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Airline 6.2 Release Date?  
User currently offlineDellatorre From Brazil, joined May 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 7 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 11741 times:

Hello to you all!!! I recently bought this game and have been waiting anxiously for the CD to arrive!!! The lady in salesdepartment e-mailed me and said that the game would be available a week ago, but so far nothing has been updated on their website. Does anyone know when will they finally set a release date????


Best Regards,

Felipe.

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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 11734 times:

Well, there have been some problems and they won't release the game until its ready (obviously). The CDs won't be made until after these errors, and then sent a few days after. From past experience it took 10 days for the CD to reach Auckland from Melbourne, I'd expect something like 3 weeks for it to get Brazil. Meanwhile, a good alternative would be to watch the soccer world cup  Smile


It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineKubus From Poland, joined Dec 2005, 183 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11658 times:

Expect the CD anytime between now and infinity.
They are working on 6.2 however found bugs with scheduling so they are working on fixing it.
It took about a week for my CD to ship to PIT


User currently offlineDeltaalpha From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11519 times:

Airline has now showed just how unorganised and unprofessional they could possibly be. How could they act as they have in the past few days. Delay after delay and now this-unascusable delay. Not to mention a horrendous excuse. Not enough bandwidth as they stated is the single worst excuse I have heard from them yet. After they promoted a release date then with a count down. How could they not have expected this?

Shame on EFZED. I feel really ripped off.

DA



Common sense is not all that common
User currently offlineFrugalqxnwa From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 565 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11512 times:

With all the drooling that has been going on, I am not surprised they have found their current bandwidth inadequate for the loads they will need to accommodate when they release 6.2. Their latest trick, however, has been to shut down their forum temporarily. This probably makes it a lot easier on them while upgrading their servers and the stress of dealing with some of the forum members who are a little too vocal on their criticisms. While I myself am frustrated about their not making release dates (thankfully they will no longer publish release dates), I have had excellent support and customer service from Efzed when I have needed it and currently have no reason to discontinue being a customer.

User currently offlineDw9115 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 449 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 11496 times:

The web page said there are people offering mirror sites so that people can still download it does anyone now of any of these sites?

User currently offlineFlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1391 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 11491 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
FORUM MODERATOR

They have now pulled to forums.

I must say, im not too impressed with Efzed here what so ever, especially considering they should have well known there would be high demand for the game, and have had more than enough time to sort this out.

Efzed are yet again pushing the boundries.

Then again, I suppose this is more realistic, Airlines often have 'delays'  Wink

Hoping to see 6.2 before New Year.

Kev.



The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11479 times:

Quoting FlyKev (Reply 6):
Hoping to see 6.2 before New Year.

Haha me too, and I'm sure it will. The game is probably ready.. Just need them to buy some extra servers or something..

Quoting Frugalqxnwa (Reply 4):
currently have no reason to discontinue being a customer.

Have to agree. But it is a unique product. Compare it to FS2006 then.. I reckon most of these airline games have problems. I still need a better computer for Airline to run on!



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineDeltaalpha From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11469 times:

Yes it is a unique product. I go back to version 4. I just think that the last few months have been a mess. I know there is no comparable product out there but that does not excuse poor performance on their part. Then to shut down the form to keep people quiet. Their moderators could not control the discontent so off the air they go.

DA



Common sense is not all that common
User currently offlineFrugalqxnwa From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 565 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 11464 times:

Hopefully Efzed can clean up their act here, because if they don't it won't be too long before they do have compitition who does have their act together.

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 11462 times:

Their behaviour is unacceptable.

Their weird dates were bad.

Then yesterday we had the big green counter that got us all excited.

And now they have closed down the forum. Furthermore, apparently threads which are too critical are not answered but are instead shot down and closed by an arrogant middle aged man in Australia.

It seems like a disorganised and unprofessional company with a lot to learn. They should cut their losses, dump the game on a mirror and work in another industry.



Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineSCEagle From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11365 times:

Wonder when we'll hear anything... now that they seem to have severed the lines of communication...

User currently offlineFrugalqxnwa From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 565 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 11310 times:

Members login section says the server issue is resolved and downloads will begin tomorrow (June 19). As I write this, however, it is already 11:30pm MDT, (3:30pm in Melbourne) and I have just checked the site. Time will tell if this is the real thing or if our date stood us up again.

BTW, the forum is still offline.

Edited to correct time & time zone.

[Edited 2006-06-19 07:40:13]

User currently offlineDeltaalpha From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11266 times:

Looks like we have been stood up again. It must be near Tuesday over there in Austrailia. Oh i know they must have meant June 17th some other year.
DA



Common sense is not all that common
User currently offlineGSM763 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 11254 times:

It's now Tuesday over there. Now I can't play till Sunday as I'm in Paris all week.

User currently offlineDeltadude8 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 569 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 11246 times:

I have been quiet till now...I have not posted on the forum anywhere but at this point I too believe it has become a joke....
If this game is released and with tons of bugs I will never again purchase a product from them....for them to take 3-6 extra months and then release a highly problematic game would be rediculous.

All i'm saying is when it comes out it better be good.


User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5186 posts, RR: 33
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11236 times:

Quoting Deltadude8 (Reply 15):
I have been quiet till now...I have not posted on the forum anywhere but at this point I too believe it has become a joke....
If this game is released and with tons of bugs I will never again purchase a product from them....for them to take 3-6 extra months and then release a highly problematic game would be rediculous.

All i'm saying is when it comes out it better be good.

They did the same with 6.1, what makes you think 6.2 will be any different?

So far the release schedule has been exactly the same as 6.1. Delay after delay after delay, followed by technical issues with the server.

Expect 6.2 to be released on Monday. Everyone will then find the installer doesnt work. A patch will be released to fix that by the end of next week, only for everyone to experience runtime errors as soon as they launch the game.

You may as well just wait until the end of August by which time patch 15 will be out, and the game will be semi playable, as long as you autsave and resume frequently....



That'll teach you
User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3474 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 11175 times:

Just imagine what a little competition would do to the market. Yea sure there are some similar programs out there but they are rather elementary compared to Airline, even dispite my many objections with some aspects of the game. In a competitive market Ezfed would not last with all these delays and poor communication with consumers.

They state yet another release date of Monday the 19th, well down in AU its already midday on the 20th and still nothing


User currently offlineFlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1391 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 11174 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
FORUM MODERATOR

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 17):
They state yet another release date of Monday the 19th, well down in AU its already midday on the 20th and still nothing

Shoddy Shoddy service.

How many delayed release dates is that now, and when was it first scheduled for us?

Kev.



The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only
User currently offlineWarreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 11133 times:

Creating a similar simulation program to AIRLINE would not be difficult. However, the difficult part comes in adding the "bells and whistles"... being able to custom configure aircraft, add amenities, etc..

Also, the critical part is the vast amount of data that AIRLINE has. Airport data, demand data, and vital performance data for the various aircraft.

So, once you overcome these obstacles, you have a competitor to AIRLINE.

Oh wait. We don't have that data, and the "bells and whistles" make things excessively complex. No wonder Efzed is taking so long.  Smile

Keep up the good wort Efzed! I can wait patiently.


User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4617 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 11131 times:

If you want to gripe about the forums being shut down, blame me. Frank sent our an email about everything how we were obviously heading for a melt down if everyone would attempt to hit the server at once. The counter was a bad idea...yes. Live and learn. Frank asked my opinion...my response was - no more dates, no more counters, and shut the forum down sometime before the release date and leave it closed until just after. This way there was no build up and that would hopefully keep a lot of stress off the servers.

Yes there were a lot of bad decisions made on timing. Thankfully we'll never have to worry about release dates again - they are gone. The new features in 6.2 are definitely very complex and the reason why the game has taken so long. Game development is done. The installer was the last part and that was done a week ago. Will there be bugs? I would expect it. You can't possibly test the game on every possible combination of OS (with various patches from Microsoft), processor, ram, video capabilities, etc. One of the other good things right now is that AO is delayed...and hopefully will remain that way until the 6.2 release is well established. They don't need to waste time with AO until any upcoming support questions are taken care of.

Either way. Opinions on both sides were getting too heated. If you want to complain about threads getting closed - email me. Don't go after Bwob. I've been doing online moderation for too many years. I attempted to find a fair balance to people with legitimate first time complaints and those just trying to stir the pot to get flame wars going. When things got personal and just down right immature - thats when I pulled the plug.

Again complain all you want about anything. Just make it constructive. I've led two companies so far in my short life and during that time I've always led with the simple philosophy... Not everyone is going to like what you do and some people will bitch and complain. However, when those people bitch and complain you better have a solution to fix the problem or you are just spouting off to inflame it.


User currently offlineFrugalqxnwa From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 565 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 11127 times:

Quoting Ouboy79 (Reply 20):
If you want to gripe about the forums being shut down, blame me. Frank sent our an email about everything how we were obviously heading for a melt down if everyone would attempt to hit the server at once. The counter was a bad idea...yes. Live and learn. Frank asked my opinion...my response was - no more dates, no more counters, and shut the forum down sometime before the release date and leave it closed until just after. This way there was no build up and that would hopefully keep a lot of stress off the servers.

Yes there were a lot of bad decisions made on timing. Thankfully we'll never have to worry about release dates again - they are gone. The new features in 6.2 are definitely very complex and the reason why the game has taken so long. Game development is done. The installer was the last part and that was done a week ago. Will there be bugs? I would expect it. You can't possibly test the game on every possible combination of OS (with various patches from Microsoft), processor, ram, video capabilities, etc. One of the other good things right now is that AO is delayed...and hopefully will remain that way until the 6.2 release is well established. They don't need to waste time with AO until any upcoming support questions are taken care of.

Either way. Opinions on both sides were getting too heated. If you want to complain about threads getting closed - email me. Don't go after Bwob. I've been doing online moderation for too many years. I attempted to find a fair balance to people with legitimate first time complaints and those just trying to stir the pot to get flame wars going. When things got personal and just down right immature - thats when I pulled the plug.

Again complain all you want about anything. Just make it constructive. I've led two companies so far in my short life and during that time I've always led with the simple philosophy... Not everyone is going to like what you do and some people will bitch and complain. However, when those people bitch and complain you better have a solution to fix the problem or you are just spouting off to inflame it.

Thanks for the explanation about the forum being shut down, I can definately see your point.

A friendly FYI: My complaint has always been about the release dates being announced and not met, and the solution I proposed in one of my posts (and I believe I was the one responsible for the change in release date policy) was that I want EFZED to take as much time as they need. I would much prefer to have a game that is as bug-free as possible and wait a little longer. However, I, and many others, do not appreciate being told a definate date only to find out the game isn''t ready and needs more time. That is why I suggested that release dates no longer should be published. However, EFZED did post on the member login site that the server fix would be implemented on June 19th and thus implied a definate release date of June 19th and in so doing has blown another release date. This is getting real old real fast. The member's login should have read, "The server issue is fixed and the fix will be implemented and downloads will begin shortly." This way, if something came up and EFZED needed more time, EFZED could have easily taken the time without the customers getting too upset about another release date not being met.


User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4617 posts, RR: 23
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 11123 times:

I agree that the message could have been taken that way, and that was my fear. I took it to mean whatever first...more bandwidth, a new server or two, whatever...would be installed on that date and downloads would begin soon after (not specifically on the 19th). We can't satisfy everyone, and I think that has been an issue here. However, going forward we can hopefully look to no more dates at all and releases coming out when they are ready - as a suprise. I would be even more favorable of a public beta program for future releases before taking them gold.

User currently offlineFrugalqxnwa From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 565 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11105 times:

I guess I misread the message then (I guess I'm human after all). Thanks for the clarification.

User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5186 posts, RR: 33
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11093 times:

Quoting Ouboy79 (Reply 20):
Thankfully we'll never have to worry about release dates again - they are gone.

Although I may be mistaken, im sure a similar decision was made after the fiasco of the 6.1 release, it was promised then that no release dates would be given in future. It seems this policy change has been forgotten.

As far as I am concerned, the two things that have really annoyed me are the fact that they have continually missed the deadlines they have announced, but also the fact that it is the exact same fiasco as the 6.1 release was. They have not learned from the previous release.

My only concern is that we will see the same bugs as we saw last time which will make the game unplayable once it is actually released.

Back in 6.1 we had the same repeated delays, and the same last minute server issues. Sure its hard to predict delays, but the server issue was blindingly odvious to everyone except Efzed it seems.

Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes this time and avoid the same disaster when 6.3 or 7 is released.



That'll teach you
25 Deltaalpha : Personally Ouboy79 I am sick of the apologies. I want a program that I paid for delivered on time and on target. It has been a disgraceful display on
26 Post contains images Interpaul : It's online! Jan
27 Deltaalpha : And so they are. Thank goodness. Now looking forward to downloading and playing after work. DA
28 Mattlad : the download seems to be available
29 SJC>SFO : anyone else getting the "runtime 339" error when you try to "link aircraft to schedules". I'm hoping this is only happening to me, because the game is
30 Interpaul : I "played" the game for about 30 minutes and had at least 4 different runtime errors. So I guess we'll have to wait for patch after patch after patch
31 SJC>SFO : Unnnnnnnnnnnnngh. Craptastic. I've got a lot sympathy for the fellows over at efzed but the *game is not playable*, and it shouldn't have been releas
32 Dogfighter2111 : Yeh, i just downloaded the game and i get runtime errors here, their and everywhere. They really shouldn't released it with those errors, and surely A
33 Nighthawk : Actually runtime errors ar every easy to avoid, and are a sign of poor coding. A runtime error can occur in lots of places, but mainly it is a result
34 SJC>SFO : Nighthawk - did you actually get to the point of being able to process the first quarter?
35 Nighthawk : Yes, I have processed the first quarter in two games now, however the "extend lease" popup is screwed, it shows 4 aircraft when I only have one (than
36 Deltaalpha : same here crashed to desktop after trying to schedule just one flight. Damn I am disappointed. If I here one more time that they cant test it on every
37 SJC>SFO : Aside RTEs, there are a number of glaring errors in the game. Just some I've noticed: - Even if I pick "N. America" as my region for the game, I can s
38 FlyKev : I like the user interface on scheduling. Dont like the globe. (can't see northen canada) And it takes 30 minutes to load a new game on my pc (512mb ra
39 Post contains images Interpaul : Jan
40 Usairways85 : Wow, this sounds like a bummer. I was going to download and play for myself but maybe i'll wait a few days I knew the globe would be counter productiv
41 MarBergi : The data is readily available and I can think of several online games (Airline Empires, Clearskies, Airline Mogul) that make the have the same inform
42 Dogfighter2111 : Well, i have managed to process Q1! Although, it processes the data so much slower. Well, the progress bars are going fast but it is taking ages. In V
43 Post contains images Ouboy79 : Be sure you are reporting every issue to support@airlinesimulation.com INCLUDING your system config specs with OS, etc. If you can get a quarter proce
44 SJC>SFO : Sorry, Ouboy79, but that's ridiculous. There are literally dozens of errors that we're all encountering, and every time I send efzed one they send me
45 Nighthawk : Just tried my fouth game, and after processing the first quarter, I get a popup saying my staff have gone on strike.... once again, no matter how much
46 Skedflyer : I'm Getting the same here... Going to try once more.
47 Dogfighter2111 : This is the worst release they have had. I have never seen a release this bad. Thanks Mike
48 Frugalqxnwa : Any guesses as to how many customers EFZED is losing to the delay after delay only to release an unusable product? I have yet to process more than one
49 Nighthawk : They have lost me, thats for sure. The upgrade to 6.2 was my last upgrade credit, and I sure as hell wont be buying another! I also feel quite cheate
50 Post contains images Danny : At least you were lucky to get to 2nd quarter . My game crashes during processing Q1.
51 Dogfighter2111 : Guys, there is an update on their website. V6.2.09. Thanks Mike
52 Danny : My crashes were already with the update. Awaiting for 6.2.10.
53 Dogfighter2111 : Yeh, i jsut checked again. It is now out. V6.2.10 Thanks Mike
54 Deltaalpha : mine crashes with the updates to V6.2.10 with the very same RTE errors that were there before the updates. I of course sent them to support like the g
55 Dogfighter2111 : Another one now, V6.2.11 has now been released! Thanks Mike
56 Tommy Mogren : Ah, good. Then I'll download that one and see if I finally can start playing the game..... Tommy Mogren
57 COEWR : [Edited 2006-06-22 19:40:38]
58 Frugalqxnwa : 6.2.11 gets rid of a lot of the run time errors, but there are still lots of bugs. 1. There are at least three major airports missing: Boise Gowen Fie
59 Deltaalpha : No kidding and especially after all the bragging about how they were not going to release the game untill it was READY! So what were all those delays
60 Post contains images Dogfighter2111 : Well, in our business who'd say no to a free aircraft or two. Now, NO routes show up on my globe at all. The only globe it shows up on is in the Time
61 Frugalqxnwa : Interesting. I have most of my routes showing, but there is usually an oddball route that fails to show o the main screen. Wouldn't complain if the t
62 Tommy Mogren : Oh, shoot... Just upgraded to 6.2.11 and tried it out... As i was scheduling my first and only aircraft, it threw me an error and closed down. There I
63 SJC>SFO : Apologies to you all but I need to vent a bit... this is possibly the most dysfunctional program ever released - "Airline" or otherwise.
64 Deltaalpha : I am just glad they took their time on the program and didnt release it till it was ready.
65 NorthStarDC4M : ok venting time: The coding for this game is well... rediculous 1> starting a game... what is that, comodore64 days? It takes over an hour on an Athlo
66 Warreng24 : In 6.2... I can't seem to find the feature (that was present in 6.1) that allowed you to research the PAX demand between city-pairs. In 6.1 it used to
67 SJC>SFO : In addition to the problems with partnering (and missing cities, and load times), the lease and purchase operations are completely dysfunctional, so t
68 Frugalqxnwa : 6.2 is the first version with this scheduling system, and with as much hype as the scheduling system received, it is a big let down. I also think the
69 Frugalqxnwa : Well, I found another run time error: 30009: Invalid Row Value It happened while I was scheduling an aircraft. I also found another airport missing, H
70 Interpaul : Where do you assign a service level to a certain flight? I mean I can create service levels, but where do you actually assign them to a flight? Jan
71 FURUREFA : I HATE the new shed. system! It's sooo complicated, the old one was way better. Matt
72 Post contains images MarBergi : You mean it's not in the manual!!!! Oh yeah that right - there isn't one - another reason why I stopped purchasing the game - that and one of the mod
73 Dogfighter2111 : The manual is their if u press F1 during the game. Also, the moderator you happen to be talking about. By any chance would it be COUGHbwobCOUGH? Than
74 MarBergi : Thats not what I would call a manual, thats a badly put together help function. Call me old fashioned but when I spend 40-50 on a game/s I like to be
75 GSM763 : Any idea when or if the forums will be returning?
76 Frugalqxnwa : My guess is the forums will not be returning, I thing there's a little too much heat that would come from the forum than EFZED wants to deal with, eve
77 Deltaalpha : Load times are sick! They are taking WAY to long 45 min to start a game? OMG I do have some life to live.
78 Tommy Mogren : There's a new release now: v6.2.12 I'll install it now and see if it helps anything... Tommy Mogren
79 SCEagle : Still waiting to download it... Just don't feel like doing any beta-testing. I'll jump in when it all calms down... maybe 6.2.31 or such.
80 Frugalqxnwa : You're wise to do so, I wish I had waited. It takes me over an hour if I'm using all airports globally. Load times are much shorter if you choose hig
81 ANstar : Seems to happen with every Airline release. You would have though that with over 4 years experience you would have been able to sort this out? If oth
82 Frugalqxnwa : I'm up to 5 major airports missing: Bangkok Boise Boston Hong Kong Washington National Anybody else know of more? If their not careful their bad perfo
83 Usairways85 : well ezfed doesn't have nearly the same number of programmers and budget that Sony has for its game system, but still some of these run-time errors a
84 Dellatorre : OK people, since I started this thread I'll make some comments. First, there a numerous important airports missing in this release! Adding to those al
85 Frugalqxnwa : Dellatorre, are you playing 6.2.12? That should get rid of most of the run-time errors.
86 Dellatorre : Yes!!!!!!! Still having problems with the Schedule system!!!!!!!!!
87 Frugalqxnwa : Well, EFZED had better fix this snafu before it fubars on them. If 6.2.13 is still giving run time errors then they are probably going to be in big tr
88 SCEagle : Good thing they offer a forum for the customers to get together and share their experiences (good and bad). Would really suck if a customer felt that
89 Tommy Mogren : Me too....still haven't been able to get a single aircraft in the air... Keep getting "Time Clash" error.... Selected the aircraft to be scheduled ag
90 FlyKev : Ah unreliable software, and the forums are closed for 'maintenance'. Yeh, like. Oh please, your just hiding Efzed, hiding from the truth that your sof
91 SCEagle : "Closed for maintenance". Wasn't it just a few days ago that they were closed to (paraphrase) keep people from posting mean attacks against the hard w
92 Usairways85 : They spent a just about an extra year on 6.2. What makes you think it will be any better if they spend even more time. And chances are if that happen
93 MarBergi : If they spent another year on it they will probably call it 6.3, and then charge you for a new game. 6.1 was released before it was ready (an in real
94 Frugalqxnwa : I've gotten so fed up with 6.2 I have uninstalled it from my desktop, and now have 5.0 on there. I'm going to try to get 6.1 back on the desktom (I st
95 SJC>SFO : I think this may well be the end of "Airline". The existing customer base certainly won't be pushing any money into the company anytime soon, and the
96 Post contains images Frugalqxnwa : 6.2.13 is out, should I even bother trying 6.2 again?
97 NZ107 : 6.2.13 is out, although I haven't installed the game yet so I have no idea of the problems. It's 6 odd mb so it might be able to solve some of the pro
98 Frugalqxnwa : Nowhere in my purchase of Airline did I ever agree to be a de-facto beta tester. I have much better things to do with my time than screw around with
99 Dogfighter2111 : Well, After trying to schedule a flight at 22:05 i got a Run-Time error. I think it was when the flight was overlapping onto the next day. As this err
100 Tommy Mogren : That's it! I've had it! Tried the latest version 6.2.13. Still can't schedule the aircraft. As I drop the aircraft symbol onto the schedule I get "Tim
101 Nighthawk : Ive been getting that too (when it actually processes), i either get 5 passengers or a single passenger travelling on every flight. This is on LHR-AM
102 Deltaalpha : How the hell do you link a passenger service level to a flight????????? OMG i give up. Tonight I reload 6.1.19
103 Frugalqxnwa : 6.2.14 is out now and it is another 4-5 mb download, so hopefully it will get this piece of crap playable. I'll just wait until I hear about it being
104 Usairways85 : This is really sad. It hasn't even been out a week and look how many problems are listed on their page and there has already been 6 patches. To tell y
105 Dogfighter2111 : Well, V6.2.14 doesn't work either. What a surprise! This time, there is no PAX demand when you search in the 'Reports' menu. Also, BCN is not their ei
106 Dellatorre : I don't understand why EFZED can't add the missing airports. That is really annoying!!! "Even a 13 year old kid could simply check which major airport
107 SCEagle : What's a fundamental part of flying? Whether you're a pilot, mechanic, whatever? Checklist. Even works if you're... say... a software developer. Airpo
108 Post contains images Interpaul : I've been able to play for 3 quarters. Lots of PAX on my planes. Well, I leased 3 777s and 2 747s. After the first quarter I had 5 clones of the first
109 Tommy Mogren : So, you're actually able to schedule aircrafts as well... Interesting... Wonder why I can't without getting all these errors.... Tommy Mogren
110 Dogfighter2111 : I know how to make a profit, it doesn't work the same way as V6.1. You have to advertise first, before you get passengers. It makes sense. Thanks Mike
111 NZ107 : Yes I realise and no, it's ok for lashing out on me but it seems as though everyone is posting the RTEs here: for no reason whatsoever. I've only had
112 Frugalqxnwa : 6.2.15 is up. I wonder how many rtes there will be in this version.
113 Dogfighter2111 : Hey, Well, V6.2.15 has got rid of the duplication of aircraft at the end of a quarter. The scheduling system no longer gives errors, the only problem
114 Danny : Passenger report actually crashes the game for me.
115 Frugalqxnwa : Wow, and only on the seventh patch. 6.1 had 21 patches when all was said and done.
116 Dogfighter2111 : Well, i hate to say it but i was still getting Run Time errors on 6.1 after V6.1.21 So... Thanks Mike
117 Frugalqxnwa : I must be one of the lucky ones since I rarely if ever get a rte anymore on 6.1 (although I probably just jinxed myself).
118 Dellatorre : U must be very lucky, because even after updating the last patch V6.2.15, I still have the same Time Clashes and Run time erros on the scheduling sys
119 Deltaalpha : Has ANYONE had a playable scenario yet? With no crashes or RTEs? I made it through one quarter then had my people go on strike and I could not get rid
120 Dellatorre : "Have you recommended AIRLINE to a friend recently ? If you have you may be eligible for a free upgrade for your own copy of AIRLINE. Click here for m
121 Dogfighter2111 : Heya, I have managed to complete 2 years without getting any errors. Thanks Mike
122 Usairways85 : Well i finally installed the game and was able to get a game started although i have not done anything yet. I was awarded a large sum of 10 million to
123 Frugalqxnwa : I tried 6.2.15, and when I clicked back to the main screen I found myself running one of the ai airlines. When I clicked on Airline Reports, I got a r
124 Nighthawk : woo my airline 6.2 now appears to be fixed! I have successfully played 2 quarters, and made an absolute killing, it seems to be even easier than 6.1.
125 Post contains images Danny : Even when it doesn't crash it is still ridiculous. I have only 2 pax on each flights without advertising. Once I spend few millions on marketing I get
126 Post contains images UA777300ER : I've been reading airliners.net for a while now and have followed this thread from the beginning. Since the airlinesimulation forum is down for "maint
127 Danny : Same happened to me.
128 UA777300ER : I've sent a support request to Efzed yesterday, and when I went to zip my saved game, i noticed that it was almost 300MB (international airports, 11
129 Dogfighter2111 : There must be a load of crap in the Saved Game files if they are that large and can compress right down to about 99% of the original size! Thanks Mik
130 Post contains images UA777300ER : I have a feeling that they every time you start a new game, they load the database of available airports into the saved game. Otherwise, why would it
131 UA777300ER : BTW, version 6.2.16 is just out. Haven't tried it though...
132 Tommy Mogren : Could stop myslef. Downloaded V6.2.16. Leased a 747 and created the schedule. Then went to schedule my aircraft. This time I tried it manually, as it
133 UA777300ER : could be some kind of conflict between your regional settings and Airline settings. I always change my regional settings to "English(United States)"
134 Usairways85 : Is there anyway to minimize the game without pressing the windows button? In 6.1 i used to minimize it and get on the internet here and there. Now i s
135 UA777300ER : I don't think there is. I usually don't need to, because I have dual screen and put my excel sheet and firefox on the second monitor. But sometimes I
136 Usairways85 : alright got through a quarter with no RTE's however i am only getting 4 paxs per flt without advertising. So i'll try again with advertising, but it l
137 Frugalqxnwa : I agree that the 6.2 scheduling is a step backwards, and is one main reason why I prefer 6.1. The only major flaw in 6.1 (other than the rtes some us
138 Interpaul : Has anyone found out if connecting traffic works? That's the only thing I missed in 6.1 besides better AI airlines. Jan
139 Tommy Mogren : Right on the money Tom. That really did the trick! I never had to do that with the 6.1 release, so I never thought of that. Tried it and it worked li
140 Dogfighter2111 : Out of interest, does anyone know what has been fixed in V6.2.16? Thanks Mike
141 Tommy Mogren : Seems to be: * The geniune parts option is not saved. * Runtime Error '424' when viewing the maintenance screen. * The customer service managers effe
142 UA777300ER : you're welcome. It took a while to figure it out myself. Efzed had a technical bulletin (or how do they call it) about it once. in the airlinesimulat
143 Splitzer : I wish I still had the old 6.1 install files - 6.2 is shocking - constantly in the back of my mind it could crash at any moment. So far have emailed 3
144 Usairways85 : Well i can join the rest of you with load time issues. To start a new game it takes like 20 minutes, which i can stand. However, to load a game in whi
145 Dogfighter2111 : Thanks for the rather small list. lol Again, yes it is ridiculous but when it is zipped up it reduces size by 98-99%!!! Thanks Mike
146 Dellatorre : [quote=Tommy Mogren,reply=139]Right on the money Tom. That really did the trick! I never had to do that with the 6.1 release, so I never thought of th
147 Singapore_Air : I have to say I do feel somewhat sympathetic to the programmers after they have spent so long programming, though doing what it isn't too apparent. Al
148 Usairways85 : It may be a function they built into 6.2 but haven't implemented yet. They might have kept it out of the initial release just so they didn't have to w
149 UA777300ER : go to Start --> Settings --> Configuration. Then select the icon of Regional Settings (I think that's what it's called in english, I have a dutch ver
150 Dogfighter2111 : V6.2.17 is now out. It is only a 365kb download.
151 UA777300ER : Do you know what's changed? Checked the site, but they haven't updated it. Can't be much if it's only 365kb...
152 Dogfighter2111 : Heya, Sorry i don't know, i've not actually looked at it yet. Thanks Mike
153 Warreng24 : Have you guys noticed that the game has gotten more difficult. I'm having trouble filling my planes. In 6.1, I could almost fly anywhere with about a
154 UA777300ER : have you tried the advertising? It seems that you need to advertise before people fly your airline... Greetz
155 Nighthawk : I think its got easier..... on a route from EDI-MAD I would make about $4m in 6.1..... in 6.2 im making $20m. The plane is flying half empty too wher
156 Post contains links and images Singapore_Air : Well it's nice that you made money. I can't seem to do anything right but I have found a bug. My airline flies SINLONSIN at 0700 / 1200 ex SIN on a B7
157 Warreng24 : Oh yes. I am advertising about 500,000$ more than the recommended amount! Also, I'm finding that my load factors actually DECREASED as I added more a
158 UA777300ER : This is very strange, because some people seem to be able to fly full aircraft (or at least more than 10 pax per flight), while others can't. I can't
159 SCEagle : Hey, Good job EfZed... They opened up the forums... This should help get these issues resolved as people share their problems... (and yes, of course,
160 Deltaalpha : Yes better to open the forums so that they can end the bashing they are taking on this site. This way they can control the discussion and pick on your
161 NZ107 : Can someone please help me? I've used up both my download slots for 6.2.17 to 6.2.18 and I've been disconnected both times.. If anyone is able to emai
162 SCEagle : For anyone else in a similar situation, e-mail EfZed... in the past, they've given more download slots.
163 BA787 : Can spomeone send me in an instant message a thorough description of this game and whethre it is worth buying
164 SCEagle : It appears this thread has died off (I saw over 2 days from last post). So, does that mean that a) Airline 6.2.xx is stable and ready for mass-downloa
165 UA777300ER : I've tried to download the latest updates, but the website is so slow these days. Is it just me, or is everybody having the same problems?
166 Post contains images Nighthawk : Bear in mind that it is not possible to update from the release version (version 6.2.08) to the latest, 6.2.19. You need to download each patch indiv
167 MarBergi : Do Efzed still make you down load the main game in 30ish different files instead of making it on single download? While I appreciate that this is don
168 Post contains images UA777300ER : yes they do. There are 30 install files and then 10+ updates
169 Singapore_Air : No one seems to have notified them about the weird demand and no pax situation (or they are not conveying that via their online support call page)
170 Nicolasdec : dose any body have the online version is it as good as the real one
171 Singapore_Air : I tried again with 6.2.19 and it still gives me crappy loads. At first, LHRJFK with four A380s pulled in 1 J pax and 7 Y pax per flight... just like b
172 Dogfighter2111 : V6.2.20 has now been released. Let's see what changes in this one! Thanks Mike
173 Post contains images ZBA320 : I do find Efzed one of the worst companies for support around. Some people are paying up to $70 (£50) now that is an excessive amount of money for a
174 UA777300ER : ZBA320, I completely agree with you. The only really new features are the new scheduling system (which I don't like) and the map. On the other hand, t
175 BA286 : Yup! Im playing 6.1 and finding it way better than 6.2. I sent EFZED a pretty long email about 6.2 and they have not yet responede, i dont think they
176 Deltaalpha : I am also playing 6.1 and waiting till they get their sh** together with 6.2. I have had enough of waithing for it to load and for it to stop having R
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