B764 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 758 posts, RR: 1 Posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2300 times:
I know the spotting situation @ ORD and Chicago in general is not spotter friendly. However, I'm tired of this sh*t. Although I don't live in Chicago I'm willing to put my words on paper to local city officials. Let's try and by-pass Daily. Heck, lets go after the media if we have to.
I propose a dedicated spotting area (doesn't have to be near ORD terminals) where fellow enthusiasts can go and not be harassed. We would be the aviation department's civil police patrol. Also, it would be an excellent idea to see if Boeing would be willing to sponsor such an area.
What I'd like to know is if anyone knows if the ORD area is represented by a city alderman? If not an alderman how about a state representative or state congress? If so who?
Does anyone think a write-in campaign would be of any benefit?
I would love to hear the ORD enthusiast's thoughts, as well as those fellow spotters who are tired of being harassed like terrorists.
JeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2259 times:
That is a good one. Let me know if you have a hangover when you wake up after that trip. No offense, but who is to pay for such an area? Taxpayers? I'm sure they would love to be taxed even more for something 99% of them will get no benefit from. Extra parking lots need to be made, fences, signs, liabilities gallore. I have been reading the local paper here in Chicago all week and guess what? The amount of taxes people pay, and the demand for more city services from that money has been a topic everyday in one form or another. Let's fire a few policemen and firemen so we can fund a nice little viewing area out near the airport....... You think people were mad when the Cubs didn't make it to the World Series?
I doubt Boeing wants to throw money away on such a project unless their name shows up in every picture like the advertisments plastered around boards of a hockey game, or off to the side of a catcher in a baseball game.
Rsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2243 times:
Why would the TOP BRASS at Boeing want to spend money on a spotter area at ORD or any other airport for that matter..........After all in might dip into old Uncle Phill Condit sweet lil BONUS package....
B764 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 758 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2243 times:
Well for Jasonwinn we've located the name and contact information of the alderman in the ORD area. I've started the exact same post in the civil aviation forum. Thanks for wanting to contribute. I sure hope if there ever is a Boeing observation area some others won't grace us with their presence
Midway Dc9-10 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2167 times:
It's interesting because you used to see tons of people around all different locations anywhere you looked around MDW/ORD. I used to see families drive up in vans at both airports. These people want to see the activity but they are probably not die-hard aviation fanatics who would support this.
I personally would love to see something like this. 27L used to be a really popular spot but I got chased out of there today for the first time. They just don't want to deal with people like us. When they chase people away it give the general public the idea that they are really doing something to protect us from terror. People can be so naive!
It doesn't make sense how an airport in one city determines it is ok to have an observation lot 100 yards from a runway while another won't let you sit in a parking lot from twice the distance away from the airport.
CactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2148 times:
I had a Schiller Park cop circle the USG lot while I was there two weeks ago. Just checked me out and moved on. SPPD officers usually don't kick anyone off the lot, although they will watch you and make sure you're just a spotter and not doing anything suspicious. Chicago PD on the other hand can act like the Gestapo when it comes to booting spotters. Spotting at ORD has become such a crapshoot lately.