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Why Is This A Bad Motive?  
User currently offlineKjBersas From Norway, joined Jul 1999, 62 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3784 times:

This one was rejected for low esthetics (badmotiv).

http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=KAB_IMG_0673.jpg

I think it's a rather clean motive, but it would be nice to hear from others with different view than my own eyes.




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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3758 times:

I think its because its a shot at the gate, I think to get accepted they have to be of very good quality or of a rare subject, as Johan isn't too keen on gate shots. Yours isn't so bad because there aren't many ramp lice, doors open etc.

Its borderline, IMO.

Cheers

Dan


User currently offlineJT8D From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 170 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3713 times:

badmotiv??

It looks good to me, but then again so did several other shots I've had rejected in the past 24hrs, (a new record for me)

I am at a loss to explain the screening standards at the moment. Will just have to press on and eliminate several more I had considered uploading today; perhaps try again in a few weeks.

Graham






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User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3509 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3693 times:

Nice shot. Perhaps you could downsize it to 1024 pixels to improve quality.

Daniel  Smile


User currently offlineSlamclick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3585 times:

Badmotiv? Not so sure. Unless the screeners are spring-loaded to reject gate shots. I like this one for a good look at an airline and airport I don't see every day.

If I had a criticism it would be this. It's just too bad the sun didn't come out full-bright just long enough to take the shot. The combination of high latitude and overcast makes the light rather flat. Just something you have to deal with when shooting in such conditions.



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User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3556 times:

Maybe it's the vehicle that you cropped/cut out at the bottom left corner. Everything else is just fine.
I recently uploaded a night shot which has a vehicle cut just like you do on your picture. I wonder on the screening results...



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User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3522 times:

Beats me. It's a good shot, and it's my wallpaper now  Smile



Cheers


User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3490 times:

Could it be because part of the wing is cut off and it's unlevel?

Other then that, looks good  Smile



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User currently offlineCicadajet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3451 times:

Not a bad image at all Kj, as a lot of gate shots go, but simply not the sort of contribution A.net is seeking to acquire.

Have a look at the other examples of this registration in the database... (after 2000 anyway..)

-Tom


User currently offlinePaulinbna From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 1114 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3424 times:
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I think it is the Jet Way they don't like these kinds of shots here

Even though I like it




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User currently offlineCondor From Germany, joined Mar 2001, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3415 times:

Must have been mainly because of the Jet Way together with the light conditions. Try to catch the planes when the Jet Way is removed (during arrival or prior to push-back).

Anyway a nice picture even it´s not meeting A.net standards to 100%.

Keep your shots comin´.

Oliver


User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 64
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3407 times:
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Hi all

Would have been nice if Kjell revisited the thread for acknowledging the comments posted.

Please use the appeal function if you wish.

Regards

Gary Watt


User currently offlineKjBersas From Norway, joined Jul 1999, 62 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3381 times:

All of you, thanks for your comments and evaluation. I agree with you mostly, that this motive is very common in the database. I could just not quite understand the bad estethics message... And by the way, this was accepted:

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Photo © Kjell Arild Bersås



After all, the picture of the 737-700 is not "incredible" good... Just average i think.

Happy new year to you all



[Edited 2004-01-07 17:24:08]


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User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3355 times:

Well i must say i realy like the shot. I think there's nothing worse than a picture of an aircraft just landing (backdrop sky) or a taxi shot (backdrop grass) with nothing else. Just a plane......

I much prefere this type of shoot with all the action going on around the plane.

LHRSIMON



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User currently offlineNudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3250 times:

What I learned out the many rejections...might be that it's like an all white shot. I mean it's a great motive, good quality, looks fine to me, but having an almost entirely white fuselage on white snow with a grey sky and grey-white background...

The second shot You posted was different, as it showed more "life" in the sense of the all red nose and the clean ground, more colorful...

But still a good one though!



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User currently offlineTWISTEDWHISPER From Sweden, joined Aug 2003, 711 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3246 times:

Kejll,

I like it a lot... I think that the reject reasons may sound a little harsh, that is NOT a bad motive. Maybe they (the screeners) needs to be more selective nowdays because the pictures takes a lot of disk space, I don't know.. Wait a minute! Don't I recognize this view? I never been to Trondheim... AHA! The Heros of Telemark! The movie with Kirk Dogulas from the mid 1960's...

Seriously, photographing in Norway is very rewarding, be it airplanes, landing strips or nature motives. And after viewing some 200 of your previously uploaded pictures, I must say this: You can do much much better than the one that was rejected. I've seen it. Look here:

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Photo © Kjell Arild Bersås
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Photo © Kjell Arild Bersås



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Photo © Kjell Arild Bersås
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Photo © Kjell Arild Bersås



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Photo © Kjell Arild Bersås
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Photo © Kjell Arild Bersås


And my favorite (because of it's livery Wink/being sarcastic) :

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Photo © Kjell Arild Bersås



Looking forward to more beautiful pictures from You!



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User currently offlineAsgeirs From Iceland, joined May 2001, 516 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3203 times:

Hmm, I can't see the reason for the badmotiv verdict. The contrast is good even though both the aircraft and the background are pretty white so in my opinion it should have been accepted.

By the way, didn't Braathens go down under a few years back or did I miss something?



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User currently offlineKjBersas From Norway, joined Jul 1999, 62 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3151 times:

Twistedwhisper, Telemark is a tiny bit farther south, but I guess it looks almost the same  Big grin - And i'm not sure if all of those pictures are so beatiful, some of them are partly badly scanned, and taken with lousy equipment, but thanks for your compliments  Smile It's getting better all the time - By the way (hope i'm not stoned for mentioning) most of my pictures are at airpics.com, just do a search for my name.

Asgeirs, Braathens probably would have gone under if not Scandinavian (SAS) bought the whole thing. They are a part of the SAS group now, but luckily under their own name... We'll just see how long that lasts.

Have a nice weekend everyone

Kjell Arild



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