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User currently offlineNASOCEANA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3414 times:

Why is it frowned upon in the flight simulator community if someone fly's an long haul flight at an increased simulation rate (mainly 2X), instead of real time (1X)?


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User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3403 times:

Mainly because its called a "simulator" which is suppost to reflect reality as best as possible but if you increase the sim rate then you arent flying in reality as real pilots cant speed up a 16H flight so why should we. When i do long hauls i always speed it up a bit as i dont have the time to sit round for 12 hours watching the virtual world go by so personally i dont see anything wrong with it neither do many people but some people are keen on ultra-reality.

hope this helped!!

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User currently offlineLawrenceMck From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3403 times:

There's a lot of people out there who like to make each flight as realistic as possible, doing a flight in real time helps to achieve a realistic Flight Simulator experience. I personally have never done a long haul flight in real time, the longest flight I have done in real time is about 1.5hrs.

Lawrence



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User currently offlineNASOCEANA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3390 times:

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 1):
When i do long hauls i always speed it up a bit as i dont have the time to sit round for 12 hours watching the virtual world go by

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Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 1):
personally i dont see anything wrong with it neither do many people but some people are keen on ultra-reality.

I agree.



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User currently offlineGEEZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3379 times:

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 1):
When i do long hauls i always speed it up a bit as i dont have the time to sit round for 12 hours watching the virtual world go by

You dont have to sit there for 12 hours staring at it!

If on a long haul, once your at cruise level hit the NAV button and the autopilot flies the route programmed on your GPS.

I do a LOT of long hauls, and there is no way I can spend more than an hour in front of the screen watching it! - I get bored within minutes of reaching cruising altitude.


User currently offlineAC21365 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 402 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3354 times:

Yall better consider yerselfves fortounate, real pilots don't have time compression!

User currently offlineYooYoo From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 6057 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3335 times:

Quoting AC21365 (Reply 5):
Yall better consider yerselfves fortounate, real pilots don't have time compression!

Sure, but the real pilots get serviced !!  Wink



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User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3332 times:

Quoting GEEZ (Reply 4):
GEEZ

i know that, thats what i always do its just some people like to keep in contact with atc to make it even more realistic so they do sit there.. although i think theyre mostly the people who work at home and keep it in the back ground. i know how you feel about getting bored within minutes, i normally take off get to 6000 feet and let autopilot take over and i go watch T.v or on msn and just check fuel every 20 mins

rgds --james--



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User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5183 posts, RR: 33
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3307 times:

im one of those that frown upon time compression. I like my flights to be realistic, and to me time compression does not offer this. Also those that simply take off and then go to sleep / go out, coming home to land are just as bad.

Im fortunate enough to have a laptop as well as my FS machine, so I can surf the net on the lappy or watch a film.

If you dont have time or the patience to do a 12 hour flight, then why not just do a 3 hour flight instead? Simply taking off, skipping to the destination and landing isnt flying. Why not just do circuits of the airport, or use the map view to move your aircraft to the ILS of the destination, its the same effect.

Those that come on here and say they have just flown a long haul flight are lying , unless they have done it in real time.

Would you start running a marathon, hop into a car and drive to the finish, then jump out and run the last 100m then claim to have run the full race??



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User currently offlineGEG From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3297 times:

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 8):
Also those that simply take off and then go to sleep / go out, coming home to land are just as bad.



Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 8):
Im fortunate enough to have a laptop as well as my FS machine, so I can surf the net on the lappy or watch a film.

Unless those of us have jobs for 10 hours a day plus families then I don't see us being "bad", just trying to enjoy the little free time we have in our lives. Also most of us do not sit all day at a pc, not one that could run FS worth a damn anyway. And at the end of the day it is still only a game, even if you did sit there all day to make the 12+ hour flight real.

-Dan



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User currently offlineDoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3442 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3292 times:

How is going out to walk the dog after setting autopilot any more realilistic than using time compression. gimme a break.


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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13754 posts, RR: 61
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3267 times:
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Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 8):
I like my flights to be realistic

So when you crash do you throw yourself down the stairs just to complete the effect?  Wink



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User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3236 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 11):
So when you crash do you throw yourself down the stairs just to complete the effect? Wink

LOL i nearly fell off my chair when i red that.. and its true aswell theres only a certain amount of realism you'll get out of msfs

rgds --james--



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User currently offlineGEEZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3231 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 11):
So when you crash do you throw yourself down the stairs just to complete the effect?

 rotfl  rotfl 

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User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5183 posts, RR: 33
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3220 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 11):
So when you crash do you throw yourself down the stairs just to complete the effect? Wink

I never crash, but next time I do ill consider it  Silly



That'll teach you
User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3509 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3194 times:

I've done SEA-AMS, AMS-SEA and SEA-NRT in real time, and it definetly gets boring...I usually pass the time reading or doing homework, as there isn't much to do besides monitor the radio. Most of my flights are between 1.5 and 3 hours long, as I really don't have that much time for simming in the first place.


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User currently offlineJetflyer From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3173 times:

Yes you can't say you've got the hours if you speed up the simulation rate. I even did some 20 hour flights in the 777-200LR and just did those overnight, I had to get some sleep but never have I once used time acceleration. It's the least realistic thing you can do. Even on only 2x.

[Edited 2006-01-11 11:04:07]

User currently offlineAC21365 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 402 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3168 times:

It's just a game yall

Chill out Big grin


User currently offlineJetflyer From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3165 times:

Well some people take it a bit more seriously than that, I do, you could call me a "geek" like many people do so that means 20 hour long haul flights although those are quite rare. For example I log every flight I do and you'll see from my bio page that there is a link to the flight log with over 1000 hours in it since august. None of it had time acceleration.

User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3126 times:

I guess everyone has there own opinion on sim rate and my personal opinion is that i cant stand to wait 4+ hours to land be able to take some proper action so i speed up so that i can fit the flight into the spare time i have.

Quoting Jetflyer (Reply 18):
Jetflyer

I dont see why people would call you a geek for that, If you have the time to do that good on ya and well done on 1000 hours non accelarated i think thats quite an achievement for non-time acceleration.  bigthumbsup 

rgds --James--



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