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Stolen Picture Or Not?  
User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4164 posts, RR: 52
Posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4212 times:

Hi Guys.
need some good eyes please.
The picture in the middle.
Heres another link just in case the pages doesnt work anymore:
Is the picture i mentioned a cut out from this one or not?
Peter - VAP-Group

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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4172 times:

Yup almost 100% sure,

By the way, if it helps, if you can't really tell crop your own picture down to the same size, makes it easier  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.



User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4169 times:

Im sure too.

But btw, where did they steal the picture from? Since it was rejected here?


EDIT: never mind, I found it  Smile

[Edited 2003-10-12 15:46:25]

Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineLennymuir From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2002, 434 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4167 times:

It does look the same Peter, but how could they steal a photo from the reject queue?.
Is it on any other photo databases?
Also, you shot it yesterday. That is fast theft!


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4165 times:

The subject is the same but could it be that other photographers made the same shot from the position as you? it seems from outside the airport perimeter.

BTW, Peter shooting light poles???

User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4148 times:

No... Yours was taken in sunshine, the other has far less distinct shaddows - just a general darkening that occurs when an airplane is taken in under clouds. Someone stood in the same place as you.


[Edited 2003-10-12 16:27:37]

User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4136 times:

Good eye Andy, looks like the other picture is darker for sure, especially in the under wing areas and the landing gear...

User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4164 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4116 times:

Hmmm. True about the brighness, but when i crop mine like it looks exactly the same so the photographer must have been standing at the EXACT same spot. Just count the windows and see the position of the logos.
Heres my version croopped.


User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2114 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4105 times:

No I do not think it was stolen. If you compare the nose in relation to the engine of the plane behind it, you will see it is a different relation from your photo. The photos were taken from different perspectives.

An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2434 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4042 times:

Hi Peter

NO! look at that small horizontal shadow underneath the engine in your photo, it's not there in the ORF one ... or they edited it .
However, that's a oublic position there and I think there are many press photographers that also made photos that day on the very same location.


Trittst im Morgenrot daher, seh ich dich im Strahlenmeer ...
User currently offlineAdministrator From Sweden, joined May 1999, 3251 posts.
Reply 10, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3922 times:


Links from the discussion forum will be followed by search-robots like google.
As Google is VERY good at finding the exactly correct information it is not unlikely that it was found that way by them (orf). Also google caches images, and it could have been taken from Google even without anyone entering our site.

If it was only hours between the photo was probably in the rejection page at the time when a robot (google or other) was searching our site. Normally there are some days in between updates at search-engines.

Don't link to places you shouldn't.


Working on the site from morning 'till night that's livin' alright (1997-2007)
User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3823 times:

Peter, I'm convinced it's your shot. Every point I put on the news shot matched in reference to yours. In regard to the comment about the shadows, each photo in that strip has been faded dark near the bottom, including peter's, which is why it looks shadowed.


[Edited 2003-10-15 00:17:25]

User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3535 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3804 times:

How could rejected photo be stolen? I assume only you and screener knew about its existance. Unless you ulpaded it somwhere else too?

User currently offline707cmf From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 27
Reply 13, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3765 times:

Not your shot. Probably taken same place same day, though.

But the titles on the 'top' aircraft are cut, while they are not on your shot.


User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3689 times:

Peter, did you take the shot from the car parking?
I think you did, and its a quite popular place in Vienna.

I remember when, back in February this year, I was in Vienna. There was a parked 767, I took a shot of it, from the car parking of course. Before uploading I checked in the db its exact version, and I found a few shots of the same a/c from the same spot and even the angle.

So it could be yours, as well as someone elses.

How much A is there is Airliners Net ? 0 or nothing ?
User currently offlineTriple7300 From Austria, joined Oct 2002, 41 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3589 times:

IMHO that is your shot.Just take a look on the A320´S nose and the small bright grey patch on the engine`s nacelle.Exact the same position.
Brightness and contrast are changabel in PS.

User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 7515 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3535 times:

What should one do when he/she finds a "stolen" pic WITHIN airliners.net?

However, before it is removed, I would like to take legal action against the person first... (not the photos mentioned in this thread)


When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !
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