CX881 From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2003, 236 posts, RR: 1 Posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4866 times:
Hey guys -
Awhile back i puchased the PMDG 737-800/900. I have read through the manual and understand it. I was wondering though, how does the FMC work with ATC. If u use the FMC to fly the plane, can u use the FS Default ATC considering the ATC doesnt know anything about sids and stars and all of that? If so how?
Kovi17 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 366 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4855 times:
You know what i have no idea when it comes to vnav i just usualy climb and decend the plane to what the atc tells me or else they will start bitching at you and then you have to go to whatever altitude they tell you. I would definatly hit up the pmdg forums here http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=136 i think maybe the people fly vfr and not ifr for that but i could be wrong, hope this helps.
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9215 posts, RR: 42 Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4846 times:
Definitely take Kovi17's advice and visit the forums but in theory you can use SIDs as long as you programme all the points into your FS flightplan as well. The problem is that some of the SID points aren't available by default in the FS flight planner. It would help if you had a 3rd party planner which can export a plan to FS, such as FS Navigator but that's payware (as far as I remember). Another advantage of FS Navigator is that it'll give you the airways so you don't have to enter every single waypoint into the FMC.
STARs are another matter as ATC will start to vector you for approach from quite far out, regardless of your flightplan.
Nighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 4988 posts, RR: 38 Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4844 times:
Quoting David L (Reply 2): STARs are another matter as ATC will start to vector you for approach from quite far out, regardless of your flightplan.
as soon as ATC starts to vector you on the appoach, instead of acknowledging, select "choose another approach" and select the approach that meets your STAR.
For each runway there will be a couple of interception VORs. ATC then leaves you free to find your way to that vor, without nagging that your off course.
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9215 posts, RR: 42 Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4795 times:
Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 3): as soon as ATC starts to vector you on the appoach, instead of acknowledging, select "choose another approach" and select the approach that meets your STAR.
Fair enough. I was really just dealing with getting ATC and your flightplan in sync. From discussions on Tech-Ops it seems that STARs are more likely than SIDs to be bypassed by ATC. I guess it's obvious I never bother with STARs.