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A Shameful Payware Release  
User currently offlineMika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2914 posts, RR: 3
Posted (9 years 9 months 12 hours ago) and read 4890 times:

Just found this site through the avsim headlines page...check out how badly modeled many of these MSFS addon planes are, there are freeware versions avialable from other makers that by far succeed these payware ones.

Somethingt hat they claim is a A319. Look at the cockpit windows how large they are and the CFM engines...IFDG's A32x is worlds better modelled than this!

A310. The front section of the aircraft reminds me more of the B777 than the A310, the bulging shape of the upper first half of the aircraft.

Supposed Airbus A340-300. Anyone esthetically knowing of the A340-300 can say that those engines look like the CFM's on the A340 or that the cockpit section looks anything like the real A340s one!

Same applies for their A330, engines and cockpit secion wrongly modelled.

I really coulnd't believe all this when i first saw it, this is a payware package that these guys want $29 for. All of the above is avialable to download for free and those IFDG and Posky models are very accurately modelled. Either these guys have people who model the planes that have no or very little interest in aviation or they just want to get money from a bad product.


[Edited 2005-11-04 17:27:32]

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User currently offlineJamman From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 12 hours ago) and read 4884 times:

I agree!
Well I've always thought some Abacus titles were always below par (I used to do software reviews for FSnordic), they seem to have a quantity not quality production ethic.
Your best off with PSS addon's for payware airbus'

Phoning it in from a place with no phones.
User currently offlineA3204eva From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1060 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 10 hours ago) and read 4848 times:

PSS isn't at the bottom now Big grin Make way for that crap!

"They have lady pilots......... they're not that good, but they have 'em"
User currently offlineGEEZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 10 hours ago) and read 4834 times:

Oh my...!

They are a pile of shit!

Chris  wave 

User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9627 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 10 hours ago) and read 4832 times:

That's a pity. Their VC-10 is superb.

User currently offlineDreamer From Norway, joined Jul 2004, 374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 10 hours ago) and read 4830 times:

I have several ABACUS add-ons (3) and to be honest I'll never buy another one, they are baaaaaad, but then again, they are cheap... and they install easily (important for some) so I guess they are kind of OK, for some

still dreaming after all these years
User currently offlineAirbus340 From Spain, joined Dec 2000, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 4792 times:

...The airbus A340's cockpit windows look like the 767 ones! Big grin

User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 4792 times:

I have the a380 and VC10 from them. Decent enough programs, good framerate on the comp and verygood price for what your getting.

The 380 has virtual cabin and cockpit (cabin is both floors) and the vc10 hasa good virtual cockpit

User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 4 hours ago) and read 4764 times:

The A330 looks like a 767 with winglets  duck 


Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 4760 times:

Quoting Trekster (Reply 7):
verygood price for what your getting.

But why pay at all when you can get better for free?


Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineGEEZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 2 hours ago) and read 4741 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 9):
But why pay at all when you can get better for free?

Hear hear!

User currently offlineJeffry747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 965 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 1 hour ago) and read 4731 times:
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Quoting GEEZ (Reply 10):

I look at this payware crap and I can't help but say your username out loud

C'mon Big B, FLY!
User currently offlineQ330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4707 times:

Ugh! Just look at the panel. It's absolutely awful! ill  If you're after any realism at all, this package looks worthless.


Long live the A330!
User currently offlineDreamer From Norway, joined Jul 2004, 374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4704 times:

OK, I'll say again, I too have the A380 (installed easy, runs as easy as default MSFS planes, but lacks realistic panel, and is very uneventful. However it is OK for the low price, and nothing on AVSIM installs that easy and works right away, usually you need to mess with panels and stuff.

I also have their carrier operations, which at least has loads of planes and carriers, and is fun to fly.

My third package from them is Fighter pilots, works ok, but again, the panels are unrealistic and the models are not very good looking, but again they are OK.

So I'd say that if you prefer planes that install easily and fly straight away and want planes that runs with out framerate hits and doesn't hog diskspace, go for ABACUS. Do you want realistic planes that look really good, stay away from it.

So to sum it up, I have been disapointed with ABACUS, but then again, I have compared it to other packages that are more than twice the price, and those expensive packages DO NOT run well on a smaller PC, ABACUS does.

ABACUS gives loads of fun with their add-ons for little money, runs on a slow PC that is unable to run the larger packages, both because of disk space needed and resources. Mayby they are OK after all ???

........................but not for the experts like GEEZ, Lee, Harry and others

still dreaming after all these years
User currently offlineIberiadc852 From Spain, joined May 2005, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4667 times:

Quoting Mika (Thread starter):

I think the Iberia one is a 346, so perhaps the engines look a little more like they should. What I found not proper of a payware pack, even if the main objective was not to be realistic, is the IB tail logo. It really seems to be done by someone who hasn't even seen a single photo of an IB one.

The Air India A310 seems completely another kind of plane. The nose and tail a lot different to the supposed model, and out of proportion. For me it looks rather like an A320 a little scaled up.

variety is the spice of life; that's what made the "old times" so good
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