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Topic: Opinions On These Photos
Username: Longhornmaniac
Posted 2006-11-26 07:31:45 and read 5243 times.

Hey guys,

I'm still trying to crack the database for the first time, and hopefully, with my Sony H5 armed at my side, I'll be able too. I still don't think these are good enough, but we'll see what you think. Maybe you have some editing suggestions. Do you have any suggestions for photo editing software, especially freeware. I have Picasa, and have sharpened etc... with it, so here's what I have.

Any and all suggestions, even constructive criticism will be much appreciated  Smile

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l244/Longhornmaniac8/AUSSpotting10-11-06057.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l244/Longhornmaniac8/AUSSpotting10-11-06052.jpg

Thanks again guys!

FYI, these are at AUS.

Cheers,
Cameron

PS, one question: fundamentally, should a 7.1 megapixel camera have the quality to touch the database? Needless to say, a lot of it depends on how you use it, but some cameras, regardless of photographer, won't be good enough. I suppose I'm asking, is this one good enough? Thanks!

Topic: RE: Opinions On These Photos
Username: Eadster
Posted 2006-11-26 08:16:22 and read 5230 times.

Sorry to say but no good. For one they are too small and therefore cannot judge on the MD, the other however is blurry, and the quality is not good at all.

Topic: RE: Opinions On These Photos
Username: Longhornmaniac
Posted 2006-11-26 09:31:00 and read 5220 times.

I figured as much on the 2nd one, but it was worth putting up, just because I like it.  Smile I don't know how to upload an image to a hosting site like photobucket and keep it under one MB. The image itself is 2571 x 2092. How do I change the size to an acceptable format without something like Photoshop?

Thanks for the input!

Cheers,
Cameron

Topic: RE: Opinions On These Photos
Username: 9V
Posted 2006-11-26 10:22:58 and read 5208 times.

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 2):
I don't know how to upload an image to a hosting site like photobucket and keep it under one MB

Try www.flickr.com instead.

Topic: RE: Opinions On These Photos
Username: StealthZ
Posted 2006-11-26 10:27:03 and read 5206 times.

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 2):
How do I change the size to an acceptable format without something like Photoshop?

Cameron,
I think Martin sums up the issues, but I must add you will need a product like Photoshop, Photoshop Elements is fine but there are other similar products eg PaintshopPro etc.
You will not succeed in getting photos accepted here unless you learn at least basic post processing skills.

Regards

Chris

Topic: RE: Opinions On These Photos
Username: Longhornmaniac
Posted 2006-11-26 17:49:52 and read 5165 times.

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 4):
Cameron,
I think Martin sums up the issues, but I must add you will need a product like Photoshop, Photoshop Elements is fine but there are other similar products eg PaintshopPro etc.
You will not succeed in getting photos accepted here unless you learn at least basic post processing skills.

Regards

Chris

Thanks Chris! That is good to know, I suppose what I'm been wondering now is, for an ameteur photographer, will Photoshop Elements serve my purpose? Photoshop is SO expensive, and I'm almost positive I won't have a clue how get the most out of it (at least not yet, of course practice makes perfect). I think, with some practice, and some books, and just a greater understanding of photography in general, I'll be able to get more out of my camera (for instance, I just use the auto setting, because I'm not sure what all the little tweakings and manual settings are yet). For these uses, will Photoshop Elements do?

Also, what "basic post processing skills" would you be refering to, just so I can get a heads up, and start studying.  Smile

Thanks again for the constructive criticism all!

Cheers,
Cameron

Topic: RE: Opinions On These Photos
Username: INNflight
Posted 2006-11-26 18:23:52 and read 5157 times.

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Thread starter):
PS, one question: fundamentally, should a 7.1 megapixel camera have the quality to touch the database?

I still "only" have 6.2mp's and they are in theory (apart from noa_motives my cam tends to shoot) easily enough for Anet  Smile

Cheers,
Florian

Topic: RE: Opinions On These Photos
Username: Walter2222
Posted 2006-11-26 18:53:31 and read 5144 times.

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 5):
what "basic post processing skills" would you be refering to

Hi Cameron, there is a "pdf-document" mentioned on the photo-upload page . That is certainly a good start! There are a lot of variants and when you check this forum regularly, you will find also other references and you will also get good help from others (more experienced than myself).

Quoting INNflight (Reply 6):
I still "only" have 6.2mp's and they are in theory (apart from noa_motives my cam tends to shoot) easily enough for Anet

That's certainly correct (you can even have crops from the available 6.2 Mpix and still make it... but that is not a certainty!)! But what is of even more importance, is the lens before the camera and the person (and the hands holding the camera, and the eye selecting what to shoot) behind the camera
 Smile ...

PS: Practise makes perfect

Best regards,

Walter

Topic: RE: Opinions On These Photos
Username: Scottieprecord
Posted 2006-11-26 18:55:28 and read 5144 times.

Quoting INNflight (Reply 6):
(apart from noa_motives my cam tends to shoot)

haha. classic...  Smile

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 5):
is, for an ameteur photographer, will Photoshop Elements serve my purpose?

I've gotten 105 shots in through Photoshop Elements 2.0, so that ought to do.

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Thread starter):
fundamentally, should a 7.1 megapixel camera have the quality to touch the database?

Yes. But try, as a new photographer, to capture stopped, or slow-moving aircraft under good lighting and good weather conditions. This will always be your best chance at achieving a higher quality. I don't have much experience with non-SLR digital cameras, but see if you can switch yours to a 3:2 ratio. Your best bet for getting a shot on Anet is to upload at 1024x683 pixels.

As for your shot of 17L at AUS... I have one from last february that's pretty similar. FYI: I was told in the forums by Mr. Johan himself that runway shots need to have a plane visible! lol. Personally I still love just plain runway shots though... Here's mine:

http://www1.airliners.net/uf/view.fi...5509&filename=11645635399VTrHi.jpg

Oh, and Hook 'Em Horns!  Smile

-Mike P

Topic: RE: Opinions On These Photos
Username: JRadier
Posted 2006-11-26 19:07:43 and read 5142 times.

Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 8):
FYI: I was told in the forums by Mr. Johan himself that runway shots need to have a plane visible! lol.

say what? Recently accepted:

(warning: self plug)

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Jurgen Radier

Topic: RE: Opinions On These Photos
Username: Scottieprecord
Posted 2006-11-26 19:17:39 and read 5137 times.

http://www1.airliners.net/discussion...id=219176&s=runway+administrator#4

**Quoted from the above linked thread**

Quoting Administrator (Reply 3):
Yeah, although we accept runway shots occasionally, they usually contain something of interest or are night shots etc.

I take it back... he didn't specify that it needed a plane. But the post before his did, and he didn't refute it. Perhaps yours was accepted, Mr. Radier, because it contains more of an airport overview, having the tower and some hangars in the background... Is there an actual rule regarding runway uploads??

-Mike P

Topic: RE: Opinions On These Photos
Username: Longhornmaniac
Posted 2006-11-26 19:42:56 and read 5122 times.

Quoting Walter2222 (Reply 7):
Hi Cameron, there is a "pdf-document" mentioned on the photo-upload page . That is certainly a good start! There are a lot of variants and when you check this forum regularly, you will find also other references and you will also get good help from others (more experienced than myself).

Well thanks Walter, I'll be sure to check it out!

Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 8):
Yes. But try, as a new photographer, to capture stopped, or slow-moving aircraft under good lighting and good weather conditions. This will always be your best chance at achieving a higher quality. I don't have much experience with non-SLR digital cameras, but see if you can switch yours to a 3:2 ratio. Your best bet for getting a shot on Anet is to upload at 1024x683 pixels.

As for your shot of 17L at AUS... I have one from last february that's pretty similar. FYI: I was told in the forums by Mr. Johan himself that runway shots need to have a plane visible! lol. Personally I still love just plain runway shots though... Here's mine:

Again, Mike, thanks for the input. It's always appreciated to a inexperienced photographer like myself. Any little bits of advice will always be appreciated.

Cheers,
Cameron

Topic: RE: Opinions On These Photos
Username: Longhornmaniac
Posted 2006-11-26 21:54:17 and read 5096 times.

Alright Guys, I finally invested in Photoshop Elements, and with only the PDF, this is what I came up with. I really can't notice much of a difference, but maybe its better than I thought  crossfingers .

Please pick it apart!

AA MD-82 Photoshopresized

Cheers,
Cameron

Topic: RE: Opinions On These Photos
Username: 9V
Posted 2006-11-26 22:00:11 and read 5093 times.

Aircraft is too far in the distance - you need to crop it a lot tighter. Also there seems to be a reddish tint to the clouds.

Topic: RE: Opinions On These Photos
Username: Longhornmaniac
Posted 2006-11-26 22:23:19 and read 5087 times.

Quoting 9V (Reply 13):
Also there seems to be a reddish tint to the clouds.

What would you suggest to get rid of it, if possible??

Thanks!

Cheers,
Cameron

Topic: RE: Opinions On These Photos
Username: StealthZ
Posted 2006-11-26 22:51:19 and read 5082 times.

Cameron,

If you contact me via my profile, (click on my user name) I will respomd with my email address and you might like to send me the original image, I will process and send back with a description of what I did.

Cheers

Chris


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