Skywatch From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 923 posts, RR: 5 Posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3941 times:
If you go to CNN.com, it's on the home page. They said "using special software..." and it showed him on the menu of FS9! He had downloaded a Comair CRJ-100, but it still had the default 737-400 cockpit. A sad accident indeed, but I found CNN's wording slightly humorous.
OB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2974 posts, RR: 8 Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3931 times:
Oddly enough, the Project Open Sky model could sucessfully take off from Runway 26. I just tried it.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19813 posts, RR: 56 Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3926 times:
Quoting OB1504 (Reply 1): Oddly enough, the Project Open Sky model could sucessfully take off from Runway 26. I just tried it.
Which says something about the realism of POSKY.
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SoonerLT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3908 times:
Dang! You beat me! haha. I was just about to say the same thing...."special software" haha. Honestly, I wondered how long it would be before one of the folks on this forum attempted to recreate the conditions and give it their own whirl in FS9.
KcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3637 posts, RR: 7 Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3900 times:
That guy said to put in the date and time and itll give you the exact weather. Bull......
Weather only downloads in realtime.
Thats not even the posky plane either lol.. its worse. Its some AI plane they got.
Also, during the roll, you notice they pass 110 KTS with what appears to be about 1.5 thousand feet to go... Another thousand feet (provided the guy tried to pull op on the game) and they could have been up.
Elcableguy77 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 523 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3899 times:
Quoting OB1504 (Reply 1): Oddly enough, the Project Open Sky model could sucessfully take off from Runway 26. I just tried it.
Which begs the question of how you took off. If you ran up to full power and released brakes like you would in a short-field T/O, yes it's possible. But, in all liklihood, that wasn't how 5191's takeoff roll went.
[speculation]
More likely is that they did a slow roll and gradually added power. Once the PIC realized the situation, he probably jammed the throttles to the stops, threw his flaps down, and he and the F/O were hauling back on the yoke for all they were worth before clipping the berm and the fence and punching through the trees before coming back down to the ground.
[/speculation]
Incidentally, I gave it a shot with the likely weather conditions, along with most plausible fuel and already-known passenger load. With a normal takeoff roll and flaps at 20, I came up with about the same result as what looks to have happened. And, to be scientific about it, I made multiple attempts at it, each time having the same result.
And for what it's worth, it's my opinion that POSKY does a very good job with each of their models.
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JohnKrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1340 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3894 times:
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Quoting Elcableguy77 (Reply 6): And for what it's worth, it's my opinion that POSKY does a very good job with each of their models.
Considering they are FREE, it's very good. Remember, you always get what you pay for! If you paid 20$ for it I think you have the right to whine if you are not satisfied, but on freeware? The people at POSKY has delivered aircraft to the FS-community for years and has given tens of thousands of users a nicer FS experience, and for that they deserve a lot of credit! If you don't like it don't use it.
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I've seen FS used several times for accident re-enactments on German Media. 9/11 using the default Orbit B737 from FS2000 and a downloaded Tu154 and B757 for the mid-air collision over Lake Constance as a couple of examples.
OB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2974 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3679 times:
I re-created it again with more information about the flight, and it seems that you're right.
I didn't want my post to be interpreted as a bash against POSKY, though. I love their models, and couldn't live without their A330s, A340s, 737NGs, 747s, 757s, and 767s. There's a reason no one's made any other freeware models of these airliners after they did!
Elcableguy77 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 523 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3637 times:
I whole-heartedly agree with you there. Their newly-released 739ER is a very well-done model, and I can't wait for their CR7 and 747SP to come out.
Former ZW F/A | "Wisconsin 72A, contact departure, see ya."
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7176 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3539 times:
Love that default panel they were using !
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N231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3451 times:
Quoting Skywatch (Thread starter): If you go to CNN.com, it's on the home page. They said "using special software..." and it showed him on the menu of FS9! He had downloaded a Comair CRJ-100, but it still had the default 737-400 cockpit.
Yet again, the stupid media makes its mark and screws things up...
GRZ-AIR From Austria, joined Apr 2001, 573 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3391 times:
I wrote CNN an email of complaint, that's what we all should do. They fail to mention that they are using a "toy" not a special software. Don't tell me a friggin NTSB Ex-investigatr would ever use FS9 to analyse a fatal air crash - this is embarassing for such a huge cable company - BAD CNN.
UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4286 posts, RR: 4 Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3194 times:
FriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4015 posts, RR: 5 Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2970 times:
I actually first found out about add-on aircraft from someone showing an AA 757 crashing into the WTC in FS2000 on CNN...not the best way to find out though...
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