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Topic: For All The Prop Lovers, Propfreak, Proplegend Etc
Username: N178UA
Posted 2003-08-12 14:56:48 and read 5890 times.

Absolutly gorgoeus plane, make sure you see the big version. Love


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I feel so depressed that I couldn't get her last time in South Africa, well one day hopefully.

I found props also great to photograph and collect, how come hits are always lower I wonder?  Big grin

Sam

Topic: RE: For All The Prop Lovers, Propfreak, Proplegend Etc
Username: Skymonster
Posted 2003-08-12 15:05:27 and read 5866 times.

Sam, that Carvair is almost enough reason on its own for me to go back to South Africa... I've seen it and photographed it before, but not since its been tidied up and flown by Pheobus Apollo - if I could GUARANTEE seeing and being able to get some good photographs of it, I would probably go.

Props never get that many hits, even if they're interesting or rare ones. However, I've found that they generate quite a bit of e-mail. I can only presume that the few people who are passionate about big-props care about them alot. As for the rest who don't bother about big-props... HEATHENS! Big grin

Andy

Topic: RE: For All The Prop Lovers, Propfreak, Proplegend Etc
Username: Cancidas
Posted 2003-08-12 15:13:27 and read 5866 times.

simply stunning. thank you! i wish i could see more of them myself!

[Edited 2003-08-12 15:13:51]

Topic: RE: For All The Prop Lovers, Propfreak, Proplegend Etc
Username: Timdegroot
Posted 2003-08-12 15:51:36 and read 5841 times.

Yeah props don't get many hits, I noticed that when uploading some of my dad's old shots. I guess the average age of the Ainet viewer doesn't allow for them to have seen many props operating commercially, hence the lower interest......

I don't think I have ever seen a Carvair, but I still love it Smile

Tim

Topic: RE: For All The Prop Lovers, Propfreak, Proplegend Etc
Username: Skymonster
Posted 2003-08-12 16:11:00 and read 5825 times.

Having said that of course, I chech the number of hits on all pictures of this Carvair, and two of the three have over 700 hits, the third picture has over 3000 hits. Maybe its novelty value - not many folks have seen a Carvair!

Here's an interesting side question for anyone interested: Which well-know current airline head-man played a significant role in the development of the Carvair?

Andy

Topic: RE: For All The Prop Lovers, Propfreak, Proplegend Etc
Username: RayPettit
Posted 2003-08-12 19:43:31 and read 5783 times.

Andy,

.......and didn't the same man build a prototype of a competitor to the F27/748, albeit a little smaller?

Topic: RE: For All The Prop Lovers, Propfreak, Proplegend Etc
Username: Skymonster
Posted 2003-08-12 20:07:33 and read 5779 times.

Ray said: and didn't the same man build a prototype of a competitor to the F27/748, albeit a little smaller?

Yup, he certainly did. I see no one is rising to answer the question, even though you obviously know yourself!

Andy

Topic: RE: For All The Prop Lovers, Propfreak, Proplegend Etc
Username: David_itl
Posted 2003-08-12 21:10:22 and read 5763 times.


It was Sir Freddie wasn't it.

David

Topic: RE: For All The Prop Lovers, Propfreak, Proplegend Etc
Username: Cptkrell
Posted 2003-08-12 22:44:39 and read 5757 times.

Indeed, it was Sir Freddie Laker. It's rumored that Sir Freddie conceived the project in the bathtub as a replacement for Air Charter's Bristol Freighters in about the 1959 time-frame. Neat photo. I have an aversion to smiley faces on airplanes, but, neat photo...Jack

Topic: RE: For All The Prop Lovers, Propfreak, Proplegend Etc
Username: Skymonster
Posted 2003-08-12 23:01:26 and read 5741 times.

OK, we've settled on Sir Freddie Laker as being one of the main drivers behind the Carvair project, through his managing Aviation Traders Engineering Ltd (ATEL) at the time the Carvair was conceived - maybe even in the bath, as Cptkrell suggests. ATEL did all of the conversions from standard DC-4s to Carvairs at Southend in the UK.

RayPettit said: and didn't the same man build a prototype of a competitor to the F27/748, albeit a little smaller?

So now, bonus points for the supplimentary question... What was the name of the airplane to which Ray refers?

Andy

Topic: RE: For All The Prop Lovers, Propfreak, Proplegend Etc
Username: David_itl
Posted 2003-08-12 23:30:25 and read 5729 times.

ATL-90 Accountant (thank goodness for my old reference books!)

Edited cos I found this webpage about it.

David

[Edited 2003-08-12 23:40:56]

Topic: RE: For All The Prop Lovers, Propfreak, Proplegend Etc
Username: Skymonster
Posted 2003-08-12 23:42:39 and read 5718 times.

Indeed David... I don't suppose that many of us have got photographs of an Aviation Traders Accountant!



Andy

Topic: RE: For All The Prop Lovers, Propfreak, Proplegend Etc
Username: David_itl
Posted 2003-08-12 23:58:59 and read 5722 times.


You know the "saddest" part of my research was to look for the registration of it using my "Civil Registers of Great Britain 1919-1985", and not looking beyond aircraft registered G-APxx as I thought knew the vintage registers were in-sequence. Of course, this aircraft just had to be slap bang in the middle of a batch of aircraft registered in 1965.

David

Topic: RE: For All The Prop Lovers, Propfreak, Proplegend Etc
Username: Skymonster
Posted 2003-08-13 00:07:56 and read 5715 times.

First ever out-of-sequence registration in the UK maybe? I know what it was - G-ATEL!  Big grin

Andy

Topic: RE: For All The Prop Lovers, Propfreak, Proplegend Etc
Username: Tonimr
Posted 2003-08-13 00:30:29 and read 5703 times.

Yeah props don't get many hits, I noticed that when uploading some of my dad's old shots.

And who cares?

One shot of these birds gives more interest than a bunch of A330's or B777 to A.net database!!!

Please, keep uploading more oldies...  Big thumbs up

Toni


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