AirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1616 posts, RR: 25 Posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2721 times:
here are two screenshots from my latest Moscow-Copenhagen trip, and see what happened right after take-off. LOL
It kept saying TRAFFIC TRAFFIC, DESCEND DESCEND.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 17410 posts, RR: 59 Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2704 times:
FS ATC does not ensure separation.....hopefully this will be fixed with FSX.
-Mir
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Btriple7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1136 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2649 times:
Quoting Mir (Reply 1): FS ATC does not ensure separation
That can be a pain in the neck when you are on final behind a Cessna and don't even know it. It has ended so many of my flights without even landing.
Spark From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 431 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2637 times:
I use AI seperation, which isn't perfect, but improves my chances of not being bumped on my final. I'm also not adverse to cheating, and deleting aircraft that I know is going to cause me problems. It would be a nice improvement to FS ATC.
VinnieWinnie From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 618 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2612 times:
Quoting Spark (Reply 4): use AI seperation, which isn't perfect, but improves my chances of not being bumped on my final. I'm also not adverse to cheating, and deleting aircraft that I know is going to cause me problems. It would be a nice improvement to FS ATC.
Wouldn't call that cheating since I do exactly the same! ! More seriously you are cheating because of the weaknesses of flightsim's ATC so no harm done!
Also a thing that really p***** me off is the fact that ATC orders you to descend way too early! Meaning that usually you end up flying at 3000 feet for about 10 minutes! Highly unrealistic! I immensely share the pain of people living below the runway lol
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8950 posts, RR: 45 Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2611 times:
Quoting Spark (Reply 4): Also a thing that really p***** me off is the fact that ATC orders you to descend way too early! Meaning that usually you end up flying at 3000 feet for about 10 minutes! Highly unrealistic!
To make matters worse, they don't do that till they've started your initial descent too late and start the "please expedite your descent" malarky!
Edelag From Mexico, joined Dec 2005, 327 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2601 times:
I simply don't enjoy FS ATC, I almost crashed my British Airways A319 one time that I was on approach on Belfast.
One time I was on a flight from MEX-DFW, and I don't know what happened and I didn't do anything, they routed me to MIA and I never got to my intended destination! A real bugger because I was flying under FS passengers and I lost about 500 points for diverting and for arriving late.
Gunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3338 posts, RR: 13 Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2578 times:
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 54 Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2468 times:
Quoting Edelag (Reply 7): I simply don't enjoy FS ATC, I almost crashed my British Airways A319 one time that I was on approach on Belfast
It did happen to me as well, but when I was flying BFI-SFO on an ER 727, and that was on finals. I crashed with what I believe was a US or NW 757, simply because ATC didn't keep separation between us.
FrancoBlanco From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2402 times:
1. Ignore FS ATC if it annoys you. They won´t kick your IFR flightplan unless you don´t answer them.
2. Disable crashes. All the invisible potholes, AI aircraft being pushed without any clearance, guidance and reason, and mid-air collisions make FS flying a real pain in the APU.
3. For more realism, buy Radar Contact 4. It isn´t perfect, but it is a LOT better than MS ATC.
Cactushp From United States of America, joined May 2004, 348 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2385 times:
Thats right, their is no comparison between fs ATC and the very realistic VATSIM.
Flying online is good, but on the flipside, you dont get the full amount of traffic around you which to me, takes away a huge element of the fun and realism.
Quoting Btriple7 (Reply 3): It has ended so many of my flights without even landing.
Csturdiv From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1228 posts, RR: 4 Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2371 times:
Quoting GEEZ (Reply 14): Flying online is good, but on the flipside, you dont get the full amount of traffic around you which to me, takes away a huge element of the fun and realism.
I agree. I used to fly online when I was involved in a VA and some areas were fun to fly in (like around New York) but when I flew my northern routes out of ORD to places like MSP and Green Bay, it was a ghost town up there and was really boring when flying.
Newark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 40 Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2339 times:
Quoting GEEZ (Reply 14): Couldn't you just execute a go-around?
Not if you're in an ATR and an AI MD80 comes from behind you and literally passes THROUGH your plane as you're on short final.
N908AW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 809 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2279 times:
Quoting Cactushp (Reply 12): Thats right, their is no comparison between fs ATC and the very realistic VATSIM.
Yes! Come visit me on Minneapolis Center sometime
'Cause you're on ATA again, and on ATA, you're on vacation!
A3204eva From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1060 posts, RR: 6 Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2258 times:
Quoting GEEZ (Reply 14): Flying online is good, but on the flipside, you dont get the full amount of traffic around you which to me, takes away a huge element of the fun and realism.
Oh I dunno
Makes controlling MAN W CTR a challenge
"They have lady pilots......... they're not that good, but they have 'em"
A3204eva From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1060 posts, RR: 6 Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2175 times:
www.vatsim.net and register as a new pilot (or new vATCO if you wish [I do both so best of both worlds ]).
After you've registered go to the downloads section and get Squawkbox 3 and also Servinfo which will show you all the online ATC and pilots that are currently connected.
Before connecting make sure you read the pilot resources as we follow real world procedures and are nothing like the default FS ATC.
NEVER CONNECT ON AN ACTIVE RWY AND MAKE SURE YOU FILE CORRECT FLIGHTPLANS WITH SIDS/STARS/WAYPOINTS/AIRWAYS WHERE APPLICABLE
"They have lady pilots......... they're not that good, but they have 'em"
26 A3204eva: Depends if there's ATC on.. if so, expect a SUP to kick you very shortly after Another coulple of things to note... Always have charts - they're freel
27 ATAIndy: And they just stopped calling me that on Xbox live! -Feister
28 AirPacific747: hehehehe!! Anyway I downloaded squawkbox 3 and signed up for vatsim. I started fs, then started squawkbox, tuned the frequency in the aircraft for th
29 A3204eva: Have you setup/checked your mic in the Sb3 settings? There should be an option to test it and change the inputs
30 Longhornmaniac: I assume that you made sure you were holding down the correct key, while talking, as well?? The only reason I say this is I just tried to start talki
31 AirPacific747: yes ah that might be the answer I will try pressing down scroll lock. Thankyou very very much!!
32 San747: That happened to me! I was flying ALB-BWI with a WN 737-700, and the ATC routed way past BWI, I was on a track for SJU!!!
33 Csturdiv: Is there a good guide for setting up all the needed software to fly online. It has been so long since I have flown online that I have forgotten how to
34 Cactushp: The VATSIM PRC is a great resource for everything vatsim, including training, charts, and flying with atc. Weekly event such as TGIF and ARTCC sponsor
35 Longhornmaniac: Not a problem! Us noobies gotta stick together. I hope that fixed it!! Let me know! Cheers, Cameron
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