Jetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2525 posts, RR: 40 Posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5177 times:
Hello,
My Birthday is coming up soon (early Sep.) and I was wondering which AI Traffic program to get. Now Ultimate Traffic or Traffic 2005?
A. Which one has the least amount of impact on FPS?
B. Which one has the best textures and models without efecting "A"?
C. Which one has accurate flight plans?
I was reading a description for traffic '05 and it sounds great but when it says it has some airports included does that mean my sceneries and AFCADS will be deleted in place of the ones included.
What is you experience with the two?
I'm on a lower end computer so FPS is critical.
Here's what I have FPS wise right now:
Ground 4-9 FPS Air 15-19FPS how will either of these programs effect my low FPS?
-Matt
Thanks in advance!
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Gunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3380 posts, RR: 13 Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5172 times:
The best AI you can have for FS is free. You can believe me now and learn more about it or figure it out later after wasting some money. Judging by your current frame rates, (which will be absolutely slaughtered by either of those programs) your FS dollars would be much better spent on some hardware upgrades.
I'm happy to help if you're interested in building your own AI traffic. You and your FPS will be much happier if you do.
Jetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2525 posts, RR: 40 Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5137 times:
Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 1): The best AI you can have for FS is free. You can believe me now and learn more about it or figure it out later after wasting some money. Judging by your current frame rates, (which will be absolutely slaughtered by either of those programs) your FS dollars would be much better spent on some hardware upgrades.
I just don't like feeling like building my own flightplans, each one takes 5 minutes. But, If there is an easier way, please tell me!
Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 1): I'm happy to help if you're interested in building your own AI traffic. You and your FPS will be much happier if you do.
I'm on 56k dialup and downloading planes is a b*tch and a half. Takes 45 minutes - 1hour for a 9mb file.
Oh and to let you know I'm going to buy a better graphics card in the near future.
For a 45kb file it takes almost a minute.
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Gunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3380 posts, RR: 13 Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5130 times:
Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 3): I'm on 56k dialup and downloading planes is a b*tch and a half. Takes 45 minutes - 1hour for a 9mb file.
Oh and to let you know I'm going to buy a better graphics card in the near future.
For a 45kb file it takes almost a minute.
The internet connection is definetly going to be a problem...In all honesty, if you're only getting 4-9 FPS on the ground right now, the addition of AI is really going to make things slow regardless of what models you add (we're talking 1-4 FPS or less), which is going to make things really unenjoyable for you. What are your system specs?
Jetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2525 posts, RR: 40 Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5122 times:
I'm on an emachines T1742 1.70Ghz Intel Celeron Processor 3D Intel Extreme Graphics ACP 40GB Hard Drive with Windows XP
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Elcableguy77 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 523 posts, RR: 6 Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5117 times:
How much memory does it have? That plays a big factor in your FS performance. Those are just slightly better than my specs, and I normally run at between 20-30 FPS with Utlimate Traffic and GA Traffic AI running at 100%. And I have 768 MB of RAM.
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Jetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2525 posts, RR: 40 Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5117 times:
I don't know how to look at RAM but IIRC its 500mb
EDIT: 384 MB RAM I found it
-Matt
[Edited 2006-08-06 21:32:07]
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Jetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2525 posts, RR: 40 Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5111 times:
CptSpeaking From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 635 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5104 times:
Quoting Elcableguy77 (Reply 6): That plays a big factor in your FS performance.
I have a Compaq Presario laptop with an AMD 64 processor...it shipped with 256MB or RAM and I wasn't getting very good FPS on FS9... (10-12)
About 6 months later I found a great deal on a 512MB upgrade, so now I'm up to 768 and it boosted my FPS significantly. (20-30 most times, even in high density areas but without traffic on...I get annoyed because the atc spacing sucks NOTHING like the real thing unless you've got another program running that handles that. A friend of mine uses one but I can't remember what it's called...)
Cadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9080 posts, RR: 41 Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5089 times:
Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 5): I'm on an emachines T1742 1.70Ghz Intel Celeron Processor 3D Intel Extreme Graphics ACP 40GB Hard Drive with Windows XP
Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 8): Hey, how much would 1GB of RAM get me?
With your system. 1 gig would help but its your processor and video that kill you. Celeron is, to be blunt: Shite. And when you go and get a new Vid card, make sure your pc has an AGP slot. Dont waste your money on a PCI video card. Its worthless for gaming.
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Jetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2525 posts, RR: 40 Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5088 times:
Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 10): With your system. 1 gig would help but its your processor and video that kill you. Celeron is, to be blunt: Shite. And when you go and get a new Vid card, make sure your pc has an AGP slot. Dont waste your money on a PCI video card. Its worthless for gaming.
Okay, lets say I get the 1Gb, what FPS would I get with Ut or Traffc05?
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Gunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3380 posts, RR: 13 Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5073 times:
Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 10):
With your system. 1 gig would help but its your processor and video that kill you. Celeron is, to be blunt: Shite. And when you go and get a new Vid card, make sure your pc has an AGP slot. Dont waste your money on a PCI video card. Its worthless for gaming.
Yeah, the processor is going to be a problem. PCI express cards are pretty good, but I don't think they're all that common in most computer setups. I've got one and it works fine.
Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 11): Okay, lets say I get the 1Gb, what FPS would I get with Ut or Traffc05?
It'll help a lot. It's tough to say exactly how much.
Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 8): Hey, how much would 1GB of RAM get me?
40 FPS?
Definetly not that much. I have 2GB and I only see that kind of performance once I'm off the ground.
Cadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9080 posts, RR: 41 Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5072 times:
They are ahead of AGP in speed and power. But they are only starting to show up in new pc's and that emachines is def not going to have one nor an AGP methinks.
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Jetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2525 posts, RR: 40 Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5066 times:
Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 12): Definetly not that much. I have 2GB and I only see that kind of performance once I'm off the ground.
Maybe 15-20 on the ground and maybe 20-23 in the air? with 1gb
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Cadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9080 posts, RR: 41 Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5064 times:
Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 14): aybe 15-20 on the ground and maybe 20-23 in the air? with 1gb
Maybe. But like I said, your main problem is your video and CPU. Wait a year or so, save up some cash and get a decent dell or build your own. Theres very little you can do with that computer becuase its 1) a celeron and 2) and emachines. Not trying to put ya down or anything but gaming and emachines arent a match made in heaven.
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Jetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2525 posts, RR: 40 Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5063 times:
Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 15): Maybe. But like I said, your main problem is your video and CPU. Wait a year or so, save up some cash and get a decent dell or build your own. Theres very little you can do with that computer becuase its 1) a celeron and 2) and emachines. Not trying to put ya down or anything but gaming and emachines arent a match made in heaven.
No offense taken. It wasn't bought for FS, it was for, well, my dad wanted a PC at the house so he bought one, I was never on the computer much, just every now and then to look for model airplanes, then I found A.net and signed up then looking in the hobby forum found FS and bought it and well, here we are, the whole computer is stock except for my Dad bought a little more memory for the hard Drive I believe. Other than that the pc is stock
Well, I'll go with World of AI and AI-aardvark.
Hopefully I'll get a new coputer some time soon, but my dad really like eMachines. I'm saving my cash up for A canon 20D so FS is second priority, but I want both, but, you can't own eveything (unless your bill gates)
-Matt
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GAIsweetGAI From Norway, joined Jul 2006, 878 posts, RR: 8 Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4936 times:
Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 3): I just don't like feeling like building my own flightplans
There's an easier way:
download AI flight plans (although those aren't always very accurate.)
I'm trying to get as close to reality as possible for AI traffic, meaning I'm trying to get a lot of airlines and flight plans. My frame rates are currently close to 14 FPS on the ground and more in the air (with a 1 or 2-year old PC.)
I could always put the whole thing in one big package and release it or send it over. Everything I use is freeware.
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Delboy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 687 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4885 times:
OK guys, getting back to the original question.
I have used both UT and Traffic 2005 and find that UT drains the fps rate far greater than Traffic 2005. My system is a 2GB Athlon 2800 with IGB memory and a NVidia6600GT graphics card.
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