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Help! My Slides Comes Out Too Dark.  
User currently offlineGocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4346 posts, RR: 20
Posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3837 times:

Hello, I'm currently new to using slides but when the picture is scanned it comes out too dark.
Here's a link to my picture, it's no good but I want to know how to take great pictures using slides before I leave to NYC later this month.

http://hometown.aol.com/staggerwing777/myhomepage/index.html

I'm using a Nikon N65 with a Qantarary 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6 AF. The film that I used is Kodachrome Elite 100 on a nice sunny day. Does anyone has a problem like I have having their slides turning out really dark? Is it my camera or maybe the lens?
I usually shoot with print film and they turn out great but I dunno what's wrong with slides. I've heard people mentioning a loupe and a lightbox. Will that tell me if my slides are dark and grainy?
Any info is apprieciated, thanks again.

Kevin/DCA

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User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3742 times:

Kevin,

If the slides are overall dark, I would say you are underexposing the shot. Remember, with slides even a 1/3 stop +/- will give you different results. Looking at a slide with a loupe and lightbox will give you a better view of the slide (ie. to determine if it's sharp or soft) but you should be able to tell if a slide is perfectly exposed just by holding it up to a light source. It's tough to determine from the scan if this slide was underexposed because of several factors. First, would be the scanner/scanning process. It could just be a poor scan. Second, the type of shot it is. Looks like the aircraft is only partially lit by the sun. How does the slide look compared to what you remember the acutal scene to be?

If I'm able to meet-up with you when you make it to NY, I'd be happy to look at a few of your slides and give you my opinion.

The best way to learn how to shoot slides IS to shoot slides, so be prepared for some bad ones. It shouldn't take too long to get excellent results if you take the time and learn from your mistakes.

Michael


User currently offlineGocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4346 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3720 times:

Thanks Mike, but my friend scanned that slide on his Minolta scan dual II and he also told me that the slides were dark when holding it up towards light. Since this is my first time I've seen slides, I'm not quite sure what a properly exposed slide looks like. But i'm gonna still continue to shoot slide film while I'm in the NYC area. Hopefully the weather will be nice.

Regards,

Kevin/DCA


User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3717 times:

Kevin,

Basically, a properly exposed slide should look exactly like the scene you photographed. Of course, some people prefer very slightly under or very slightly over, it's a matter of taste. As long as you don't go to the extremes of either.

BTW-OT: Noticed that you jetski, what are you riding?

Michael


User currently offlineGocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4346 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3717 times:

Hey Mike, thanks again. I'll see if I can bring my box of slides with me to NY. If we possibily meet, can you bring a few slides of your own so I can have a "sneak" peak on what a good exposed slide looks like? I'm trying to call my friend up later in NY if he'll be able to take me to JFK or EWR on March 24 pending on weather. What slide film do you usually shoot? I think I'll try Fuji Sensia or Provia while I'm in New York.

Yea, it's fun to jetski on the Potomac near National Airport. But I do not own one nor either my parents. I wish we had one tho. But one of my dad's friend has one. But a few times we just rent one and basically ride all day on a lake or a river. This summer I'm planning on renting a sailboat on the Potomac River and take pictures on the river. That would be nice.
talk to you later.

Kevin/DCA


User currently offlineAirNikon From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 290 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3721 times:

What is Kodachrome Elite 100? Michael, I'm surprised you didn't catch that (albeit irrelevant here).

A Minolta slide scanner will make the slightest dark slide even darker. I use a Minolta Scan Speed, and there are many slides of mine that are simply unscannable, as even Photoshop 6 cannot extract the shadow detail that was dropped to begin with during the scan.

If the slides looked dark to start with, that makes the scanning process that much more difficult, especially with a Minolta film scanner.

Keep trying!



Don't get married, don't have kids, and you will have more money than you know what to do with...
User currently offlineGocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4346 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3713 times:

AirNikon, whoops I didn't catch that neither did Mike, maybe he has.
Film: Kodak Elite Chrome 100

Kevin/DCA


User currently offlineUSAir_757 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 996 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3712 times:

My advice is purchase Vuescan from http://www.hamrick.com, and screw the minolta software. Check some older posts for info about it.


Regards,
C. Wassell



-Cullen Wassell @ MLI | Pentax K5 + DA18-55WR + Sigma 70-300 DL Macro Super
User currently offlineJderden777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1755 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3708 times:

i don't believe that it was the scanner's fault for this dark picture...i have looked at all of kevin's slides from the roll and they are all dark, some of them i can barely even tell what it is when i held them up to a fluorescent (white) light bulb. the shots were good, and i love his work, but they were severely underexposed. he used ASA 100 speed film so i am not sure what caused the harsh grain either. i had this problem once with my sigma 70-300mm lens, which is practically the same lens as the quantaray. the autofocus was messed up, and the shots came out EXACTLY like those of kevin's. i'm not blaming the lens, but perhaps it could be the same thing.
anyway...i'm sorry kevin that i wasn't of much help to you...
and if anybody thinks its the scanner..check out some of my pics from MIA...they were kinda dark but came out decent...

peace
jonathan d.



"my soul is in the sky" - shakespeare
User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3705 times:

Kodachrome Elite 100, hmmm? Guess I missed that. I saw the Elite and that's all I saw. Didn't catch the Kodachrome part.

Kevin--I use Kodachrome 64. If you're going to try out the Fuji, I'd probably suggest Provia 100F. Well, from Jonathan's post, looks like the slides were underexposed. I would suggest bracketing a few shots and see what settings work best. The N65 is a new body, so unless you have a bad example, the metering should be able to properly expose any film. I'll have to take a look at a few of those slides, hopefully I'll be free that day. Bring some slides just in case.

Michael

BTW-I used to do a lot of jetskiing (before the wife and kids). That's why I asked. I owned a Kawasaki 750sx and miss it on those nice summer days.


User currently offlineHenryjr From Canada, joined May 2000, 98 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3704 times:

Yep, I think you are talking about:


"Kodak Elite Chrome ISO 100"



BTW great reviews of slide films at this site:

http://www.photographyreview.com/reviews/slide_film/

Henry Jr Godding


User currently offlineGocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4346 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3665 times:

Mike,

What do you think? Do you think it's the lense? Jonathan suggested me to take it to a shop to get it inspected, whaddya think?

Kevin/DCA


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