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User currently offlineA330Fan From Ireland, joined Aug 2005, 207 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 13052 times:

Hey anyone planning on buying the PSS 777 when it comes out soon??? I loved their Airbus Series! Can't wait to get my hands on the 777-300ER!!!


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User currently offlineEclipseFlight7 From Somalia, joined Apr 2004, 518 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 13031 times:

Are you kidding me? Have you looked at the screenshots? The model is appaling. The only thing correct on it is its landing gear, the rest looks like crap.

Not to mention its 125 dollars. FeelThere is working on a 777, and when FeelThere makes a plane, you know its good.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21641 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 13028 times:

I'm not entirely wild about a 777-300ER without a 777-200ER, but I'll probably get it. I'll have to confirm first that it isn't a frame rate killer - PSS put a serious VC in this one, and if there's one thing I hate, it's VCs, and particularly big, frame-eating ones.

By the way, does this graphic look off, or is it just me?

http://www.avsim.com/pss/screenshots/777n9.jpg


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-Mir



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21641 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 13029 times:

Quoting EclipseFlight7 (Reply 1):
when FeelThere makes a plane, you know its good.

I'm not very fond of their CRJ, but their ERJ is pretty good. I just wish they'd spend more time on the documentation.

To be fair, remember that back when FS2000 was around, the 767PIC (which eventually became the Level-D) was considered the best add-on ever, despite a highly crappy visual model.

-Mir



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User currently offlineA330Fan From Ireland, joined Aug 2005, 207 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 13005 times:

Quoting EclipseFlight7 (Reply 1):
Not to mention its 125 dollars.

Where did you get that price??  laughing 



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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 12961 times:

BTW,
feelthere will make there 777 not PIC wich means with less detail than on the ERJ PIC or the 737 PIC.
It is even rumoured that the FMC is not functional...

I can only assume the FS community is crying out load for a 777-200ER and I hope the 777LR of PSS can be converted into a 772ER, at least I will give it a shot to get them merged with Melvin Rafi's meljet's!

The Previous PSS 777-meljet merge was a piece of cake compared to the PSS posky ifdg merges, but I could do it afterall...

will see if I can do a merge now!


User currently offlineLHR27C From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 1279 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12933 times:

On a side note, it seems that the PSS 777 will have a built in functional weather radar (into the ND), a first for an FS add-on - up until now there has only been a Reality XP weather radar and I believe ASV includes one.


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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12933 times:

I am planning on buying the aircraft, though likely not all 3 models.
If I hadn't needed some rather expensive maintenance on my car and new glasses this month, draining my bank account, I'd have preordered it.

Their work is excellent, their 777 a classic in the FS world.
Sure there are others who make nicer looking external models but PSS excell in flight models (not counting the 340 series which they outsourced for reasons known to me but under confidentiality) and panels, they build for pilots not spotters.

For me their models are excellent. Low (relatively) impact for something that looks good enough from a distance, excellent flight characteristics and panel functionality.



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User currently offlineA330Fan From Ireland, joined Aug 2005, 207 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 12867 times:

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 7):
Sure there are others who make nicer looking external models but PSS excell in flight models (not counting the 340 series which they outsourced for reasons known to me but under confidentiality) and panels, they build for pilots not spotters.

Very very true! The Airbus Series are a joy to fly and i'm sure this 777 will be some of their best work yet!



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User currently offlinePlanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 12859 times:

Why do they have a 772LR model coupled to 7772/2ER operators?

User currently offlineUKA330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 12854 times:
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After looking at the prices  wideeyed 

All three Aircraft Variants (House Livery) £45 SAVES £15 !
ALL (18) 777200LR liveries £50
All (9) 777200LRF Liveries £25
All (17) 777300ER liveries £50
ALL B777 Liveries £100

I think I'll wait for the disk version!!


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 12817 times:

Quoting Planesailing (Reply 9):
Why do they have a 772LR model coupled to 7772/2ER operators?

That's a good question. For some reason they elected not to create a -200ER model but there were many requests from users for ER liveries so they were applied to the LR instead.
Except range characteristics between the two are quite similar for the crew so there's not much of a problem (just don't look at the wingtips which do differ).

My guess is they couldn't get good enough performance figures on the ER to make an FDE they could sell.



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User currently offlineZSOFN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1413 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 12814 times:

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 11):
Except range characteristics between the two are quite similar for the crew so there's not much of a problem (just don't look at the wingtips which do differ

Different bypass engines too.

I gotta say all in all this thing's a bit of a rip off.


User currently offlinePlanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 12790 times:

You say its a rip off, but I got quite a good deal. Ive only ordered the 773ER plus real world liveries.

1X 777_300ER_Pro_Base @ £15
1X 773ER_Air_France @ £5
1X 773ER_Emirates @ £5
1X 773ER_EVA_Airways @ £5
1X 773ER_Singapore_AL @ £5
1X 773ER_Air_India @ £5
1X 773ER_PIA @ £5

Subtotal - £45.00
49% Discount
Total: £22.95

A 49% discount was fabulous! So for the cost of the 6 liveries, was only £7.95.

I will report back when it is released.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21641 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 12776 times:

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 11):
My guess is they couldn't get good enough performance figures on the ER to make an FDE they could sell.

I'd have a hard time believing that they couldn't find enough data on the ER but yet had no problem with the LR. Especially since they made an ER for FS2000. The LR hasn't been flying for that long.

-Mir



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User currently offlineEclipseFlight7 From Somalia, joined Apr 2004, 518 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 12759 times:

Quoting Planesailing (Reply 13):
A 49% discount was fabulous! So for the cost of the 6 liveries, was only £7.95.

I will report back when it is released.

In this day and age it's rediculous to pay for liveries. Free repaints, like that of PMDG, are obviously the way to go. Why should someone pay for a repaint when there are hundreds of people out there willing to make it for free?

Quoting A330Fan (Reply 4):
Where did you get that price??

For three aircraft variants its 100 dollars. So I was slightly off, but it's overpriced nonetheless.



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User currently offlinePlanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 12750 times:

Quoting EclipseFlight7 (Reply 15):
In this day and age it's rediculous to pay for liveries. Free repaints, like that of PMDG, are obviously the way to go. Why should someone pay for a repaint when there are hundreds of people out there willing to make it for free?

This is very true, but their model is cheaper than that of the PMDG model.


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 12717 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 14):
I'd have a hard time believing that they couldn't find enough data on the ER but yet had no problem with the LR. Especially since they made an ER for FS2000. The LR hasn't been flying for that long.

There's now a message on their support forums. They just wanted something different they'd not done before, an excellent reason.

Quoting EclipseFlight7 (Reply 15):
In this day and age it's rediculous to pay for liveries. Free repaints, like that of PMDG, are obviously the way to go. Why should someone pay for a repaint when there are hundreds of people out there willing to make it for free?

That's your choice. With PMGD you pay for all those liveries as well, it's just hidden inside the price of the total product.
PSS gives me a choice to not pay that price if I don't want to, something I've always appreciated.
Liveries don't come free. Someone has to make them which takes time. Time is money, money that is recovered in the price of the product.

Quoting Planesailing (Reply 16):
This is very true, but their model is cheaper than that of the PMDG model.

Read above for the reason why...



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User currently offlineEclipseFlight7 From Somalia, joined Apr 2004, 518 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12685 times:

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 17):
Liveries don't come free. Someone has to make them which takes time. Time is money, money that is recovered in the price of the product.

Then why are there thousands of free liveries on Avsim?



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User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12658 times:

I have a friend who was testing the PSS 777, and he said that the model is not at all as it seems to look. They took the shots on a crappy system, and that's why it looks crappy..

Right now, I bought the 3-model pak for 62.99 USD..

Chris



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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 12635 times:

Quoting EclipseFlight7 (Reply 18):
Then why are there thousands of free liveries on Avsim?

We both know I was talking about the liveries that come with commercial products as standard.
Those you need to pay to have made, a cost I'd just as soon avoid if I can.



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User currently offlineQantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1286 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 12632 times:

Hey, i think the from wat ive seen now the panel is great, and i think that on the pc were those screen shots were made is shit.
So i pre ordered the 777-300ER and the emirates livery for only 16 pounds!!!

Can´t wait to FLY IT!!!
have a nice day.

Cheers Leo



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User currently offlineRC4050 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 12518 times:
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I just ordered the 777LR and yeah the price does suck but they usually have great panels and systems, but I will wait out for free repaints.

User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3509 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12392 times:

Quoting RC4050 (Reply 22):
I just ordered the 777LR and yeah the price does suck but they usually have great panels and systems, but I will wait out for free repaints.

PSS great systems? Airbuses were good as for FS2000 standards but 330/340 were buggy crap never fully patched with very simplistic systems comparing to other addons. Visuals model usually poor as well - even worse this time.

I am amazed how many people will still spend a lot of cash to buy crappy PSS products.


User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 12377 times:

Danny- I find your argument strewn with gaping defects in logic..

Obviously you haven't seen the LATEST screenshots. If you had, you wouldn't be talking trash about PSS like that.. The 340 WAS outsourced, but the T7 was not..

Chris



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25 Danny : What do you mean? 340 wasn't done by PSS? Even if that was true it was PSS product and it was crap. On the other side screenshots are only screenshot
26 A3204eva : TBH all pss a/c are utter crap. They look crap, act unrealistically and are just generally bad a/c. Paying for liveries is also on way to make yoursel
27 Qantas744ER : hey, in my opinion, it depends from wat computer you have, cause i kno that the best computers can even make the crappyest planes look good, and dont
28 ZSOFN : Yeah but surely it's all relative. Bad models are bad models after all. If they look worse than other models on his system then your point is not val
29 FlyMIA : PSS Dash-8-300 is great. Model is great cockpit it great. Flight Dynamics I have heard are realitic. Dash-8 pilot said the cockpit was very good and e
30 A3204eva : My computer is powerful, FS frames are around 100 even with scenery and PSS doesn't look any better cos they're generally crap. And I can predict the
31 SWISSER : Maybe you're right on the visual model, but I have a lot of experience comparing the performances of the A32S and A330/A340 on the real Level-D simul
32 Post contains images Airlinelover : YAY! Pre-release is out!!!!!!!!! Chris
33 Jasond : Got the LR today and was as per expectations. As usual the visual model isn't great but the panel is what you buy it for. Hopefully there will be a me
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