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User currently offlineFutterman From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1301 posts, RR: 43
Posted (11 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

seems to be getting a little tedious, but here are some rejections from the last batch of pics. i understand why they rejected some of them, but it just doesnt seem justified. cant explain it [then again, thats how everybody feels about their own pics...]

badmotivbadexposure
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=PA050245.JPG
-if its badmotive for the top of the building [with all the bird crap], i can crop that out. as for badexposure, its obviously because its not the brightest of pictures. i think the light has a nice effect, but i guess i should go brighten it then...

badmotiv
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=PA050230.JPG
-you mean to tell me that open cargo door and packages ruin the photo? puhleese!

badmotivbadexposure
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=PA050163.JPG
-badmotive, i dont see. badexposure i guess i can work on...

badmotiv
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=PA050197.JPG
i really think they should lighten up on including ramp lice, especially if we 'try' to hide it...sheesh.

badmotiv
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=PA050150.JPG
-so i guess the shadow ruined the shot, right? if not, then tell me how this got in:

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badmotiv
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=PA050203.JPG
...sigh...


input/comments/opinions appreciated  Smile...gracias por tu tiempo  Big grin


What the FUTT?
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User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

here's what i think.....

1- the building is in the way, so i understand the badmotive

2- i don't see anything wrong with that pic, but the cargo door is open.

3- the quality is kinda dull, maybe its my crappy lcd.

4- you caught too many rampies in the picture. and dude, don't call us lice.

5- this pic i don't get.

6- you have a lot of clutter, a lot of rampies and the open cargo door. so i kinda understand the badmotive.


here's a tip, wait to take the pic until right before the plane is pushed back. then everything will be out of your way. ususally everything will be moved from the gate when a plane is buttoned up. only the tug will remain.

if you can, you should try to ask the rampies to move. be nice, but we always did. i know it's not happening through the glass in the terminal, but this is for future reference.




"...cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home."
User currently offlineAviatortj From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2368 times:

I agree with what Cancidas said, especially with technique. I just want to know how the heck you got some of those shots? They look good, one thing I am learning is that these screeners will only help your shots look better. If at first you don't succeed, try again. I am looking forward to more of your shots in the DB.

~TJ


User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2362 times:

FUtterman....

Why are you making life hard for yourself?? The quality of the photos is pretty decent, but this site, as is noted in another thread, does not like ramp lice photos. You can like the photos, I can like the photos, Joe Blow might like them...but Johan has told the screeners that he does not like them, so unless it is something really special there is small chance that a photo featuring lots of ramp equipment/personell etc...will be accepted.

Focus your energy elsewhere and you will have much more success.

Just my thoughts...

Tony


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2336 times:

I agree with all the bad motives. Have you ever read what bad motive means? Bad Motive = "What is the point of this picture, as I can't tell..." or "why did you take this picture?"

composition, lighting, angles, clutter, ...all could be improved, I think that is what they are trying to tell you with those rejections in my opinion.

It appears you are trying to hard.

v/r
Jeff

I had a reject today as well..


More of a place overlooking an airport, then an airport overview, but I thought it might have had a chance. The Chapel at the U.S. Air Force Academy, It kind of overlooks the field where the AF cadets learn to fly. Oh well...

[Edited 2003-10-09 06:57:03]

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2299 times:

If that B-24 is real, that's a mighty big church! Big grin

About the rejections:

1) Dark, partially obscured (wheels), rear quarter view unattractive, no clear subject.

2) Rather a tough call, but I have to agree with badmotive. The rear angle is not terribly attractive, and maybe zoomed in a little too much.

3) Definately dark. Why cut out half of the airplane?

4) Borderline, too cluttered.

5) Rather pointless. You see nothing but a hand and an airport chart.

6) Cluttered, nosewheel obstructed. When you have so much in the picture, try to select only shots that "tell a story". I don't see the point to such a shot, as it is here.

Charles


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

I would comment, but i've got to go out. I totally agree with Charles and Cancidas, alot of them are unmotivated closeups that aren't really needed, plus some of them are in shadows with bright parts, and there are ramp lice all over alot of them.

User currently offlineFutterman From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1301 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2243 times:

ok ok thanks for all your input  Smile.

FUtterman....
is that an emphasis on anything? lol

also got another few rejects today, two of which i totally disagree with. or maybe its juts me. let me know...

badmotiv
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=PA050221.JPG
-no obstructing view, and since when is a tail/wingtip not motivated?

baddouble
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=PA050221.JPG
-i laughed so hard when they rejected this one for baddouble. joke aside, i really have nothing to say for this pic.

some of the pics seem to be a little tight, and thats because thats all the room i could give. fences, light poles, other planes, etc all would have interfered. i dont have ramp access, after all.

thanks again  Big thumbs up



What the FUTT?
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2239 times:

Look identical to me  Big grin.

Yes, definitely badmotiv, the photo is a bit dark, the tail/winglet isn't very interesting and its taken without the sun on it.


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2228 times:

I don't get why did you laugh, you not even clean that black dot in the middle of the sky.

Luis


User currently offlineFutterman From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1301 posts, RR: 43
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2168 times:

well, i wont bother to show you the baddouble one just yet...

is the DAL tail/wingtip shot really that dark? sheesh...i thought some nice sunset light would have added a nice touch. looks bright enough to me...

baddark
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=PA050224.JPG
-ok, you can call the other one dark. but THIS? puhlease...

badmotivbadcentered
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=PA050170.JPG
-does it remind you of this?:

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What the FUTT?
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2165 times:

Brian,
Are you paying attention? The screeners are trying to tell you something...


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2164 times:

Jeff, it started this way with Clovis... long time ago  Big grin

Luis


User currently offlineGabep From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

If at first you don't succeed try, try again.

User currently offlineFutterman From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1301 posts, RR: 43
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2155 times:

ok ok ill shaddap. its not like you can do anything about it anyway.  Insane


What the FUTT?
User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2086 times:

ok ok ill shaddap. its not like you can do anything about it anyway
True! And reuploading the unchanged doent make things any better
Cheers
Peter



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User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2082 times:

badmotivbadcentered
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=PA050170.JPG
-does it remind you of this?:


Yes, it does remind me of that... And that's half the problem - too much like the other one. The other half the problem is that the airplane's to the right of the frame and you've chopped part of an engine off.

With respect, suggest you take a few more complete airplane pics before you start trying to get too clever with parts and things... Basics right is the first challenge.

Andy


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