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Copyright........can People Make Postcards?  
User currently offlineAndyhunt From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1306 posts, RR: 52
Posted (13 years 10 months 1 day ago) and read 1471 times:
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Hopefully we have a Aviation Photographer / Lawyer!

I am just wodnering whether anyone knows, if I sell a slide to a slide agency (e.g. Exavia, Avimage, F-Stop) are they then allowed to make a postcard (1000's of copies) out of it without my permission and sell this for profit.

In other words, once I sold the slide, did I sell away all rights to it or is there some recourse I can take?

As you can probably guess, this has happened.

Anybody know???

Thanks in advance

Andrew


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User currently offlineSkyliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 204 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (13 years 10 months 21 hours ago) and read 1235 times:

In a word, no, on both counts. If this is primarily a hobby organization, suggest that you request that they send you a quantity for your use (no charge to you, of course), and agree not to use your photos in the future without your permission. If it is a business/commercial entity, you could consider billing them for the usage--$100-200 would not be inappropriate--and if this is not to their liking they should consider negotiating in advance the next time.
George


User currently offlineBrownphoto From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 151 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (13 years 10 months 21 hours ago) and read 1224 times:

The answer to this question lies in what agreement you set when you sold the photo.

Was there a contract? Was anything agreed upon verbally?

Please provide a little more info.

Joe Brown


User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (13 years 10 months 19 hours ago) and read 1218 times:

No! When selling slides to slide lists, you do not sell the copyright. The lists I deal with would never consider doing this without permission from me. Of course, this doesn't stop them (or someone buying the slide) from doing it but I've never had a problem.

Michael


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 10 months 18 hours ago) and read 1209 times:

Andy,

I remember when you just took photos for fun !!!

Love your photos from Zurich.



User currently offlineTommy Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 912 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (13 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 1200 times:

Hi Andy,

No, when you're selling your slides to a slide service, they have NO right to produce postcards, without your agreement.

You hold the copyright of the slide!

/Tommy Mogren
Viking Slides - http://www.vikingslides.com



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User currently offlineAndyhunt From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1306 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (13 years 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 1196 times:
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Well I guess this is not the 1st time that Exavia have done this. I found an African Star B747-300 postcard advertised on Ebay which was mine.

I have also found slides of mine published in a book with the credit "Exavia".

Guess I'll have to pursue this with Mr. Hornlimann of Exavia. Good thing I stopped shooting with them a few years ago otherwise who knows what would have happened to my shots.

Andrew



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User currently offlineAviasian From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1489 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (13 years 10 months 12 hours ago) and read 1201 times:

Hkgspotter1 : What has Andrew's concern got to do with shooting for fun?

Stumbling upon your own photographic works in the form of postcards and publications without proper credits and dues certainly is troubling to say the least.

Any attempts to understand the legality of the issues at stake here, and the recourse opened to the photographer does not in any way mean that the photographer has lost the element of fun.

Andrew is seeking educated advice from learned photographers . . . not flippant digs. Other photographers (myself included) are keen to read and learn from the wisdom of other photographers . . . if you don't mind.


User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6643 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (13 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1165 times:

Aviasian,

I think you misunderstand HKGSpotter1. He meant that when we used to know Andy, he was not that interested in photography for money, but interested in spotting only. We used to sit in HKG just watching.

Andy, did you manage to sell all those Cambodian 727 slides?


User currently offlineAndyhunt From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1306 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (13 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1156 times:
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Colin / Daryl,

I'm not really interested in photography for money. I did it for a while, but I found that it was compromising my hobby, so I stopped selling to agencies like Exavia.

This discussion is more to do with copyright than money.

Cambodian B727 slides? I've still got a bunch of them locked away.

Andrew



Full frame always beats post processing
User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1130 times:

You still have them !!, with something like that Andy I tell you up , up and up the price !!. That was one very hard to see plane.

I still remember those days. Sitting along the roadside taking pics in those holes in the fence. Coming back to the airport covered in crap !!!

The good old days !!


User currently offlineFlame From Ireland, joined Feb 2001, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1100 times:

Andy;

I know its not much compensation...but, I for one appreciate knowing the name of the people that did this to you, I will be wary of them in the future and will not send any material to them


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1091 times:

Thats the best thing to do.

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