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A Few FS Bugs...  
User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1883 posts, RR: 54
Posted (8 years 12 months 18 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

Hello everyone.

I have encountered a few very annoying FS bugs. First off is one of the approaches for AMS (Forgot what runway). The AI aircraft enter the approach at around 4000ft and then when 3 miles out they dive and hit the runway thus dissappearing. My heart skipped a beat when I saw a KLM 744 smash into the runway but was reminded it was FS. Any help with this one?

Another annoying aspect is that at airports like Malpensa(Milan) and Jomo Kenyatta (Nairobi , Kenya) where the runways are surfaced with bituminis(spelling?). Now , the FS system interprets the runway surface to be grass. So , the aircraft bounce up and down when on the runway creating the most unrealistic effect.

Any help with these small , yet annoying bugs?

Thanks in advance.

-SA006


Proudly South African
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User currently offlineGofly From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 1727 posts, RR: 38
Reply 1, posted (8 years 12 months 18 hours ago) and read 2398 times:
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Quoting SA006 (Thread starter):
So , the aircraft bounce up and down when on the runway creating the most unrealistic effect.

I'm no expert with the remodelling of scenery, but I know when I bought my UK2000 scenery it stated in the book that they had had that problem. They way they had sorted it was to make to runway concrete/asphalt and place a grass texture on top. I'm not sure how you would do that though.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.  Smile

-Gofly



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User currently offlineBaylorAirBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (8 years 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 2366 times:

Quoting SA006 (Thread starter):
A Few FS Bugs

Understatement of the year Big grin

I'll have to check out AMS. That sounds like loads of fun.

BAB



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User currently offlineJustplanecrazy From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 536 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 12 months 5 hours ago) and read 2343 times:

Also at PHNL (honolulu) on approach to runway 22 aircraft go straight through a mountain on aproach(now thats what i call a bumpy flight),and some aircraft descend at 15,000 per min from their cruising altitude.Some of these virtual pilots MS employ shouldnt be allowed anywhere near a virtual aircraft.  Big grin


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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

Quoting SA006 (Thread starter):
Any help with these small , yet annoying bugs?

both are adjustable in the AFCAD tool found in FS9's folders somewhere,
altough I don't have much experience on it, but tried it on terrain issues in Switzerland, unfortunatly without succes, but the grass runway can be shifted to concrete asphalt!


User currently offlineEclipseFlight7 From Somalia, joined Apr 2004, 518 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2214 times:

Quoting Justplanecrazy (Reply 3):
Also at PHNL (honolulu) on approach to runway 22 aircraft go straight through a mountain on aproach(now thats what i call a bumpy flight),and some aircraft descend at 15,000 per min from their cruising altitude.

The first problem can't be fixed, as MS aircraft don't follow approaches but rather fly in straight. When a plane hits a mountain, it disappears.

Second problem again can't be fixed because aircraft will try anything to get on the approach, including suicidal dives. If you wait about 15 minutes these problems won't occur as the AI engine will settle down and aircraft will start flying how their supposed to.



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User currently offlineJustplanecrazy From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 536 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2189 times:

Quoting EclipseFlight7 (Reply 5):


Actually the plane does not disappear you can follow it through the mountain in spot view.



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User currently offlineFutureUApilot From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1365 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2185 times:

Quoting SA006 (Thread starter):
The AI aircraft enter the approach at around 4000ft and then when 3 miles out they dive and hit the runway thus dissappearing.

That means there is some problem with the AFCAD and Gate assignments. From what I am told if there isn't a gate availiable for the aircraft when it lands, it will disappear. Try tinkering with the AFCAD and flightplans.

Cheers!
-Sam



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User currently offlineEclipseFlight7 From Somalia, joined Apr 2004, 518 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2183 times:

Quoting Justplanecrazy (Reply 6):
Actually the plane does not disappear you can follow it through the mountain in spot view.

If a plane enters land and exits in about 5-10 seconds it will still appear, although without labels. After that its removed.

Quoting FutureUApilot (Reply 7):
That means there is some problem with the AFCAD and Gate assignments. From what I am told if there isn't a gate availiable for the aircraft when it lands, it will disappear.

Your correct that a plane will disappear without a gate, but the problem detailed above will not be solved through changing gate assignments but rather through approach patterns. There's and entire discussion on how to get aircraft to fly safe approaches with something to do with placing a marker 70 miles away from the airport, but to be honest I don't know the details.



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User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1883 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2166 times:

Hi guys.

Just been checking. I visited a few more airports with "Bituminis" surfacing on their runways and I get the same effect for each airport. I would think it would be an afcad problem but why for every single runway surfaced with this??

-SA006



Proudly South African
User currently offlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2155 times:

I don't know about all those bituminus runways you've tested, and I've never flown into Milan, but last time I flew into Nairobi on FS9, it had a non-grass runway - though I don't remember whether it was bituminus or concrete, but certainly something more serious than grass. Maybe something wrong with your computer?


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