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Stolen Picture Or Not?  
User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3546 times:

Hi Guys.
need some good eyes please.
http://www.orf.at/031012-66309/index.html
The picture in the middle.
Heres another link just in case the pages doesnt work anymore:
http://members.chello.at/sabine.und.peter/pics_big/orf.jpg
Is the picture i mentioned a cut out from this one or not?
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=041_os_a321_211_oe_lbf.jpg
Thks
Peter - VAP-Group


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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3506 times:

Yup almost 100% sure,

By the way, if it helps, if you can't really tell crop your own picture down to the same size, makes it easier  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.

Cheers,

Dan.


User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3503 times:

Im sure too.

But btw, where did they steal the picture from? Since it was rejected here?

Wietse

EDIT: never mind, I found it  Smile


[Edited 2003-10-12 15:46:25]


Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineLennymuir From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2002, 434 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3501 times:

It does look the same Peter, but how could they steal a photo from the reject queue?.
Is it on any other photo databases?
Also, you shot it yesterday. That is fast theft!

Gerry


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3499 times:

The subject is the same but could it be that other photographers made the same shot from the position as you? it seems from outside the airport perimeter.

Luis
BTW, Peter shooting light poles???


User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3482 times:

No... Yours was taken in sunshine, the other has far less distinct shaddows - just a general darkening that occurs when an airplane is taken in under clouds. Someone stood in the same place as you.

Andy

[Edited 2003-10-12 16:27:37]

User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3470 times:

Good eye Andy, looks like the other picture is darker for sure, especially in the under wing areas and the landing gear...



User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3450 times:

Hmmm. True about the brighness, but when i crop mine like it looks exactly the same so the photographer must have been standing at the EXACT same spot. Just count the windows and see the position of the logos.
Heres my version croopped.
http://members.chello.at/sabine.und.peter/pics_big/orf_small.jpg

Peter



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User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2104 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3439 times:

No I do not think it was stolen. If you compare the nose in relation to the engine of the plane behind it, you will see it is a different relation from your photo. The photos were taken from different perspectives.


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User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2370 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3376 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
FORUM MODERATOR

Hi Peter

NO! look at that small horizontal shadow underneath the engine in your photo, it's not there in the ORF one ... or they edited it .
However, that's a oublic position there and I think there are many press photographers that also made photos that day on the very same location.

Mario
LH526




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User currently offlineAdministrator From Sweden, joined May 1999, 3251 posts.
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3256 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
SITE ADMIN

Important:

Links from the discussion forum will be followed by search-robots like google.
As Google is VERY good at finding the exactly correct information it is not unlikely that it was found that way by them (orf). Also google caches images, and it could have been taken from Google even without anyone entering our site.

If it was only hours between the photo was probably in the rejection page at the time when a robot (google or other) was searching our site. Normally there are some days in between updates at search-engines.

Don't link to places you shouldn't.

/Henrik



Working on the site from morning 'till night that's livin' alright (1997-2007)
User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3157 times:

Peter, I'm convinced it's your shot. Every point I put on the news shot matched in reference to yours. In regard to the comment about the shadows, each photo in that strip has been faded dark near the bottom, including peter's, which is why it looks shadowed.


FSP

[Edited 2003-10-15 00:17:25]

User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3509 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

How could rejected photo be stolen? I assume only you and screener knew about its existance. Unless you ulpaded it somwhere else too?

User currently offline707cmf From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3099 times:

Not your shot. Probably taken same place same day, though.

But the titles on the 'top' aircraft are cut, while they are not on your shot.

707


User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3023 times:

Peter, did you take the shot from the car parking?
I think you did, and its a quite popular place in Vienna.

I remember when, back in February this year, I was in Vienna. There was a parked 767, I took a shot of it, from the car parking of course. Before uploading I checked in the db its exact version, and I found a few shots of the same a/c from the same spot and even the angle.

So it could be yours, as well as someone elses.



How much A is there is Airliners Net ? 0 or nothing ?
User currently offlineTriple7300 From Austria, joined Oct 2002, 41 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2923 times:

IMHO that is your shot.Just take a look on the A320´S nose and the small bright grey patch on the engine`s nacelle.Exact the same position.
Brightness and contrast are changabel in PS.
Andy


User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6872 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2869 times:

What should one do when he/she finds a "stolen" pic WITHIN airliners.net?

However, before it is removed, I would like to take legal action against the person first... (not the photos mentioned in this thread)

Mandala499



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