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New Model Project: 1/144 A340-600 South African!  
User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7662 times:

For the Moderators and readers,
I have changed the project of the EK 1/144 A340-500 into a South African A340-600, therefore I started this new thread so it gives the correct info for you!
You can close the A340-500 EK topic.

This thread is for the model kit enthousiast to create out of 2 (or maybe 3) A333 kits an A340-600 as real as it gets!

read the old post here:
A340-500 1/144 Emirates (by SWISSER Jan 27 2006 in Aviation Hobby)

this is where we left of,


Thorben From Denmark, joined Sep 2005, 825 posts, RR: 1
Reply 48, posted Mon Feb 20 2006 12:58:35 UTC+1 and read 10 times:


Quoting SWISSER (Reply 47):


Karel, how are you going to put the SAA A342 tail on the A346 tail?? I thought about this project as well, but it was the tail that made me go for an A343 instead.



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SWISSER From Belgium, joined Feb 2005, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 49, posted Mon Feb 20 2006 17:15:00 UTC+1 and read 1 times:


Quoting Thorben (Reply 48):
Karel, how are you going to put the SAA A342 tail on the A346 tail?? I thought about this project as well, but it was the tail that made me go for an A343 instead.

I think I' am going to paint the flat colors myself on both A342 and A346 and drop the detail decals on them, will give much better result!
after that massive work, it will mean nothing and it's not that hard, I have already done such a thing for a friend on a helicopter in South Africa!

ok, some tail shots from our beloved site!
The A340-600:

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The A340-200:

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1 Post contains links and images SWISSER: I will start now with the extension of the fuselage! it's really looooong, even in model! I know South Africans call it "the Dachshund", a teckel dog!
2 Post contains links and images SWISSER: Ok, here is a shot of the quick 3M tape fit! If you find faults in the lenght, please share it! I' am quite sure this is the exact lenght, but still..
3 Post contains links and images SWISSER: Well everything worked out nicely! the fuselage is assembled, the modified wings are installed and the tail is set in place! It starts to look like an
4 Post contains images ILOVEA340: Man Karel you jsut can't make up your mind can you (My advice is go with the -600 but lets see a Swissair bird!)
5 Post contains links and images SWISSER: Yes, in fact I'am a real mindshifter! No prob! It's not an A340, but this SR bird is an icon for Swiss aviation! Still a lot of work on this MD-11, b
6 Aleksandar: It is really interesting switch. Did you finish the EK plane and started a new one or you just changed your mind and building the same one you already
7 AR1300: Hey!!Nice.I'm doing a SAS 767-300 right now.(1:144) Just a question:What do you use as a primer?? Mike
8 Thorben: Hi Karel, quiet impressive. In April, I will have time to do more on my models, then I will look after my LH A346.
9 Aleksandar: What color do you use for SAS? I'd love to build either SAS or Gulf Traveller. The Revell choice of 371 fro SAS doesn't seem good to me.
10 AR1300: Revell 371.Right on the head.It's on the manual.seem right to me. But I had to change the blue for another one.the one in the manual sheet was more ''
11 SWISSER: I use Humbrol Nr1, very good! I just took the started parts of the -500 and just extended the fuselage to a -600!
12 SWISSER: I will guide you on that! I' am planning to create some sort of manual with detailed drawings of what to do and what to get for fellow modellers. Any
13 Aleksandar: Hey Karel, any news from your workbench? It seems that I totally ruined my little Fokker today, so I'd love to hear something better.
14 Thorben: Why, what happened?
15 Aleksandar: Well, usual stuff - PAINTING. I'm using a very basic airbrush and it is always a struggle. Grey went fine and then it was time for some white coat. It
16 SWISSER: Hi guys, well I haven't done much modelling this weekend, I just bought Silent Hunter III and that game kept me up a few nights! Really fun! It's even
17 Post contains images Aleksandar: Hi Karel, thanks for your advice too much for me, I'm afraid I love Humbrol colors, but this time I used Revell gloss white 04
18 Thorben: Well, a Revell basic compressor gives you nice results as well. At least for larger surfaces.
19 SWISSER: It sucks! it really does! Off course, those are excellent as well and have the correct fitting and pressure! Indeed, it costs much, the badger 150 is
20 Post contains images Aleksandar: Somehow, I simply don't like Revell gloss colors but they are the easiest to be found here. There is only one shop that has some Humbrol. I like Reve
21 Aleksandar: Forgot to ask something. What colors you use for engines, guys? I experimented a bit with Humbrol Aluminium Flat and it doesn't look bad. I don't like
22 Post contains links and images SWISSER: 53 humbrol is very nice! My picture of the MD-11, the front part is plain 11 alu, and the aft part is a metal coat of humbrol you can buff up like a
23 Post contains images Aleksandar: The problem is that I don't have digital camera , but I'll figure it out how to make some photos. Or, if you visit Belgrade, you're welcome to see it
24 Post contains links and images SWISSER: I would love to visit your country ones! BTW. I heard something on the news today about a referendum?? Well, I looked it up in my modelling brain and
25 Post contains images Aleksandar: Yes, that's the one. The photos of other model I found on Google. Well, seems we'll have new borders. Montenegro seeks independence and the good chan
26 SWISSER: use orange and blue for that! black will make it more grey instead of deeper brown. Yes they where part of a PLATZ 737 set. N scale vehicles for a mo
27 Post contains links and images SWISSER: I' am very happy right now! I just was able to get 4 of these decals: So I finally can finish off my SN fleet collection! I was looking those for a fe
28 Post contains images Aleksandar: Glad to hear that. The problem is that I can't see the photo Something's wrong with the link. After I finish this Fokker (unless the little one finis
29 Post contains links and images SWISSER: Yep, just seen it, damn airlinercafé! Here they are from Danny's website, I guess the most famous Belgian modeller! (Daco products) Maybe check this
30 Post contains images Aleksandar: No, he is a world-famous modeller. I just love his decals in Revell kits. I recently bought A319 and it is amazing what he has done there! A lot of g
31 Aleksandar: Those Sabena decals are really nice. I also like their older livery with that light blue billboard title (the same as the ones on your 737 model).
32 Post contains links and images SWISSER: Me too, I was one of the few (together with you!) who liked it more then the new! I also liked the 80's blue a lot, View Large View MediumPhoto ©
33 Aleksandar: You mean OO-SLA? Yes, she spent some time in JAT fleet and my aunt flew to Singapore on it and had a very rough landing in KUL. Back then, JAT did le
34 Post contains links SWISSER: I have some custom ones from danny for the Belgian market! both DC-10 and 737's. I believe there is a very decent kit of that one, a very good, http:
35 Post contains links and images SWISSER: That 727 is really awesome! Yes, this is a model! I think it's comparable with DACO 737's.
User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 35
Reply 36, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 7150 times:

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 34):
I believe there is a very decent kit of that one, a very good,
http://www.authentic-airliners.de/kits.html
costly, but hey, that's quality!

It certainly is quality. I completely forgot that he also made 727-100 and had ancient Airfix kit in mind. He really does amazing things and seems like a really modest guy. In the list that I've suggested there were several new models that everybody liked. Danny's 737s, Revell An-124 (huge kit and amazingly detailed). Minicraft DC-8 and Authentic Models 727. Now, if only that 727 is a bit cheaper but one can't have both the quality and affordable price. I do hope he'll use those molds to make some injection-molded kits in the future.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 34):
Also this is an excellent manufacterer

Yes, I've seen it several times and those decals are great. Lots of details like Danny's decals and very interesting liveries as well (Kingfisher looks great). The same guy also produces Dash 8s and is working on Saab 2000.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 34):
BTW,
You're on my RR list Alex, a fellow modeller is rare here at A.net + you're a great guy!

Well, thanks  blush  Check out your profile  wink 

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 34):
Thorben too BTW

Where's Thorben these days?


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User currently offlineThorben From Germany, joined Sep 2005, 3282 posts, RR: 4
Reply 37, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7128 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 36):
Where's Thorben these days?

I'm working on a paper for the university, it has do be done no later than April 3rd. It's really annoying, a lot of things don't work out the way I want them to, it's just a lot of stress. I don't have time to work on my models, I look up this thread almost daily, but I don't have much time.

Sorry to annoy you with this guys. The paper is the last thing I'll have to do for the university - if I pass. If I fail I'll get a second and last chance. I don't think I will fail, because I haven't failed anything for a long time, but as I said, some things just don't work out the way they should. I'm really having a hard time.  frown 

User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 38, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7112 times:

Good luck with that Thorben!
I was guessing you where getting kinda busy with it.
It's top priority, so don't spend to much time here then  Wink

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 36):
He really does amazing things

It's very nice indeed!
I don't have any 727 plans, otherwise I ordered one from him right away.
I think his high price is due to the very detailed molds of the model, as you know a model mold costs many bucks!
I was told from Danny his 737 molds go in a couple of thousand €'s!

Since 727 is not that popular anymore to sell it widely, he had to raise the price of the kit.
But still, if I build a 727 once, he is the guy I would get my model from!
I'd like to spend money for something very decent!

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 36):
Well, thanks Check out your profile

seen it! I' am honored!

User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 35
Reply 39, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7108 times:

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 38):
I think his high price is due to the very detailed molds of the model

I believe it is because it is resin kit and because of all the details. It seems that Welsh Models will also build only resin kits in the future.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 38):
Since 727 is not that popular anymore to sell it widely

Hey, don't insult the great lady of the skies  box   wink  Minicraft also released injection-molded 727-200 recently (about a year ago), but it seems like a kit with some problems, although it is an improvement over Airfix kit. Good thing about 727s is that there are so many liveries for it. As for its popularity, I guess modellers will buy it (just like they are buying that DC-8 kits these days), but manufacturers still need to sell more than this small community will buy and I guess every kid in the supermarket would prefer A320 that took him to summer vacation than some old 727.

Personally, I'd love to build at least couple of dozens of 727s  biggrin  (JAT, Iberia, Pan Am, Iraqi Airways that used to look awesome, THY o/c, etc.)

Quoting Thorben (Reply 37):
I'm working on a paper for the university, it has do be done no later than April 3rd

OK, then, you're excused Big grin Now, if you only have a minute or two, what color did you use for the wings on Lufthansa A321?


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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 40, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7105 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 39):
Hey, don't insult the great lady of the skies

Off course not! It still is one of the most beautiful aircrafts around!
I like them very much! But the sad thing is that off course in the real world, not many traditional airlines are still using it...so the average Joe forgets them.
And still, this is a niche model kit.
But nevertheless, it's an honor having it!

I have flown 1 time on a 727-200, a UA new colorsheme from DCA to MIA in 1995, and it was great, and BTW, I came back to IAD on a 747SP,Unbelievable!

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 39):
Personally, I'd love to build at least couple of dozens of 727s (JAT, Iberia, Pan Am, Iraqi Airways that used to look awesome, THY o/c, etc.)

great livery's!
I remember IB 727's in Tenerife, awesome sight!
Man I' am getting old, that was already more then 10 years ago!

Anyway, you convinced me!
I' am getting interested in a 727 FEDEX freighter with hush kit!
If I can find a decent decal somewhere, I might order a model from Kurt!

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 39):
I guess every kid in the supermarket would prefer A320 that took him to summer vacation than some old 727.

Yep, your right, that's the popularity factor.

User currently offlineThorben From Germany, joined Sep 2005, 3282 posts, RR: 4
Reply 41, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7103 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 39):
OK, then, you're excused Now, if you only have a minute or two, what color did you use for the wings on Lufthansa A321?

That was five years ago, I remember I did it the way the instructions said (I don't have them anymore). I think the main wings are light grey (Revell 371) on the upper side and medium grey (Revell 374) on the lower side, same as the bottom of the fuselage and the engines. I think in reality the upper side is rather white.

The tail wings are simply all light grey (Revell 371). But I think in reality their upper side might be more white than grey as well.

Look for yourself and tell me what you think:

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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 42, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 7089 times:

LH A32S is white on the upper part of both wings and tailplanes and LH-grey on the underside of the wings.
The tailplanes are also white on the underside.

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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 35
Reply 43, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7059 times:

Quoting Thorben (Reply 41):



Quoting SWISSER (Reply 42):

Thank you for your replies, guys  bigthumbsup 

I apologize for not writing sooner, but yesterday was a busy day when I bought new desktop for PC, carried it by myself to my place (and it is about 35 kg of metal and wood) and tried to figure out where every part should go. Now, I'm sitting in complete mess and every muscle and bone hurts me like hell.

I looked at many photos of the upper side and it led me to no conclusion at all. It is definitely not all white although every pic I've found so far looks different (on some it looks white on others not). If it was a model of 737, 747-400, even A310-300, I would go for white without thinking twice, but in this case....As for Revell 371, it might be close enough, but it might be a bit too dark. Decisions, decisions  hissyfit  Good thing is that this kit can wait a bit.

So, Karel, any news of your SAA bird?


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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 44, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7048 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 43):
It is definitely not all white

I can ask a painting label of LH at Sabena technics across my company,
I' am very sure it's white in standard.
It is also best to fix you to a particular aircraft(D-AIRT for instance!) and follow that ones features,
A.net is perfect for it!

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 43):
any news of your SAA bird?

Not from the SAA,

But I painted some S-tails for preperation of SN decals (ARJ85/A319/A320/A321/A332), I still need to build an A333, A342(instead of the planned SA A342, it will be a SN),A343(instead of the Air Mauritius a SN), and putty them, so I will do all that tuesday, the A340-600 will be done the same with these models!
So expect a decent A346 update tuesday!

I' am currently too tired from work to start work like glueing/filling etc.
I think I will make faults and that is not something I want, certainly not on my prototype A346!
Anyway, an A333 GE is being build too tuesday, so all the engines can be assembled then with slight modifications for the A346's RR's.

Lately I feel more like Sabena technics in scale 1/144;

this is what's currently on the desk,
Bae
AR85 SN/final sheme
pending;
AR10 SN/75 years SN
AR10 SN/final sheme
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Airbus Industrie
A319 SN
A320 SN
A321 SN
A332 SN/final sheme
A346 SA
pending;
A333 SN/final sheme
A342 SN " "
A343 SN " "
A380 in company colors for a colleugue
A380 in company colors for a colleugue
A380 in company colors for me!
maintenance;
A330 SN Brussels from a friend/recieveing new decals/paint tailplanes and engines.
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Boeing company
B772 CO Peter Max
B772 UA/new sheme
B744 SQ
B734 SLR 80's sheme
B732 SN
B764 CO
pending;
some 737 classics!
ordered;
B727 FEDEX Kurt's models/ready in may 2006.
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McDonell Douglas
MD-11 SR/final sheme
MD-80 CO for A.net member:FutureUApilot
pending;
DC-10-30 SN/80's sheme

User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 35
Reply 45, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7045 times:

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 44):
this is what's currently on the desk

 eyepopping  And I was complaining about F-100 (the only one at my desk with more soon to join in)

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 44):
I' am very sure it's white in standard.

You know, the photos I've seen only added some more confusion (as if I'm not confused enough already). Another contributor to my confussion is the paint suggestion from Revell. They say that the upper side of the wings is the mixture of 371 (95%) and 362 - greyish green (5%). Now, pics are telling me that wings are either white (just like you are saying) or close to white (371 + bit more white to it, or white with few drops of 371), but I don't see a trace of something greyish green. Anyway, I made up my mind and the A321 would definitely be D-AIRN "Keiserslautern" and not D-AIRY with mouse sticker.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 44):
I can ask a painting label of LH at Sabena technics across my company

Well, that would be the best reference possible  bigthumbsup 

And finally, my plans for the future:
F-100 (to finish it Big grin)
DC-9-32 (JAT, need to find some details before I seriously devote myself to that one)
A321 (Lufthansa)
B-767-300ER (great plane, nice kit, fantastic decals and I still haven't decided would it be SAS or Gulf Traveller)
A310-300 (Air Jamaica)
B-737-200 (BA Landor)


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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 46, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7009 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 45):
And finally, my plans for the future:

Nice models too!
I have a plan of a decent 763ER in full metal AA color too!

User currently offlineThorben From Germany, joined Sep 2005, 3282 posts, RR: 4
Reply 47, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7003 times:

My current projects (delayed until April) are:

A343 Kuwait Airways
A343 South African
A343 Air Mauritius
A343 Gulf Air 50 years
A343 Turkish Airlines
A333 Thai old livery

But there are many more to come, some of them even non-Airbus.

User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 48, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6993 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 45):
Well, that would be the best reference possible

Oh,no wait, we have a small LH technics too at the other side of BRU!
it was once Avipartner(my compnay) technics, so that will even be easier!

User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 49, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6985 times:

Maybe a little shot on the current state of the SN fleet!
When I see the picture it looks like the good old times!
You can see the ARJ85, A320, A321, A319 and the nose of the A332!
Still some work to do! But the hardest parts are over!
The effect of the flash on the blue is really cool! Just like the real guys did!
it is the same paint though on all models!
http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/1840/snvloot5bm.jpg

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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 35
Reply 50, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6975 times:

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 48):
Oh,no wait, we have a small LH technics too at the other side of BRU!

Any help and idea would be welcome, but I do hope it won't take any of your free time. I will probably finish F-100 these days and start that A321, but it will take some time before I reach the wings.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 49):

Simply beautiful  bigthumbsup  Great job. And, just out of curiosity, does this box of 737-300 mean that you will build Sabena Boeings next?

Now, it seems that those windows are clear. Are you going to keep them clear or you'll use decals? It seems that most of the airline modellers prefer decals and they look great (especially those textured), but I like to keep windows clear as much as possible. For Fokker 100, I'll use Clear Fix and I'm already glad with that part of the model. One day, when I go for DC-9, decals will be applied and the same goes for A310 (somehow I don't like that kit, but it is still the only and decent kit of the plane, so not many complaints, just some  biggrin  )

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 46):
I have a plan of a decent 763ER in full metal AA color too!

I have decals for AA's 737-300 and all I know is that I won't build this plane in that livery. Minicraft decals are all but good (black windows on blue cheatline doesn't look like a good idea) and 737-300s were so rare in their fleet.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 47):
A343 Kuwait Airways
A343 South African
A343 Air Mauritius
A343 Gulf Air 50 years
A343 Turkish Airlines
A333 Thai old livery

Great choice, Thorben.

Finally, Karel, since you've built SN Airbus fleet, do you plan to build their MD-11?


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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 51, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6935 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 50):
but I do hope it won't take any of your free time

Oh no, it's just a simple internal airport call!
The guys can check the paint manual right away!

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 50):
Are you going to keep them clear or you'll use decals?

I will use clear decals! Big grin
very nice and an exact fit on the kit!

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 50):
I have decals for AA's 737-300 and all I know is that I won't build this plane in that livery. Minicraft decals are all but good (black windows on blue cheatline doesn't look like a good idea) and 737-300s were so rare in their fleet.

indeed, its' an oddball and the decals are not ok.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 50):
Simply beautiful Great job. And, just out of curiosity, does this box of 737-300 mean that you will build Sabena Boeings next?

Possibly! I have plenty of SN 737 decals from '70 '80 '90 '2000, and I always liked the white sheme on the 737's a lot!

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 50):
Finally, Karel, since you've built SN Airbus fleet, do you plan to build their MD-11?

My SN MD-11 was gifted a long time ago to the SN modellers club!  Wink
Even when they still flew around I had made it!

User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 35
Reply 52, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6934 times:

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 51):
I have plenty of SN 737 decals from '70 '80 '90 '2000

In case you plan 737-200, don't forget that Airfix pulled that kit out of this year catalogue. Of course, I have no doubts that they will produce that kit some time in the future like they always do. If you build some 737-3/4/5oos, the choice of kit is also very obvious biggrin 

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 51):
decals are not ok

Well, the kit as a whole was a bit of a disappointment from the moment I opened the box. Overall, everything is OK and some parts are very nice (clear cockpit, engines), but there are no details at all. Also, I like the quality of moulds. I will build it some day, but right now I'm not to eager to start building it.


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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 53, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 6932 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 52):
In case you plan 737-200

Ha, funny!
Look at reply 24 on this thread! Big grin
BTW, Kurt is also working on a 737-200 he revealed to me!

I still need to get 2 DC-10's though!
I have seen 2 in a store in Leuven(my home city) and I plan to buy them before I go to BAH.(20th march)
I will bring not much of model stuff to BAH, but once I' am through training etc. I plan to do operation: "deploy model stuff to the middle east!"

BTW,
I have just done some work on the A332,
landing gear etc.(BTW, if you do a A332, make sure you cut the two attachment points of the nose gear to make it shorter, because the A332 in reality has a shorter nosegear then A333/A343 and it is tilted up a bit!)
see pic's;
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/6258/nose6px.jpg
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/2221/a332sn1gy.jpg
(btw, look at the color of the wings, just like the LH it gives the impression they are greyish, but here too they are white as can be!)

Now the aircraft stands on it's own feet, all details, tailplanes, engines etc. will be placed, and since many paints like silver etc. dry very quickly, it will be ready by tommorow morning!
And the decals will probably arrive this week!
So I will work full ahead on this, and give a slideshow this weekend on A.net!

[Edited 2006-03-07 21:51:15]

User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 35
Reply 54, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6910 times:

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 53):
Look at reply 24 on this thread!

I've seen it and it does look great. Usually, modellers build dozens of the same planes in different liveries, so I just thought you might want more for 1970s SN livery.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 53):
Kurt is also working on a 737-200 he revealed to me!

If it is going to be an improvement over 727, I expect those 737s to fly and carry passengers biggrin . Now, if only those kits were cheaper.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 53):
I have seen 2 in a store in Leuven

Airfix or Revell? About a year ago (maybe even more), Revell produced some DC-10s and 747-200s (old molds, of course) for Dutch market with KLM decals. They were sold by some big supermarket chain (forgot the name, all I know is that the company was Dutch), so you might still be able to get some of these. The price was also very low.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 53):
I will bring not much of model stuff to BAH

Bring some basic modelling tools. Just in case you see a kit in some store that would tempt you.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 53):
I have just done some work on the A332,

Looks really nice. A332 is really a nice plane.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 53):
look at the color of the wings, just like the LH it gives the impression they are greyish, but here too they are white as can be

If the "final verdict" is white, I would be more than happy. It is way easier than mixing 371 with "grayish-green".

Oh, BTW, that Swiss A320 looks really nice. I plan to buy Revell A320 and build it as LX plane.


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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 55, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6900 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 54):
I've seen it and it does look great. Usually, modellers build dozens of the same planes in different liveries, so I just thought you might want more for 1970s SN livery.

I can attempt one by Kurt models 732!

I have this one coming along though! not 70's but 80's, will be OO-SBJ
Note that this is a DACO models 737-400, this is so far the best kit I have ever seen! note the tail lights on the wingtips, and the thickness of the wing itself, simply awesome!
The funny thing is that this model is completely Belgian! Belgian designed and crafted kit, Belgian made decals, Belgian made real SN paint, model assembled by a Belgian in a Belgian airline livery! Big grin
Maybe placing a bottle of Stella Artois next to it will complete the fact it was made in Leuven!
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/9111/hpim20419hp.jpg
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/7258/hpim2031a7vq.jpg

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 54):
If it is going to be an improvement over 727, I expect those 737s to fly and carry passengers . Now, if only those kits were cheaper.

Right, they are not that cheap, but I like the concept though!
It feels like you order a real plane! Big grin

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 54):
Airfix or Revell?

Airfix.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 54):
Revell produced some DC-10s and 747-200s (old molds, of course) for Dutch market with KLM decals.

Indeed, I knew they existed somewhere and we could get them too in Belgium, but I never saw it. Are they better then the Airfix kit?

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 54):
Bring some basic modelling tools. Just in case you see a kit in some store that would tempt you.

My "basic" tools are still way to much!
I'l just let them come one day with FEDEX or something then.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 54):
Looks really nice. A332 is really a nice plane.

Indeed! I like it a lot!
I first saw it landing here in BRU in the beginning of 1999 and I was sold right away!

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 54):
If the "final verdict" is white, I would be more than happy. It is way easier than mixing 371 with "grayish-green".

I will call tommorow! I' am eager to find that out as well!
Maybe they can even give RAL's or something when it's grey, but I expect it to be white!

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 54):
Oh, BTW, that Swiss A320 looks really nice. I plan to buy Revell A320 and build it as LX plane.

It's a great kit!
Decals are awesome too!

User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 35
Reply 56, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6885 times:

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 55):
this is so far the best kit I have ever seen

It definitely is. Great kit and you did a fine job with it. Actually, it is the first time I see DACO kit almost finished and it looks really nice.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 55):
The funny thing is that this model is completely Belgian

It is interesting. Now, there is a livery for that particular plane that would also look great and it is Belgian too - CITYBIRD

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 55):
Are they better then the Airfix kit?

According to the list I've mentioned you before (I won't mention the name not to cause any problems here), both Airfix and Revell have their problems, but it seems that Revell is a bit better. The only really big problem with that kit are cabin windows (I think they are too high), but it can be fixed in no time if modeller uses decals for windows. I think few more minor flaws were mentioned, but I can't remember now. The problem with windows is the biggest one.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 55):
I first saw it landing here in BRU in the beginning of 1999

Unfortunately, I haven't seen any of A332s live (Belgrade is quite boring when spotting is concerned), but I was amazed when I watched it on live coverages on TV in 1998 and 1999. First time, it was from Farnborough in 1998 on BBC World (they covered the show live then) and the second time when I watched it on Dubai Air Show in 1999 (on Dubai TV via satellite). The programme was all in Arabic (again it was live coverage), but when airliners are shown, language and understanding of it doesn't matter much. It was really a nice demo flight of A332 in Emirates colors.


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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 57, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6847 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 56):
It is interesting. Now, there is a livery for that particular plane that would also look great and it is Belgian too - CITYBIRD
It's amazing how many appreciate this livery!

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Photo © Daniel Alaerts - AirTeamImages

I made the 767 and MD-11, I believe in '99!
Maybe the PA-027 paint from Danny is still available somewhere should you attempt to make one! That green was awesome, even in model!

I have seen the 737's not much in reality...By the time they properly started 737 OPS, they went down...
H2 went down because Thomas Cook didn't give them a contract and started with there own fleet, but many ex H2 staff now work at TCW (Thomas Cook Belgium)!

Oh, BTW,
I called LH Technics today and it's official now,
according to the manual, every LH tailplane of the A32S should be white according to the company manual.
In case an aircraft comes from a different lessor, it is allowed to have a variation of color on the tailplane, but must be repainted the following big Check or when opportunity occurs.

[Edited 2006-03-09 03:42:31]

User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 35
Reply 58, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6840 times:

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 57):
Oh, BTW,
I called LH Technics today and it's official now

Thank you very much!  bigthumbsup 

Now a treat for your eyes. Take a look at this:
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.co...al4538_An-124_McDonald/gal4538.htm


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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 59, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 6809 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 58):
Now a treat for your eyes

Very nice!
I haven't bought one of those, but I will get it someday!

Oh, Yes,
I recieved my SN decals today from Heino Gabels (airliner-world.de) so this weekend it will be rollout of the A330-200 SN OO-SFS!
I will no longer upload pic's anymore of this subject, so the show will be much fancier this weekend!

The detail work can start, so that will take a lot of hours,
expect every brake line etc...

So stay tuned guys! Big grin

And BTW, I bought the 2 Airfix DC-10's today in the toystore, so the only 2 DC-10's I ever planned to build are secured forever now!
Not cheap though, €22 each!

User currently offlineThorben From Germany, joined Sep 2005, 3282 posts, RR: 4
Reply 60, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6439 times:

Karel, any news on the SA A346? Or are you too busy at the moment?

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