Skywatch From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 923 posts, RR: 5 Posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5880 times:
If you go to CNN.com, it's on the home page. They said "using special software..." and it showed him on the menu of FS9! He had downloaded a Comair CRJ-100, but it still had the default 737-400 cockpit. A sad accident indeed, but I found CNN's wording slightly humorous.
SoonerLT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5847 times:
Dang! You beat me! haha. I was just about to say the same thing...."special software" haha. Honestly, I wondered how long it would be before one of the folks on this forum attempted to recreate the conditions and give it their own whirl in FS9.
KcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3875 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5839 times:
That guy said to put in the date and time and itll give you the exact weather. Bull......
Weather only downloads in realtime.
Thats not even the posky plane either lol.. its worse. Its some AI plane they got.
Also, during the roll, you notice they pass 110 KTS with what appears to be about 1.5 thousand feet to go... Another thousand feet (provided the guy tried to pull op on the game) and they could have been up.
Elcableguy77 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 523 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5838 times:
Quoting OB1504 (Reply 1): Oddly enough, the Project Open Sky model could sucessfully take off from Runway 26. I just tried it.
Which begs the question of how you took off. If you ran up to full power and released brakes like you would in a short-field T/O, yes it's possible. But, in all liklihood, that wasn't how 5191's takeoff roll went.
More likely is that they did a slow roll and gradually added power. Once the PIC realized the situation, he probably jammed the throttles to the stops, threw his flaps down, and he and the F/O were hauling back on the yoke for all they were worth before clipping the berm and the fence and punching through the trees before coming back down to the ground.
Incidentally, I gave it a shot with the likely weather conditions, along with most plausible fuel and already-known passenger load. With a normal takeoff roll and flaps at 20, I came up with about the same result as what looks to have happened. And, to be scientific about it, I made multiple attempts at it, each time having the same result.
And for what it's worth, it's my opinion that POSKY does a very good job with each of their models.
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JohnKrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1402 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5833 times:
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Quoting Elcableguy77 (Reply 6): And for what it's worth, it's my opinion that POSKY does a very good job with each of their models.
Considering they are FREE, it's very good. Remember, you always get what you pay for! If you paid 20$ for it I think you have the right to whine if you are not satisfied, but on freeware? The people at POSKY has delivered aircraft to the FS-community for years and has given tens of thousands of users a nicer FS experience, and for that they deserve a lot of credit! If you don't like it don't use it.
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I've seen FS used several times for accident re-enactments on German Media. 9/11 using the default Orbit B737 from FS2000 and a downloaded Tu154 and B757 for the mid-air collision over Lake Constance as a couple of examples.
OB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3531 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 5618 times:
I re-created it again with more information about the flight, and it seems that you're right.
I didn't want my post to be interpreted as a bash against POSKY, though. I love their models, and couldn't live without their A330s, A340s, 737NGs, 747s, 757s, and 767s. There's a reason no one's made any other freeware models of these airliners after they did!
N231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5390 times:
Quoting Skywatch (Thread starter): If you go to CNN.com, it's on the home page. They said "using special software..." and it showed him on the menu of FS9! He had downloaded a Comair CRJ-100, but it still had the default 737-400 cockpit.
Yet again, the stupid media makes its mark and screws things up...
GRZ-AIR From Austria, joined Apr 2001, 574 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5330 times:
I wrote CNN an email of complaint, that's what we all should do. They fail to mention that they are using a "toy" not a special software. Don't tell me a friggin NTSB Ex-investigatr would ever use FS9 to analyse a fatal air crash - this is embarassing for such a huge cable company - BAD CNN.