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Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?  
User currently offlineBronko From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 810 posts, RR: 12
Posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3419 times:

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This picture was rejected for bad contrast, but of course looks good to me or else I would not have uploaded it. The lighting that evening was really odd, and I did not mention it to the screeners.

Anyone think it needs more than just some additional brightness? I may just toss the photo if I have to do to much to fix it, as I think it did capture the light that evening.


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User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3401 times:

Huh?

Good shadow detail. No fuselage blowout.

badcontrast?


User currently offlineJoge From Finland, joined Feb 2000, 1443 posts, RR: 40
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3361 times:

Looks good to me, the sun is low anyway and causes the "high" contrast.

-Joge



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User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5486 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3354 times:

Great lighting, looks good to me.

Justin


User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 20 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

Looks fine to me...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineYEGPIX From Canada, joined Mar 2002, 159 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 20 hours ago) and read 3315 times:

It looks good to me  Confused Kevin

User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9601 posts, RR: 69
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 19 hours ago) and read 3304 times:
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the only thing I can think of is the dark blue, which appears somewhat washed out on the tail compared to the fuselage, but that might just be from the sun

Was there a message from the screener? You can always appeal, or retweak and reupload


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 17 hours ago) and read 3286 times:

Just try burning the tail some.. and don't sharpen to the point of jaggies. I like it!

Jeff


User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3242 times:

Really crisp shot. I don't get it  Confused

FSP


User currently offlineBronko From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 810 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3189 times:

Thanks everyone. I will try tweaking and reuploading. Since I am not appealing the shot, do I simply reupload as a new photo?

Royal: No extra comments from the screeners.
Jeff: What do you mean by 'burning the tail'?

I would like to hear any comments from the screeners, since they might see something we aren't



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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3175 times:

There are two tools on the PhotoShop palette that look like little wands, one is dark, one is light. One "dodges" the negative as in the old days, and makes things a little lighter, the other "burns" the negative and makes things a little darker.

You can burn or dodge Highlights, mid-tones, or shadows to varying degrees, and with different sized brushes.

Jeff


User currently onlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1609 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3174 times:

Beautiful colors! IMHO, they really bring out the bright livery of ATA and the shininess of the plane! I'm no professional, but if I were you, I'd appeal it.
-N243NW Big grin



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User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3168 times:

Jeff,
How did you dodge and burn negs? I used to dodge and burn prints in the darkroom.  Big grin

Bill


User currently offlineSyncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 2015 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3148 times:
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Try running the 3 Auto (Levels, Contrast, Color) "Items", I ran them real quick and it helped make it a little more brillant (can't really explain it very well).

User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

Bill???? You know what I meant!  Smile I was trying to describe the process of dodging / burning from a negative. Anyway...those tools work well in photoshop, I don't recomend using "auto" anything in Photoshop....

Jeff


User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3141 times:

Just pulling your chain Jeff.  Big thumbs up

I completely agree about avoiding auto-adjusting. It's too blind a process.

Believe it or not, the BEST trick to learning to be a better photographer is a basic, Photo 100 class with a black and white darkroom lab. (Shock!) You can find one at nearly any community college. It's all about fundamentals.

At the very least you'll finally understand what all those funny looking tool icons in Photoshop really mean!



[Edited 2003-11-25 04:31:13]

User currently offlineBronko From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 810 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3125 times:

Thanks again everyone. Hopefully I will have some time soon to try all of your suggestions. I really need to take a PS class, or find a good book. But, as Bill pointed out, a photog 101 class might help with the underlying fundamentals.


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