AC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 8 Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 4 weeks ago) and read 7211 times:
Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 2): I wasn't really impressed by the graphics, some things are detailed that didn't need to be, and other things could do with more detail.
If you're basing your expectations on the FSX teaser pics released by Microsoft, you're setting yourself up for chronic disappointment. Screenshots from the manufacturer are very poor representations of what most consumers will see on thier computers.
Better to be nouveau than never to have been riche at all.
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8265 posts, RR: 41 Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 4 weeks ago) and read 7205 times:
Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 2): I wasn't really impressed by the graphics
A lot of those graphics are far better than FS2004. The first two images alone prove that, along with the wet runway and tyre spray blowing in the wind.
Quoting AC773 (Reply 1): some things are detailed that didn't need to be, and other things could do with more detail.
But those default terminals are much better than the FS2004 ones as are the autogen buildings. The roads don't seem to be any worse than they are in FS2004 at that altitude.
A lot of those graphics are better than FS2004. And remember, it's not just about graphics. Multi-user sessions, i.e. virtual airlines, should be much better, too.
AC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 8 Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7200 times:
Quoting David L (Reply 5): AC773 is such a great person. His knowledge of aviation is completely unsurpassed, and I could only hope to be more like him.
I'll consider your lesson learned.
Better to be nouveau than never to have been riche at all.
Gunsontheroof From United States, joined Jan 2006, 2969 posts, RR: 17 Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7169 times:
KPDX From United States, joined Dec 2005, 1600 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7155 times:
Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 8): Are those going to be the default cockpits?
Yep!
Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 2): I wasn't really impressed by the graphics, some things are detailed that didn't need to be, and other things could do with more detail.
The airport terminals could use better lighter textures, and the some of the Vegas signs don't need to be modelled.
The detailed road traffic looks good, but the blurred motorway texture ruins the effect. And in the last one they are driving on the edge of a cliff!
Like I said, he said there are bugs in the beta that wont be in the actual game when it comes out in public, for example: green water,blurred textures...
Dan2002 From United States, joined Dec 2002, 2049 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7100 times:
Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 2): I wasn't really impressed by the graphics, some things are detailed that didn't need to be, and other things could do with more detail.
The airport terminals could use better lighter textures, and the some of the Vegas signs don't need to be modelled.
The detailed road traffic looks good, but the blurred motorway texture ruins the effect. And in the last one they are driving on the edge of a cliff!
See kids, thats why they tell the beta testers in the NDA (NON DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT!!) that screenshots should not be posted. Its pre-release software, blah blah blah.
A guy asks 'What's Punk?'. I kick over a trash can and its punk. He knocks over a trash can and its trendy.
Gunsontheroof From United States, joined Jan 2006, 2969 posts, RR: 17 Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7004 times:
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 13): One thing - did anyone bother to look at the FPS counter?
I'd love to know how MS expects their beta testers to get anything done at 4-7 FPS...
Jamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 5 Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6960 times:
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 13): One thing - did anyone bother to look at the FPS counter?
Hmm not really, for a game in its beta id say thats quite good! when i played the demo though i was getting 20 FPS and my pc isnt even remotely top range.
Anyone see how horrible the 787,AN225,A380 and the concorde looks in the display thing.
rgds --James--
You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
Sv2008 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 622 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6945 times:
Although it's a beta do you think they'll really fix much now?
If this is for release on october 27th, it'll go gold in 3 weeks. Some small stuff might get fixed but don't expect too much. It depends on how old these screens are.
Sv2008 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 622 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6917 times:
A bit off topic, but now that Gmax doesn't exist anymore, what are people gonig to use to make scenery?
Although I can use more complex 3D model programs, what about MS making a version of Google sketchup for making buildings for FSX? It's much easier to use than any other editor, it would be free (assuming MS paid for the licence). Becasue it would be easy to use we'd see much more scenery (free scenery anyway) for FSX.
It seems only the most popular airports are modelled, and the best models cost money which I just can't afford. It'd be nice to see downloadable free smaller airports modelled in detail by people who live by them/use them.
Jetmatt777 From United States, joined Jun 2005, 2018 posts, RR: 41 Reply 19, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6892 times:
*Puts on Flame Retardent Suit*
Actually, The 'Mission's' don't look that bad. In FS9 I've always wanted to do airshows and similar. This will be a plus in my side, for the time's you just want to mess around on FS they provide some stuff for you to do when you just want to mess around. Sometimes I don't feel like doing a real flight, but just want to fly.
Mir From United States, joined Jan 2004, 13111 posts, RR: 65 Reply 20, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6867 times:
Quoting 777DadandJr (Reply 4): Why, in the Manhattan shot, does it look like the Citicorp building is in Brooklyn?
That building is in Queens, and does exist in real life. What I don't get is why that screenshot has the NYC streets running diagonally, when FS2004 had them running north-south and east-west, the way they should be.
Continental From United States, joined Jun 2000, 5171 posts, RR: 28 Reply 21, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6813 times:
It looks TERRIBLE. NO WAY am I getting that. I usually base all my judgments off beta screenshots. But, I'll eventually get FSX when avsim and others only makes add-ons for it, kinda like what I did with FS9.
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8265 posts, RR: 41 Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6713 times:
Quoting Continental (Reply 21): It looks TERRIBLE. NO WAY am I getting that. I usually base all my judgments off beta screenshots. But, I'll eventually get FSX when avsim and others only makes add-ons for it, kinda like what I did with FS9.
Signed,
A lot of people
I usually base all my judgements off beta screenshots and realise my mistake when I find out that the graphics are actually better than I thought because I had no idea what the specs of the PC used were, what settings were used, that the improvements involve more than just graphics and that just because the new version doesn't have absolutely everything I wanted, it's still better than the previous version.
Dan2002 From United States, joined Dec 2002, 2049 posts, RR: 8 Reply 23, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6685 times:
Well looks like my man Hal from MS lifted the NDA. That means I can take requests. Who wants screenies of what Oh, and, guess what. I get the RTM copy before you guys. *evil laugh*
Ok, seriously, I can actually answer more detailed questions about FSX now, so shoot.
A guy asks 'What's Punk?'. I kick over a trash can and its punk. He knocks over a trash can and its trendy.
What about seeing if you can get better versions of the last two in the opening post?
... but I may be wrong
26 Mir: It does, but without a closer look (hint to Dan ), I can't tell. I can't see the Citicorp building in that screenshot, but that doesn't mean it isn't
27 Dan2002: Release to market or release to manufacture. Take your pick. By the looks of it, the guy that took those shots doesn't know how to use the effect sli
28 Jetmatt777: Dan, take a screenie from OKC for me. Please? -Matt
29 David L: That's what I thought. The second last one is flying south down the Hudson River, to the northwest of Manhattan. The last one could be anywhere.
30 Dan2002: I know with a certain combination of settings in beta 1, the water and ground looked like hell. I'm pretty sure that's been fixed though. I assume th
31 San747: What's up with the LAS airport? What happened to the photoreal ground textures that have been a feature of LAS since FS2002 came out? And Manhattan se
32 Jasond: Is it my imagination or does FSX look a little 'disappointing'. I have simmed for a LONG time and my current FSCOF installation (with all its added fr
33 David L: How would you do that without buying the newer version? I guess you haven't read the thread.
34 Jasond: Buy the new version but don't install it for 2-3 months, wait for the inevitable patch etc etc to iron out the bugs plus the community time to get us
35 Dan2002: MS lifted the NDA a few days ago. I take it that this guy isn't on the beta team though, as you can download a copy of beta 1 from fileplanet or some
37 David L: And then just continue to use the older version? OK, please yourself but I'm glad I didn't try that with FS98 and miss out on FS2000, FS2002 and FS20
38 Dan2002: How many patches have there been for flight simulator, ever? I count 2. 2, in almost 15 years. Not too shabby.
39 Jasond: well yes, especially when payware packages you really like don't work in the new version... Historically I used all of the above but I waited a while
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