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So...I Bought A Graphics Card....  
User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4200 times:

Well I've finally done it! After reading this thread:

http://www1.airliners.net/discussions/aviation_hobby/read.main/92909/

I decided to listen to what people were telling me and bought a graphics card.

My machine is a 2.4Ghz, 1GB RAM and only FS2004 and associated programs running on it, it's solely for FS. HDD is 80GB. I have all the settings maxed out - scenery and AI Traffic.

I was perfectly happy with the results I had beforehand, I was getting anywhere from 10-20 fps depending on the airport, flying into LHR/ORD etc slowed it down to 5-7 fps. Not ideal but I hardly ever fly into those so not an issue.

I went on eBay and found myself an NVIDIA GeForce 6200 256MB for £30, brand new. After reading some reviews I was expecting a low end card, maybe getting 1-2 fps more, but with enhanced effects.

It arrived today and I installed it this evening. All I can say is - WOW!!!! The difference is astounding! I am now getting 40-70 fps on average, flying into large airports it's down to 20-25fps. I haven't managed to get it less than 20 yet!

Water is suddenly shiny and there are waves, clouds are real - fading in and out - the sun effects look amazing and the UK VFR Scenery runs crystal clear at 200kts and like a dream!

All in all I am incredibly impressed with this card, for the money I paid it is astounding! I haven't even tried overclocking it yet - but not sure what settings to put it to.

So yes I concede it is well worth paying a few quid and getting a graphics card, no going back now!  Smile

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User currently offlineCabso1 From Canada, joined May 2005, 502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4074 times:

Good news then. What in the world made you think that a 256mb grahics card is low end?

User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4054 times:

Quoting Cabso1 (Reply 1):
What in the world made you think that a 256mb grahics card is low end?

There's 512MB and 1GB cards on the market, and the fact that Googling the 6200 comes up with loads of forums saying "it's a low end card", "you will see only marginal improvement" etc - I just assumed it was!

I guess it isn't though with the results I'm getting - it's certainly a budget price though at £30! Well impressed with that!


User currently offlineSv2008 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4049 times:

Don't worry too much about memory, the chipset is more important.

User currently offlineAC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3989 times:

Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 3):
Don't worry too much about memory, the chipset is more important.

 checkmark  Companies can tack as much memory as they want onto a crappy chipset, and that card isn't suddenly going to become "good". While a 6200 is a good-size leap from integrated graphics, it's a far cry from the $100-$550 real market players right now.



Better to be nouveau than never to have been riche at all.
User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3981 times:

Where can I get one of these? I don't want to pay the shipping off Ebay, so are there any stores that stock them?


The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

Quoting Noelg (Thread starter):
It arrived today and I installed it this evening. All I can say is - WOW!!!! The difference is astounding! I am now getting 40-70 fps on average, flying into large airports it's down to 20-25fps. I haven't managed to get it less than 20 yet!

Integrated video was meant to view the operating system, internet and maybe a few 2D games. Only older 3D games will run well in a modern integrated graphics.

I used to try to play Age of Empires 3 on my system, before I had it on Intel's GMA 950 which used 224megs of my system memory and 50% of my cpu (Pentium D) to make the picture, frame rates were shotty. The fastest were on the order of 3 on the lowest settings. Initially I got a GeForce 7600GT CO with 256megs of DDR3 memory, wow, my 3Dmark06 benchmark score went from 223 to 3240 and the frame rates jumped into 18 on high settings. I then upgraded a few months later to a GeForce 7900GT KO with 512meg of DDR3, frame rates shot up to the 60's! When I bothered to overclock the video card, I reached a limit and the benchmark score is now 5530, with a stock speed cpu. All my games now are 40+ fps, except F.E.A.R., I think I need more memory.

Quoting Cabso1 (Reply 1):
What in the world made you think that a 256mb grahics card is low end?

Low-end depends on how much you spend. The break mark is per 100 with entry-level, then mainstream, then performance and over 400 will be the enthusiast/gamer market. It wont be long before Radeon's X1600 pro 512meg card will start to sell for less than 100.

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 5):
Where can I get one of these? I don't want to pay the shipping off Ebay, so are there any stores that stock them?

I went to newegg for mine http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/Su...sp?SubCategory=48&name=Video-Cards
Search around and find one that suites you, technically, for most uses, a 256meg DDR3 card will keep you at bay for several years. Examples would be either a GeForce 6600/7600 or a Radeon X800/X1600. Also make sure your motherboard has the slot for it before you buy. Try to avoid low-profile cards unless your computer is thin (less than 4 inches from the motherboard), it's hard to find upgrades in case your card gets too hot or loud, unless you have good airflow.

If you don't kwow if a game can run on your system, try this website link, it scans your computer against the req's for listed game. Initially I used it to see what I had. http://www.nzone.com/page/home.html PIck a game in the upper right, doesn't matter which, then click to test.

Quoting Noelg (Reply 2):
There's 512MB and 1GB cards on the market, and the fact that Googling the 6200 comes up with loads of forums saying "it's a low end card", "you will see only marginal improvement" etc - I just assumed it was!

Many of those forum members of true gamers and enthusiasts, to them, anything below either Radeon X1900 series or GeForce 7900 series is crap. Most wish they could afford the newer GeForce 8800. They are about the highest frame rates, sometimes 60+. Also, it's more about the type of memory than the amount, i.e. GDDR3 is faster than GDDR2.

Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 3):
Don't worry too much about memory, the chipset is more important.

Exactly. From what I can tell, memory speed (not just size) controls your bandwidth while the chipset (gpu core speed) control's the frame rate and how realistic your view of the world will look.

IMO, you could have gotten a GeForce 7300 series card or wait a few months for the upcoming GeForce 8400 series cards. While they are still considered into the lower end, they will be faster than your 6200 simply because they were meant to replace your card. If you like what you have then be proud. Essentially, a truly low-end device is one that just doesn't perform to your standards.



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