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Topic: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Sleekjet
Posted 2005-03-17 18:29:56 and read 4082 times.

I've been contacted by Miguel Silva about donating photos to his new magazine. Other than accreditation given each photo, the only benefit for me would be a free magazine.

I'd love to help him get this publication off the ground but I'm leary about giving away my photos. What do y'all think?

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Psych
Posted 2005-03-17 18:54:42 and read 4061 times.

I've received a similar email today from this magazine. Interestingly mine came from someone else - Luis Pessoa. I wonder why they would not come from the same sender  confused .

I have no experience of this kind of thing, and know that previously people have expressed suspicion here about such requests being sent by email. My natural tendency towards wariness will kick in here and I'll wait to see what other colleagues think before doing anything.

Paul

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: SA006
Posted 2005-03-17 19:44:01 and read 4050 times.

Just got the e-mail as well...

Dear Friend.

I´am working in a new aviation magazine called” Flying Photos.”
I would like to know if i can count with your colaboration in sending your
photos and some news.

The magazine Nº-1 will be printed out by the end of April/May and it will be
separated in the following way:

Photos of new airliners, colors scheme, models, general aviation and artistic.

Places to spot
General articles
Enterviews and sites
Photo contest

In trade we will send you a free magazine . All photos will be with the name of
the author ( unless you do not approve ), and will only be used in the magazine
and our site.

In the beginning the magazine will be bi-monthly.

Hope to have your colaboration, and ear from you soon.
Yours faithfully
Luis Pessoa


I don't know , don't think its anything to go by.

-SA006  wave 

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Sean377
Posted 2005-03-17 22:11:24 and read 3996 times.

Unless you make a living out of your photographs (anyone here?), then what's the harm in having one of your photographs printed in a magazine? I'd be honoured! After all, you are all prepared to upload here for nothing. What's the difference?

So what if the magazine owners make a profit. Be honest, you'd be pleased as punch to see one of your pics in a magazine. Remember, to most of us, it's a hobby, not a way of living.

Awaiting flack  bomb 

Sean

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: BigPhilNYC
Posted 2005-03-17 22:22:59 and read 3994 times.

I think that magazines like this are great for our hobby, and for good causes, I have no problem dontaitng a little of my work to help that cause.

Go for it.

Would you be able to email me his email address to bigphilnyc@yahoo.com. I'd like to volunteer my photos as well if he is willing.

-Phil

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Jan Mogren
Posted 2005-03-17 22:24:01 and read 3989 times.

Quoting Sean377 (Reply 3):
So what if the magazine owners make a profit.

Are you serious?

/JM

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Sean377
Posted 2005-03-17 22:26:55 and read 3983 times.

I knew the flack would come.

If it's a hobby, then yes.

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: DLKAPA
Posted 2005-03-17 22:37:23 and read 3971 times.

Quoting Sean377 (Reply 3):
So what if the magazine owners make a profit. Be honest, you'd be pleased as punch to see one of your pics in a magazine. Remember, to most of us, it's a hobby, not a way of living.

Right now I'm an unemployed college student if that means anything.

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Sean377
Posted 2005-03-17 22:47:49 and read 3966 times.

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 7):
Right now I'm an unemployed college student if that means anything.

It means nothing to this thread.

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: DLKAPA
Posted 2005-03-17 22:57:29 and read 3958 times.

I was referring to your comments earlier in this thread (in case you didn't get it from the "quote"), so yes, I think it does have something to do with where this thread is going.

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Sean377
Posted 2005-03-17 22:59:35 and read 3954 times.

Sorry, I get your drift. You going to donate then?

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: SA006
Posted 2005-03-18 15:27:36 and read 3889 times.

Quoting Sean377 (Reply 3):
So what if the magazine owners make a profit.

Um , if this dude is going to make a profit , I would at least expect pay not just a free magazine. I originally posted to find out whether this is magazine is for real or this is one of those fake spam e-mails sent to all the photographers...

-SA006

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Granite
Posted 2005-03-18 15:38:27 and read 3882 times.

Hi all

Hmmm.......memories of another hobby magazine that went tits up and some photographers left out of pocket............including Johan I think.

Be carefull and get all the info/facts first.

Regards

Gary

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: SmAlbany
Posted 2005-03-18 17:17:56 and read 3865 times.

I received that email as well. I am the suspicious sort so I am not planning on responding.

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Mikephotos
Posted 2005-03-18 17:30:15 and read 3861 times.

Quoting Sean377 (Reply 3):
Be honest, you'd be pleased as punch to see one of your pics in a magazine. Remember, to most of us, it's a hobby, not a way of living

I'm more pleased when I see my name on a check that comes in the mail.

Mike

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Sean377
Posted 2005-03-18 20:28:55 and read 3835 times.

Well, like I said, unless photography pays the mortgage (to which no-one replied)! If it's doesn't, what's the problem?

Is a couple of hundred bucks really going to change your life? I'd rather have the satisfaction.

Sean

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Mikephotos
Posted 2005-03-18 20:57:03 and read 3819 times.

Quoting Sean377 (Reply 15):
Well, like I said, unless photography pays the mortgage (to which no-one replied)! If it's doesn't, what's the problem?

That's not the point. I personally don't enjoy giving my work out for free if someone else is going to make money off it. There are exceptions of course.

Quoting Sean377 (Reply 15):
Is a couple of hundred bucks really going to change your life? I'd rather have the satisfaction

That's the problem, a lot of photographers are cool with the "satisfaction" and that in turn screws the working-photog. No a couple of hundred bucks is not going to change my life. And I do not live off my photo sales income. However, a couple hundred bucks times 10 or 20 published pics per year is a nice figure. Yeah, it's nice to see your "name in lights" but that quickly fades. I like to use a quote from Jerry McGuire, Show me the money...

Mike

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Sean377
Posted 2005-03-18 21:22:47 and read 3809 times.

Quoting Mikephotos (Reply 16):
I personally don't enjoy giving my work out for free

If it's your 'work', I agree.

If it's just a hobby and you don't want to let others benefit from your 'work' then that's your prerogative. Then why upload here?

And 10 or 20 pics a year borders on becoming 'work'.

Perhaps we should just agree to disagree!

I'd be happy just to take a picture that anyone else had a remote interest in!

Sean

[Edited 2005-03-18 21:28:01]

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Mikephotos
Posted 2005-03-18 21:32:57 and read 3804 times.

Quoting Sean377 (Reply 17):
Then why upload here?

Because I enjoy sharing my photos with others and a side benefit is few bucks I get from sales. Would I upload if no one ever purchased a picture, yes. Remember, this is a hobby for me as well, a serious hobby. If I did not enjoy doing this I certainly would not be here. I've been doing this a very very long time and it's still very much and always will be a part of my life.

Quoting Sean377 (Reply 17):
And 10 or 20 pics a year borders on becoming 'work'.

More like a hobby that takes a lot of work. Work to become a better photographer, work to learn better post-processing, work to learn programming to run my own site, work to find new means of possible sales, work, work, work. If I sold 0 pictures, 10 pictures or 1,000 pictures, I still would not screw the real working pros (I'm not) out of their living by offering free photos to clients that should pay. Remember, you have to think not only of yourself.

Mike

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Sean377
Posted 2005-03-18 21:56:36 and read 3795 times.

Mike

I don't want to harp on, coz this is going nowhere, but you say "work to find new means of possible sales" i.e. you intend or would like to make money out of your pics.

Some would, some wouldn't.

Regards

Sean

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Mikephotos
Posted 2005-03-18 22:03:27 and read 3793 times.

Sean, whatever works. Just think of others. By you (or anyone) giving away photos for free (to see your name in lights) you are screwing with people that try to make a living. No, I'm not talking about me. I do this for fun. Yes, I do intend to make money off my photos when I can, why shouldn't I? but trust me, I am very much into this as a hobby...probably much more than you are, if I may be so bold to say so. Anyone who knows me, would agree.

Mike

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Sean377
Posted 2005-03-18 22:29:31 and read 3784 times.

Mike

Ok, you win! You may be so bold. I'll just go admire your pics now.

Sean

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Mikephotos
Posted 2005-03-18 22:34:37 and read 3779 times.

Quoting Sean377 (Reply 21):
Ok, you win! You may be so bold. I'll just go admire your pics now.

Before you admire my pics, you must pay me  Smile No hard feelings, I understand your views to a point and glad you understand me.

Mike

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Sean377
Posted 2005-03-18 22:36:48 and read 3775 times.

Cheque's in the post.

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Wanderer
Posted 2005-03-18 22:39:46 and read 3778 times.

As someone who has very little money, I am happy when I sell my photos. I have just sold some of my ship photos to a company and am very pleased, especially as I have ambitions to become professional or semi-professional. If people can sell their photos, Sean, then please tell me what is wrong with that?
If someone offers me money for my photos I am hardly going to turn them down.

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Lindy
Posted 2005-03-31 16:34:38 and read 3658 times.

I've got one today. With the same error "Hope to have your colaboration, and ear from you soon.
Yours faithfully
Miguel Silva"

I don't know why he wants original TIFFs, all magazines including Airways Magazine are fine with 1024x... format that we have on this site. If he wants to put our pictures on the cover then I understand.
But I think he wont be "earing" from me. It looks like a scum to me.
-Flyingphotos.com is up for grabs, anyone can buy it (why he didn't do it yet)
- Every legitimate business these days have a web site
-He is using free email address like yahoo.com or hotmail.com

Rafal

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Fergulmcc
Posted 2005-03-31 17:13:24 and read 3643 times.

There is one point that hasn't been made here and it was made in a similar discussion about giving away photos for free.

Your camera didn't come free of charge did it! so why should you give your photos away for free.

This is a hobby to me, allbeit a serious one and yes if I could make money out of it ,I would, but I'm not that good just yet, hopefully soon. Big grin

Just a thought

Fergul Big grin

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Clickhappy
Posted 2005-03-31 20:17:49 and read 3618 times.

all magazines including Airways Magazine are fine with 1024x

First off, that is an untrue statement, second off, that is why the photos in Airways are shit, and the joke of the industry.

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Tameteora
Posted 2005-04-09 14:41:55 and read 3505 times.

Sorry for the late reply...

Quoting Sleekjet (Thread starter):
I've been contacted by Miguel Silva about donating photos to his new magazine. Other than accreditation given each photo, the only benefit for me would be a free magazine.

I'd love to help him get this publication off the ground but I'm leary about giving away my photos. What do y'all think?

This guy Miguel Silva checks out ok. Last January he asked for the use of some of my photos, not for this new magazine, but for printing postcards. We agreed a deal, and although it did take a long time (until yesterday to be precise) I did get exactly what we had agreed upon.

He's a very enthusiastic guy, I sure think he deserves some help to get this new magazine started.

Aad.

Topic: RE: "Flying Photos" Magazine
Username: Pepef
Posted 2005-04-09 15:34:04 and read 3485 times.

Propably a lot more people watch our photos for free on this site than they would in that new magazine. Yet none of you are asking Johan to pay for having them on display.
So let the guys get the magazine going, and once it's profitable start to ask for a little something. Wouldn't the magazine just make this hobby more popular?

-pepef-


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