlineGg190 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 28342 times:

A vert good freeware 320 panel can be found at:

http://emarciano.flightsimmer.com/


User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 28336 times:

Why pay for an aircraft when you can get it for free?

-They use the same Technology
-They use the same program

Freeware aircraft don't usually come with sounds, panels or Liveries. That is the only difference and because you are paying you get it all together.

Every single iFDG aircraft is excellent quality and worth it. The PSS model is waaaaaay Crap!!!

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineZSOFN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1413 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 28324 times:

Guys - simple  Smile

iFDG model, panel by Mitch.

No need to pay any money.


User currently offlineQ330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 28323 times:

I have the PSS A320 and I definitely reccomend it. The panel is very functional and realistic, though not on quite the same level as PMDG. Yes, the model is crap but I'd go for the better panel any day. The best option is to merge the PSS panel with iFDG's superb model and get the best of both worlds!

A3204eva, do you know of any good reviews of the Eurosoft A320? I'd like to find out more about it.

-Q



Long live the A330!
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21562 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 28306 times:

I've yet to see a freeware panel that can do anything close to what the PSS panel can. Yeah, the model may not look as good as IFDG, but I fly the plane from the inside, not the outside.

If all you care about is a good model, IFDG is for you. But if you want realism, get the PSS. It's an old product, and there are better payware planes out there (PMDG and Level-D spring to mind, along with Flight1 for GA stuff), but it's still a good investment. I have all the Airbuses, and use them frequently (I spent an hour and a half shooting approaches with the 330 last night), and there's not a better Airbus package out there.

Here's a link to the Flightsim.com review of it when it first came out, in 2002:

http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/kds?$=main/review/pssair/pssair.htm

A google search for "Eurosoft A320" came up empty - I'd be interested in hearing more about that.

-Mir



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User currently offlineGg190 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 28271 times:

He said Eurowings A320. The software is published by aerosoft.

User currently offlineA3204eva From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1060 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 28267 times:

For all who want to have a look at the EW A320/A319 package:

http://aerosoft-shop.com/product_info.php?cPath=3&products_id=4

Scott  Smile



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21562 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 28245 times:

Sorry for the mistake about the name.

From the screenshots on the website, I find the PSS panel to be much better looking (i.e. more in line with the real thing in terms of proportion, etc.). PSS also has an Airbus' FMC, not an ATR72's.

-Mir



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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 28226 times:

PSS + points;

*80% of the systems are included
*nice FDE's
*very good MCDU, 90% operational like the real MCDU
*very good frame rates
*incorporated FBW, not the most realistic one, but acceptable!
*CFM/GE/PW/V2500 EICAS supported
*MCDU reads FS9 flightplans and converts it
*support from www.navdata.at
*Throttles are operated with realistic GATE movements
*can be perfectly merged with IFDG/POSKY

PSS - points

*standard exterior model is not the best
*battery and electric operation is not realistic
*no IRS
*no TERR function
*no weather radar
*standard sounds are crap
*no realistic ALPHA FLOOR and flight limitations system


but certainly I recommend it!
most serious - points can be fixed by merges and overall you recieve a nice Airbus feel and look!


User currently offlineQ330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 28212 times:

I have to agree with Mir that from those screenies, the Eurowings panel doesn't look as realistic as the PSS one. What's with that ATR FMC? Silly

I think SWISSER summed up the PSS 320 pretty well, although many of his negative points can be adressed: The panel can be merged with the iFDG model for a much better exterior look and more realistic sounds can easily be added. AFAIK, there are no add-ons with weather or terrain radar so I don't think that's a specific negative of the PSS panel.

-Q



Long live the A330!
User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 28209 times:

Quoting Q330 (Reply 13):
AFAIK, there are no add-ons with weather or terrain radar so I don't think that's a specific negative of the PSS panel.

well, the new feelthere B737-classic will have it!
also Dash 8-300 payware has it!

but I do want to express that PSS is really good if you compare it to the real Airbus layout! I have experience on the SN flight academy's "real sim", and compared to it, it is a great product!

I also stumbled on a german software developer who claims to have made a perfect A340 considering systems and especially the FBW, but I was unable to succesfully make contact with the guy...
It included TERR and weather I believe!

search for apollo software A340, I forgot the link...
off course he only got the A340, nothing more.

[Edited 2005-09-22 02:19:00]

User currently offlineAak777 From Qatar, joined Apr 2001, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 28186 times:

Thanx for the reply u all.
I started this thread cause I am sort of addicted to FS and I will be doing My type rating on the A320, do you think that a totally functional cockpit and systems for the A320 will be available for FS?

I already have the PMDG 737 NG but I try not to fly it now a days so it wont confuse me with what I learn.


User currently offlineJasond From Australia, joined Jul 2009, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 28181 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 8):
If all you care about is a good model, IFDG is for you. But if you want realism, get the PSS. It's an old product, and there are better payware planes out there (PMDG and Level-D spring to mind, along with Flight1 for GA stuff), but it's still a good investment. I have all the Airbuses, and use them frequently (I spent an hour and a half shooting approaches with the 330 last night), and there's not a better Airbus package out there.

Agreed with the added caveat that the iFDG model merged with the PSS panel is worth the purchase price of the orginal A320 to start with. I also believe it's half price right now too. As for the A330 do the same merge with the Project Opensky models, you won't regret it


User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 28190 times:

Quoting Aak777 (Reply 15):
Thanx for the reply u all.
I started this thread cause I am sort of addicted to FS and I will be doing My type rating on the A320, do you think that a totally functional cockpit and systems for the A320 will be available for FS?

I already have the PMDG 737 NG but I try not to fly it now a days so it wont confuse me with what I learn.

PSS is a great way to learn the systems, but for a real feel, you won't be satisfied compared to a real A32S.

Also the climb rating is quite fast on the PSS and the sidestick movement is not 100% a real feel, like the climb maneuvre etc.
for the unprofessional pilot they are no problem at all, but people with real experience notice it!

Maybe check apollo software,
I saw yesterday they have a A320 too!
But still, both PSS and Apollo are for fun, just learning the systems on them is exellent, but flying will always be different.
I did not check apollo yet, but certainly will and comment on it!
(if I' am able to contact that guy!)


User currently offlineDeC From Greece, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 26909 times:

How about this one people?

WILCO's A320 Pilot in Command

http://www.wilcopub.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=prod_A320PIC



DEC
User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9524 posts, RR: 42
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 26904 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 8):
I've yet to see a freeware panel that can do anything close to what the PSS panel can. Yeah, the model may not look as good as IFDG, but I fly the plane from the inside, not the outside.

Agreed. A lot of these comments sound remarkably similar to those made about the "crap", "waste of money" PMDG 744 when it came out!

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 12):

Good post but...

Quoting Q330 (Reply 13):
AFAIK, there are no add-ons with weather or terrain radar so I don't think that's a specific negative of the PSS panel.

True, well very few, anyway.  Smile

The PSS/iFDG merge sounds interesting, though.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21562 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 26901 times:

Quoting DeC (Reply 18):
How about this one people?

WILCO's A320 Pilot in Command

http://www.wilcopub.com/index.cfm?fu...20PIC

No way! Wilco's 320 has been pretty much ignored by the FS community, which says something when it came out after the PSS did, and thusly should be more advanced. Besides - it's only a 320. With PSS you get a 319, 320 and 321.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineDeC From Greece, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 26900 times:

Thanks a lot Mir, and it is quite expensive as well compared to the PSS!


DEC
User currently offlineDeC From Greece, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 26884 times:

Wanted to ask, about PSS A320, does it only work with a joystick?


DEC
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21562 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 26872 times:

Quoting DeC (Reply 22):
Wanted to ask, about PSS A320, does it only work with a joystick?

If you mean as opposed to a yoke, then no - you can use whatever control device you want. If you mean as opposed to the keyboard, then I don't know.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 26847 times:

the PSS 'bus will not work with the keyboard.
The Aerosoft 'bus uses the old Dreamfleet FMC which is a 737-400 unit and so not at all related to Airbus technology.

Yes, the PSS 'bus is the best on the market despite being 4 years old.
It shows its age by now of course, but as long as noone brings a new product it will remain where it is, at the very top.



I wish I were flying
25 A3204eva : I'm waiting on the SSW 320 to come out. It looks realistic this time!
26 Qantas744ER : Why not merge? PSS with IFDG wouldnt be a problem...thats what i did with the pss777 because the model is SHIT i use the Meljet merge from SWISSER wit
27 Post contains links and images VinnieWinnie : Well if u want to have everything freeware may I kindly suggest all of you to use: -idfg planes -have a look at the download page of this website: htt
28 Post contains images AR1300 : I downloaded a sound pack that is just great. Plus the IFDG model,panel and Wingviews= the best plane ever for FS9 Mike
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